Author Topic: POLL: 79 PERCENT OF AMERICANS THINK BORDER IS IN ‘CRISIS’ OR IS A ‘PROBLEM’  (Read 1487 times)

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Any bets on when Trump calls for a National Emergency? I'm thinking possibly Friday.

A vast majority of American voters believe that the United States is facing a “crisis” or a “problem” on the southern border, according to a new poll by Politico and Morning Consult.

While less than half of those surveyed (42 percent) agree with President Donald Trump’s assertion that the border is in “crisis,” another 37 percent concede that there is a “problem” — meaning 79 percent of voters believe the situation at the border is a serious Only 12 percent of voters polled said that the situation at the border is neither a crisis nor a problem.

According to data from Customs and Border Protection (CBP), an average of nearly 2,000 immigrants are apprehended at the border each day attempting to cross illegally into the United States.

The poll, which was conducted January 4-6 during the second week of the partial government shutdown, also found that 44 percent of respondents support a border wall.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/09/politico-poll-border-crisis-problem-majority-americans-agree/
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It's so true. The left and the media just can't get passed the semantics. Forget crisis.  Forget all the buzz words. Let's just say "problem". Are there thousands of  undocumented people entering the country every year? Yes. That's a problem.  Are there thousands of illegal aliens in the US committing crimes? Yes. That's a problem. Are there thousand stuck at the US border living like OWS circa 2011? Yes.  That's a problem.
Yeah we have a problem and Trump is the only president in recent memory to actually try and address it. Right or wrong on strategy he's trying. He's dragged the GOP kicking and screaming along with him and the democrats have just become the enemy of the American people.


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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala


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It's so true. The left and the media just can't get passed the semantics. Forget crisis.  Forget all the buzz words. Let's just say "problem". Are there thousands of  undocumented people entering the country every year? Yes. That's a problem.  Are there thousands of illegal aliens in the US committing crimes? Yes. That's a problem. Are there thousand stuck at the US border living like OWS circa 2011? Yes.  That's a problem.
Yeah we have a problem and Trump is the only president in recent memory to actually try and address it. Right or wrong on strategy he's trying. He's dragged the GOP kicking and screaming along with him and the democrats have just become the enemy of the American people.
Spot on Boo! Neither party was ever going to do a damn thing to fix it, because to them it wasn't an issue. How he ever got the RINO to come along is beyond me, but he did it and that say's it all.
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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala

So you are agreeing all the folks trying to enter the US is not a problem? Ever consider one of the reasons that the number of illegals entering the US is down is because the Border Patrol has been given the authority to do their job?

The American people are not buying the democrat argument there is no border crisis.
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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala
Wow, I'm impressed, you managed to pull in every talking point in one paragraph. Problem is, you have no idea what any of that entails.
The GOP has been fighting the base over the border since WWII when Congress created the Bracero program, an understandable fix in the day, but since that day the GOP has been fighting for their corporate constituency because the voting base cut off funding of the party over the issue, so the GOP said screw the voter, we'll do what makes us money, because we'll make the Dim party out to be a worse choice than we are, so we get their vote anyway.
Take my word for it, the base despises the GOP.
AS to Trump and the Wall, he has the DNC right where he wants them, in the corner whimpering like children. They have nowhere to run, they not only own the shutdown, but 90% of the nation thinks there's a border problem as well.
In other words, as Boo put it, Trump drug the GOP kicking and  screaming to support his plan and now has a majority support of the nation backing his plan, and you don't see negotiations under way?
Oh, that's because your side is on the losing side.
FWIW, there will be a border barrier of some sort, and regardless of who pays, the people will be glad when this BS is over.

How is it you don't see the big picture here? Both party's have been playing the people against one another while using the poor illegal as clay pigeons in their match of trap-shoot. Neither party gives a damn about the human equation.
Just a few years ago, Obama and the entire DNC leadership was demanding a barrier along the border, and suddenly they're not? Trump managed to wrestle the issue away from both party's and give it to the people, and at first neither party wanted any part of it, but fast forward to today and the border is front and center, you know why? Because Trump stole the narrative and refuses to release his death-grip on the issue until the problem is solved.
The GOP was smart enough to recognize they were not going to win this time and conceded to Trump, while the Dims have stupidly taken up the position of opposition to the will of the people, and you don't see a masterful negotiator making this happen?

Trump will declare a national Emergency and he will have the blessing of the voter that wasn't so stupid as to fall for the lies of leftists in both party's.
Don't run from my post, what I told you is the truth and a barrier is coming very soon. How is it you don't want this issue settled?


MOMENTS AGO: President Trump says he may still declare a national emergency to build a border wall:

“I have the absolute right if I want. My threshold will be if I can’t make a deal with people that are unreasonable”
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Trump should wait until there is a articulate instance, such as the next caravan otherwise the Leftists like MidCan here are going to say "what Crisis exists now that didn't exist back a few months when the caravans were trying to get in and Trump gassed them" or some crap like that.

