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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: boxlock on December 07, 2012, 09:56:14 AM

Title: Syira
Post by: boxlock on December 07, 2012, 09:56:14 AM
Syria is, or at least would have the world believe that they are ready to use chemical weapons on the good folks in that country. Barry Boy has said there would be consequences if they do so.
My question is just exactly what kind of consequences are Barry and his horde ready to use, squirt guns with nasty red ink or something more severe? My money is on not much happening if they proceed.
What say you folks?
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Solar on December 07, 2012, 10:31:55 AM
Is it our responsibility to respond?
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: boxlock on December 07, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
That is precisely my question, is Syria our problem and if so what would be an appropriate response to such actions?
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: kramarat on December 07, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
The US response and policy decisions in things like Syria, is like dealing with the keystone cops. It's one monumental blunder after another. Unfortunately, people die, and the world becomes a much more dangerous place.

I believe that this is what Obama's threats pertain to. He will continue to arm Al Qaeda, through the Muslim Brotherhood, to the point that they will crush the Syrian leadership..........

Direct intervention is unlikely.

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/obama-considering-directly-arming-syrian-al-qaeda/ (http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/obama-considering-directly-arming-syrian-al-qaeda/)
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Solar on December 07, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
Quote from: boxlock on December 07, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
That is precisely my question, is Syria our problem and if so what would be an appropriate response to such actions?
I don't believe he would use a WMD that is viewed by the rest of the world as a war crime.
I believe it is the threat of a man that knows time is running out.
The next story to break will be Assad fleeing to Venezuela Libya etc...
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: kramarat on December 07, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 07, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
I don't believe he would use a WMD that is viewed by the rest of the world as a war crime.
I believe it is the threat of a man that knows time is running out.
The next story to break will be Assad fleeing to Venezuela Libya etc...

I don't think he'll use them either. Apparently he has moved them though.

Who knows? I think the entire mideast is unraveling a lot worse than what we're being told.
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Yawn on December 07, 2012, 01:15:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 07, 2012, 10:31:55 AM
Is it our responsibility to respond?



Not with troops, but I'm siding with Assad just like I sided with Mubarak. We need to stand with the side that promotes OUR interests. Both leaders protected the minority Christian and Jewish rights in their countries.  Those taking over are ISLAMIC RADICALS who will impose Sharia Law and drive out all opposition.  In that world, THEY are the greater enemy.  Neither nation is capable of a Constitutionally limited REPUBLIC that protects the rights of all.   They only understand mob rule--the larger mob steps on the rights of the smaller mob.

If he uses these weapons (which came from IRAQ) I would understand. ANY nation (including the USA) would use these weapons on forces determined to take over through violence.  He's in a war for his nation against some really bad people determined to establish a Caliphate in the region.
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: BILLY Defiant on December 07, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
 :popcorn:

I find this whole situation with Syria, WMD, Obamao and the UN proto typical of Leftist hypocracy.

Obamao and the Dems jumped up an down with protracted screams over "Iraq" and "Bush" and US war mongering Pubs and WMD's or the lack thereof.....Never Mind the HISTORY of the situation.

Now I find it so damn Ironic that this administration which is doing more to involve us in wars all over the Middle east, Lybia, Egypt and Yemen etc
is taking such a stance on Syria and the Use of WMD's which have a high probability of coming from Iraq in the first place.

If you look at history you will find that Dems did more to set the stage and involve us in wars than any republican ever did yet they are the first ones to scream "war monger" when it comes to conservatives. They carry out stupid policies and make enemies out of people who aren't our enemies....over this 'Human rights' issue.

Did us a lot of good in Egypt and Lybia didn't it?

If you remember, Human rights is what started the whole mess in Iraq.

Saddam was not a threat to the US, we made him into one and when you have a ME demon like that on your case you better kill him.   

Other than continue to give these fishy "freedom fighter" groups money weapons and moral support I doubt Obamao is gonna do anything. But if you start in on Assad, you better kill him...other wise you got another Saddam on your hands that the American people will have to pay in blood for likely somewhere down the road.

Billy
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Yawn on December 07, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
Tammy Bruce (http://www.talkstreamlive.com/program/tammy_bruce/), my favorite Conservative/Lesbian-American ( :laugh:), was talking about the scary similarities between the early 1930s and today.  America was weakened from WWI and in a depression and had a far left Demonrat. Because the evil world saw America's weakened condition, the evil saw and took their opportunity to unleash their destruction on the world. Japan invaded China and Germany and Italy began to do their evil in their part of the world and America adopted a hands-off policy.

Who doesn't recognize the apologetic Obama has done nothing but embolden the "axis of evil" today.  Just imagine what the world will be like if we go into a Depression with millions more unemployed and a gutted military!  Thank God so many went on a gun buying spree.  If we're to be saved, it'll be the citizen militia.
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Darth Fife on December 07, 2012, 04:20:27 PM
There is nothing in Syria that is worth one drop of American blood.

