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Title: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 15, 2018, 08:17:02 PM
Umm, for being black? These two guys were arrested for nothing more than waiting for a  friend.
I don't care who you are, that isn't illegal.
It'll take more than an apology to fix this mess.
Video at link. They were calm and cooperative.


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Overpriced liberal bean juice emporium Starbucks has a very serious public relations problem as it has managed to piss off a huge chunk of its customer base over an incident that went down in Philadelphia.

Two black men were sitting a Starbucks location without buying anything while “waiting for a friend” and at least one employee called the cops.

'It's racism at its ugliest level': National outrage and call for Starbucks boycott after two black men are arrested for trying to use restroom without buying anything
Two black men in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, were arrested Thursday
They were sitting in Starbucks waiting for their friend when the cops were called
The hashtag #BoycottStarbucks was trending Saturday after the incident
People called the moment 'racism at its ugliest level' in America
Starbucks CEO Kevin Johnson plans to fly to Philadelphia to apologize face-to-face with the two men who were arrested 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616937/Outraged-social-media-users-call-boycott-Starbucks-two-black-men-arrested.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 15, 2018, 08:34:31 PM
Ultra liberal socially awesome Starbucks did this? Must have been a NIMBY situation.

Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 15, 2018, 08:57:12 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html

Quote from: Police Commissioner says officers did 'nothing wrong'
In a statement on Facebook Live, Ross said that Starbucks employees called 911 to report a trespassing complaint. The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross said. Officers responded and asked the men three times "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross said. The men were taken to a police station and released when it became clear Starbucks didn't want to press charges. They did a service that they were called to do," Ross said of the officers. "And if you think about it logically, that if a business calls and they say that someone is here that I no longer wish to be in my business, (officers) now have a legal obligation to carry out their duties. And they did just that."

Sounds like the store wanted them removed. Regardless if they didn't want to press charges, they are trying to play innocent to protect their Liberal visage.

Solar: you should know better to believe video that doesn't show what happens prior to the incident.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2018, 09:29:21 PM
I hate Starbucks and I hope they get run out of business....BUT....sorry, I have to take their side. Two guys just hanging around....Waiting for a friend....yeah, what else were they doing?  Getting in the customers faces?  Intimidating the employee's, scaring off the customers? Business establisments, even the ones run by leftist assholes, have the right to eject people who are causing a disturbance or interfereing with business especially when they are NOT CUSTOMERS.  When the managers asks you to leave for ANY cause and you don't, that is indeed tresspassing. And YES that is illegal.

This is a big problem in EVERY inner city, especially when you got "Homeless" Bums, Junkies, wino's who come in, sit down don't buy anything and stink up the place, piss their pants, nod out, fall asleep on the table or hang around and annoy people. 

But Dear oh Dearie Me they are Black and we just can't have that, Black men, minorities of any sort and especially illegals get a pass. If this was two White guys who were hanging around doing the same thing, starbucks would be quacking about not tolerating racism or something
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: T Hunt on April 16, 2018, 04:50:39 AM
Dont the cops share any responsibility? I mean they dont just arrest anyone because they are told too by someone on the phone. They must have believed these 2 were doing something requiring detention, right?
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: supsalemgr on April 16, 2018, 05:26:32 AM
There is probably much more to this story than we know. There is a background that is not being reported and I do not know what it is.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 05:30:37 AM
I hate Starbucks and I hope they get run out of business....BUT....sorry, I have to take their side. Two guys just hanging around....Waiting for a friend....yeah, what else were they doing?  Getting in the customers faces?  Intimidating the employee's, scaring off the customers? Business establisments, even the ones run by leftist assholes, have the right to eject people who are causing a disturbance or interfereing with business especially when they are NOT CUSTOMERS.  When the managers asks you to leave for ANY cause and you don't, that is indeed tresspassing. And YES that is illegal.

This is a big problem in EVERY inner city, especially when you got "Homeless" Bums, Junkies, wino's who come in, sit down don't buy anything and stink up the place, piss their pants, nod out, fall asleep on the table or hang around and annoy people. 

But Dear oh Dearie Me they are Black and we just can't have that, Black men, minorities of any sort and especially illegals get a pass. If this was two White guys who were hanging around doing the same thing, starbucks would be quacking about not tolerating racism or something
According to a witness, they were just sitting, and in an establishment with a public lobby such as this, Starbucks completely screwed up because it's not as if they had waitresses or servers that come to the table like a regular sitdown restaurant.
I actually got one of these calls once and like this lobby, it was a gray area, Watch Commander looked it up, even called the DA's office.
Turns out, if they aren't making a nuisance or interfering with business/customers, they aren't breaking the law.
It could vary from city to city/State, but in Sac, I was told to inform the complainant they may be up for a discrimination suit.