The next caravan breach attempt would be articuable proof that ORGANIZED and concerted effort is being made to flood our country with illegals and psuedo refugee's who are abusing the system with their own MANUFACTURED CRISIS ie refugee status.
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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala

Yeah thats the leftist attitude, all the worlds problems stem from America because America "Interferred" with Guatemala or Nicaragua 100 or so years ago or Mexico back in 1846 or whenever and kept them from becoming a world power now its payback time.  So what you are insinuating is we have no "right" of Sovreingty because of real or imagined actions in the past and any transgression of our duly enacted laws our safety and well being must be ignored to make amends? Is that it?

What happened to Japan?  We nuked and fire bombed that place, yet the Japanese (The most racist and Homogenous society on earth) recovered and became A world power in business and trade, despite our occupation of the place which continues to this day.

Do yourself a favor, get rid of the group think 'America Bad' mentality.  If anything the one world one Govt vision you people have has just had the rug jerked out from under it, Europe is starting to awaken and follow our lead and we are going to exercise our sovreingty one way or another.

That begins with a safe, secure and strong border

 
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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala

One more point.
If it was a crisis then,, why is it not now?


The White House
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release June 30, 2014
Remarks by the President on Border Security and Immigration Reform
Rose Garden

3:04 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT:  Good afternoon, everybody.  One year ago this month, senators of both parties –- with support from the business, labor, law enforcement, faith communities –- came together to pass a commonsense immigration bill.

Independent experts said that bill would strengthen our borders, grow our economy, shrink our deficits.  As we speak, there are enough Republicans and Democrats in the House to pass an immigration bill today.  I would sign it into law today, and Washington would solve a problem in a bipartisan way.

But for more than a year, Republicans in the House of Representatives have refused to allow an up-or-down vote on that Senate bill or any legislation to fix our broken immigration system.  And I held off on pressuring them for a long time to give Speaker Boehner the space he needed to get his fellow Republicans on board.

Meanwhile, here’s what a year of obstruction has meant.  It has meant fewer resources to strengthen our borders.  It’s meant more businesses free to game the system by hiring undocumented workers, which punishes businesses that play by the rules, and drives down wages for hardworking Americans.  It’s meant lost talent when the best and brightest from around the world come to study here but are forced to leave and then compete against our businesses and our workers.  It’s meant no chance for 11 million immigrants to come out of the shadows and earn their citizenship if they pay a penalty and pass a background check, pay their fair share of taxes, learn English, and go to the back of the line.  It’s meant the heartbreak of separated families.

That’s what this obstruction has meant over the past year.  That’s what the Senate bill would fix if the House allowed it to go to a vote.

Our country and our economy would be stronger today if House Republicans had allowed a simple yes-or-no vote on this bill or, for that matter, any bill.  They’d be following the will of the majority of the American people who support reform.  Instead, they’ve proven again and again that they’re unwilling to stand up to the tea party in order to do what’s best for the country.  And the worst part about it is a bunch of them know better.

We now have an actual humanitarian crisis on the border that only underscores the need to drop the politics and fix our immigration system once and for all.  In recent weeks, we’ve seen a surge of unaccompanied children arrive at the border, brought here and to other countries by smugglers and traffickers.

The journey is unbelievably dangerous for these kids.  The children who are fortunate enough to survive it will be taken care of while they go through the legal process, but in most cases that process will lead to them being sent back home.  I’ve sent a clear message to parents in these countries not to put their kids through this.  I recently sent Vice President Biden to meet with Central American leaders and find ways to address the root causes of this crisis.  Secretary Kerry will also be meeting with those leaders again tomorrow. 

 https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/30/remarks-president-border-security-and-immigration-reform
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Americans are tired of the left and their destructive policies on immigration. This entire scheme by Nancy and Chuck is a disgrace to the country. The people have spoken!!


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While I don't feel this is the best way to go about it I do recognize that is is one of his only option left. I can already here the Dems crying about this, but what do they expect? When you stone wall Trump and give zero leeway in terms of a compromise or even an iota of potentially working with him. Absolute garbage on behalf of the dems

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While I don't feel this is the best way to go about it I do recognize that is is one of his only option left. I can already here the Dems crying about this, but what do they expect? When you stone wall Trump and give zero leeway in terms of a compromise or even an iota of potentially working with him. Absolute garbage on behalf of the dems
Yep, the Dims only have themselves to blame. Trump offered to open the govt if Nancy would promise to address the border after it's open, and she said "NO"!
This proves the Dims are not open to negotiating, so, Trump is left with one option. Build the Wall and open govt. None of this required the approval of the leftists.
Crime will fall, drug smuggling will be cut by 90%, all within a short time, proving the wall was an absolute necessity.
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Trump was supposed to be a great negotiator,  what happened?  The republicans controlled the house and senate the past two years and  did nothing but talk about the wall.  Why the wall action now?  Is it simply a talking point to keep his base happy?  And wasn't Mexico going to pay for the wall?  And every statistic tell us immigration from Mexico is down as now they make lots of stuff Americans buy. But Guatemalans are another issue and a place America has interfered in the past.  And who is that is buying the drugs that make the drug cartels rich and violent?  It ain't Guatemalans.  This stuff is complicated and our current administration appears unable to make sense of it. History can be a tough topic.

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala

Your boy king Jim Acosta just admitted President Trump steel wall is working. Wait until President Trump gets a hold of this news. You're going to be screaming aimlessly into the sky....WHY, WHY, WHY.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cnns-jim-acosta-mocked-for-accidently-proving-that-border-walls-work
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