Author Topic: POLL: 79 PERCENT OF AMERICANS THINK BORDER IS IN ‘CRISIS’ OR IS A ‘PROBLEM’  (Read 827 times)

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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?

Whether he is aa great negotiator or not is irrelevant if only one side is coming to the table.

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Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala

It doesn't matter where they are coming from or US guilt for whatever the NYT is going on about. It is about knowing who is coming into the country and their intentions. The only way to do that is to have them come through specifics designated points and if the government will not keep the border secured perhaps the only answer is a physical wall.


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Dims who are not in line with the leadership, say a wall is fine with them.
You know they want to get reelected. :biggrin:

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.
““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

“Certainly you need barriers and we support barriers,” Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) added.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and Jerry Nadler (D-NY)–the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee–said they would support fencing and barriers where necessary along the border.

Senate Minority Whip Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) says he believes there will be a new barrier along the border in the future:

Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA) says Democrats support a barrier including a fence. “Democrats have repeatedly said that we will support border security, we will support all of its elements including fences,” Garamendi said.

Rep. Katherine Clark (D-MA), the Vice Chair of the Democrat conference, says that the border would benefit from additional barriers. “You know, I think there are parts of the border that would benefit from repairing fencing and other barricades that already exist there,” she told MSNBC.

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

Video for all at:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/democrats-crack-on-the-wall/
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Dims who are not in line with the leadership, say a wall is fine with them.
You know they want to get reelected. :biggrin:

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.
““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

“Certainly you need barriers and we support barriers,” Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD) added.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and Jerry Nadler (D-NY)–the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee–said they would support fencing and barriers where necessary along the border.

Senate Minority Whip Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) says he believes there will be a new barrier along the border in the future:

Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA) says Democrats support a barrier including a fence. “Democrats have repeatedly said that we will support border security, we will support all of its elements including fences,” Garamendi said.

Rep. Katherine Clark (D-MA), the Vice Chair of the Democrat conference, says that the border would benefit from additional barriers. “You know, I think there are parts of the border that would benefit from repairing fencing and other barricades that already exist there,” she told MSNBC.

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

Video for all at:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/10/democrats-crack-on-the-wall/

Paychecks are due and their congressional phones must be melting.


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Paychecks are due and their congressional phones must be melting.
Funny isn't it? Here, the media tried like hell to blame Trump for the shutdown he said he'd own.  :lol:
Yet 70% of the country believe there is a problem at the border, so they see the Dims as the cause of the crisis at the border.
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My reply the the Hollyweird Reporter, and yeah, bring it on libs, I'll be waiting.

Native Californian here, of 60+ years.
Look out America, this is what the "Progressives " have planned for the rest of the country.
Note: See that barrier/Wall? See how well it works keeping the trash out?
Made the connection yet?



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I come here to hear reasoned discussion about issues like this. I do not agree with everything written here and I think that should be the experience of everyone.  But these Trolls that come here, probably because they are paid,  and do nothing more than write what the Dem party puts out.  That party says things that any rational human being knows is pure BS or seeking an emotional response.  So Trump said Mexico would pay for it,  as if that is the first promise by a politician that has not come true.  Go down the list and it is just nonsense that you have to be of the mind set that it is true no matter how irrational.  Nancy sits behind walls at her house while saying it is immoral and sends the wrong message. At the same time her party is in favor of abortion at any time. 

I wish the press was at least a little bit honest and asked the dems how they would keep illegals out.  A drone is going to work LOL>  :lol: Ask if they think prison walls or the walls around their house is immoral.   Ask how they know could know the character of people who sneak into the country that we do not know who they are.  I really like how they categorize people who get in without being caught and presume that they are all good and not at the very least the same mix of good and bad that get caught.  Ask they why they do not propose a law making it legal to walk across the border. 

I think realistically this problem is both parties in congress not passing laws that would address all those problems that make it so attractive to sneak into the USA.  Have it that a baby born in the US is only a citizen if it is born of a US citizen,  Those who get caught get sent back, those seeking asylum wait out side of the country and if a country like mexico offers them asylum and they refuse they are immediately ineligible for asylum in the US.   Those who employ illegals get fined severely or jailed.  There are lots of legitimate ways to deter them coming in illegally and they need to act.  Oh I still think we need to protect the border because drug dealers and sex traffickers have motivation no mater what the laws are.   
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CNN goes out looking for a story on Trump's Wall from a border state with a news network. The news station give CNN the truth of the matter and CNN doesn't like what they had to say and decides not to run with the truth of the story they are seeking. In return the news network informs their viewers on CNN not reporting the truth....... :lol:

I love it when CNN steps on their gonads because it looks very painful but funny.

CNN Confirms KUSI Report About Border Wall Blow-Off

CNN has finally responded to the exploding scandal surrounding the far-left cable news channel’s revealing “border wall” interaction with San Diego TV station KUSI this week.

As my colleague Robert Kraychik reporter earlier, KUSI reports that the anti-Trump outlet contacted them looking for someone to come on the air and report about Trump’s border wall. CNN claimed it was looking for a local perspective on the issue.

According to KUSI, though, once CNN discovered that KUSI’s past reports look positively on the effectiveness of the local border wall, CNN ran away and wanted no part of that narrative.

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https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/01/11/nolte-cnn-confirms-kusi-report-about-border-wall-blow-off/
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My reply the the Hollyweird Reporter, and yeah, bring it on libs, I'll be waiting.

Native Californian here, of 60+ years.
Look out America, this is what the "Progressives " have planned for the rest of the country.
Note: See that barrier/Wall? See how well it works keeping the trash out?
Made the connection yet?



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Walls tend to show the left's NIMBY hypocrisy.


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Walls tend to show the left's NIMBY hypocrisy.
I set off a firestorm with my tweet exposing the lefts hypocrisy in a pic that was supposed to show how the homeless needed more tax dollars to combat the problem.
I love how the left leaves themselves wide open. :biggrin:
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Obama's man posted this on the border in 2010.



John Cardillo

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 The same Democrats that tell you there’s no crisis on the border had Obama’s Bureau of Land Management post this sign in Arizona in 2010.



https://twitchy.com/jacobb-38/2019/01/13/pretty-weird-for-obamas-bureau-of-land-management-to-put-this-sign-out-for-just-a-manufactured-crisis/
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