Screw 'em!
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: BILLY Defiant on December 07, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 07, 2012, 04:20:27 PM
There is nothing in Syria that is worth one drop of American blood.

Screw 'em!

Agreed, let them fight it out...the less of those people on either side
makes for a better world.


Billy
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Charliemyboy on December 08, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
Quote from: Solar on December 07, 2012, 10:31:55 AM
Is it our responsibility to respond?

NO!
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Solar on December 08, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on December 08, 2012, 10:08:25 AM
NO!
Bingo!!!
I say, lets pull the Hell out of the M/E and let them kill each other off...
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Trevor Laky on December 08, 2012, 10:50:13 AM
How can we in the US be so hypocritical we jump on the support for the Rebels in Egypt but the civilians in Syria are being murdered by the thousands and we dont do anything.  Why are we picking and choosing which civilians from which countries deserve to live and die.  If you're going to come down with the hammer come down with it equally.
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Yawn on December 08, 2012, 11:11:00 AM
Quote from: Trevor Laky on December 08, 2012, 10:50:13 AM
How can we in the US be so hypocritical we jump on the support for the Rebels in Egypt but the civilians in Syria are being murdered by the thousands and we dont do anything.  Why are we picking and choosing which civilians from which countries deserve to live and die.  If you're going to come down with the hammer come down with it equally.

"we"??  Not everybody supported the "revolutionaries."  I've been consistent.  I support both leaders of both nations (Mubarak and Assad).  These "freedom fighters" are not out the create an American style republic.  It is a radical Islamic takeover of any nation in the ME that these groups perceive to be weak.

America's foreign policy, at least until recently, has been to take the position of whatever  is in the best interest of the USA.  An Iranian style revolution, masquerading as "democracy" is not in anybody's best interest.
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: BILLY Defiant on December 08, 2012, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Trevor Laky on December 08, 2012, 10:50:13 AM
How can we in the US be so hypocritical we jump on the support for the Rebels in Egypt but the civilians in Syria are being murdered by the thousands and we dont do anything.  Why are we picking and choosing which civilians from which countries deserve to live and die.  If you're going to come down with the hammer come down with it equally.

Why do we give a rats ass what happens in Syria, Egypt Lybia and throw Billions of dollars at these ungrateful barbarians when AMERICAN citizens on Long Island and other parts of New York and New Jersey can't get emergency aide from those Jerk offs in FEMA?


Billy
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: kramarat on December 08, 2012, 07:17:57 PM
Quote from: BILLY Defiant on December 08, 2012, 06:56:13 PM
Why do we give a rats ass what happens in Syria, Egypt Lybia and throw Billions of dollars at these ungrateful barbarians when AMERICAN citizens on Long Island and other parts of New York and New Jersey can't get emergency aide from those Jerk offs in FEMA?


Billy

Really? Last thing I saw, was Chis Christie on tv telling the world what an awesome response Obama orchestrated...........a few days before the election. Not a word since.

Huh. I thought everything was fixed.

Go figure. :confused:
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Darth Fife on December 08, 2012, 07:24:37 PM
Quote from: kramarat on December 08, 2012, 07:17:57 PM
Really? Last thing I saw, was Chis Christie on tv telling the world what an awesome response Obama orchestrated...........a few days before the election. Not a word since.

Huh. I thought everything was fixed.

Go figure. :confused:

I never liked Christie. He talks a good game, but that is all. I can't believe that some in the Republican Party wanted him to run for president!
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Yawn on December 08, 2012, 07:35:59 PM
He was always with Obama on putting coal out of business and he believes in the fairy tale of global warming

Definitely a RINO--a tough talking RINO, but a RINO
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Chief Brett on December 10, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
The people of the Middle East will never have a successful "Democratic Republic" or any other kind of successful representative government.  They don't think like us, they do not treasure freedom in the same way that Americans do.  They are a subservient people, who are trained to be subservient through their culture and through their religion.  All they understand is the boot on their neck and they like it that way.  I agree that no Syrian is worth one drop of American blood nor one cent of American treasure. 
Title: Re: Syira
Post by: Darth Fife on December 11, 2012, 02:10:45 AM
Quote from: Chief Brett on December 10, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
The people of the Middle East will never have a successful "Democratic Republic" or any other kind of successful representative government.  They don't think like us, they do not treasure freedom in the same way that Americans do.  They are a subservient people, who are trained to be subservient through their culture and through their religion.  All they understand is the boot on their neck and they like it that way.  I agree that no Syrian is worth one drop of American blood nor one cent of American treasure.

This true and, mostly, is tied directly to their religion.

The word Islam means Submission.