If Starbucks had any sense at all, they'd have offered these gentlemen something on the house, instead of escalating the situation.
You know, offer a sample of one of their shitty foo foo chick whatever and videotape it for CYA purposes, but this move was purely boneheaded. because some fragile little libs had never interacted with a black man before.

"Why weren't these people on the plantation the Dim party built for them, why weren't they in da hood where they belong? "
"We as liberals have been building projects like zoos to house the people, keep them from having to seek work via food stamps, welfare.
"It's not our fault they turn it into a ghetto", why, why are they here? Call the Police!!!"

That's how this is going to play out on social media and rightly so.
Anyway, that's how I'm pushing it, the left deserves to have their disgusting elitist noses rubbed in their own racist shit.

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Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 16, 2018, 09:15:40 AM
[/b]According to a witness, they were just sitting, and in an establishment with a public lobby such as this,[/b] Starbucks completely screwed up because it's not as if they had waitresses or servers that come to the table like a regular sitdown restaurant.
I actually got one of these calls once and like this lobby, it was a gray area, Watch Commander looked it up, even called the DA's office.
Turns out, if they aren't making a nuisance or interfering with business/customers, they aren't breaking the law.
It could vary from city to city/State, but in Sac, I was told to inform the complainant they may be up for a discrimination suit.

If Starbucks had any sense at all, they'd have offered these gentlemen something on the house, instead of escalating the situation.
You know, offer a sample of one of their shitty foo foo chick whatever and videotape it for CYA purposes, but this move was purely boneheaded. because some fragile little libs had never interacted with a black man before.

"Why weren't these people on the plantation the Dim party built for them, why weren't they in da hood where they belong? "
"We as liberals have been building projects like zoos to house the people, keep them from having to seek work via food stamps, welfare.
"It's not our fault they turn it into a ghetto", why, why are they here? Call the Police!!!"

That's how this is going to play out on social media and rightly so.
Anyway, that's how I'm pushing it, the left deserves to have their disgusting elitist noses rubbed in their own racist shit.

(http://www.henrypayne.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/032015_StarbucksRace_COLOR.jpg)

Why no, a witness NEVER, EVER LIED for political, social, or personal reasons.

Aren't there still laws on the books that are "right to refuse service" that protect the business? Maybe not for "religious" reasons but for "safety" and/or "security" reasons?
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 09:22:34 AM
Why no, a witness NEVER, EVER LIED for political, social, or personal reasons.

Aren't there still laws on the books that are "right to refuse service" that protect the business? Maybe not for "religious" reasons but for "safety" and/or "security" reasons?
Sure, but they had to break the law first. There was no crime, there is no law that forces someone to purchase something while they wait for the rest of their party to show up.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: AndyJackson on April 16, 2018, 10:34:55 AM
I always thought that if you're on somebody else's property, and they ask you to leave, and you refuse, you get arrested.

No need to confuse or embellish with 1001 other tangents.  "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" is always fun, but let's stick with the core issue.

Cops are there to keep the peace.  If the cop just leaves and says "oh well, I guess we can't make anybody leave your property"....and THEN a fracas / bunch of injuries and assaults happen...... then you're blaming the cop for THAT.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 11:42:35 AM
I always thought that if you're on somebody else's property, and they ask you to leave, and you refuse, you get arrested.

No need to confuse or embellish with 1001 other tangents.  "Shoulda Coulda Woulda" is always fun, but let's stick with the core issue.

Cops are there to keep the peace.  If the cop just leaves and says "oh well, I guess we can't make anybody leave your property"....and THEN a fracas / bunch of injuries and assaults happen...... then you're blaming the cop for THAT.
The cops are just doing their job. All the responsibility lies with the complainant and in this case, Starbucks and possibly the employee will face a serious lawsuit. Which I guarantee you, Starbucks has already written out a check to make this go away...
Sure, you can have the police enforce the law, (varying from city to city), but now that the complainant refused to press charges, opens up a whole other can of worms. Question. What would a DA charge them with, in a case like this?
What the DA would look at is, can he prosecute, was there an injury, damages, disturbing the peace, loss of revenue? How would McDonald's deal with this?
Problem is, Starbucks pretends to be this bastion of Utopian inclusiveness then turns around and insults the black community, the last thing they wanted. And yes, truth is, this was about race, a scared little lib called the cops.

The only time I've ever seen a business uphold this rule, is where the homeless is concerned, vagrants, which in some communities, is still against the law.
I'm really playing Devil's advocate here because I want the left to own this shit, Shit they've been inflicting on the country for far too long.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: AndyJackson on April 16, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
The cops are just doing their job. All the responsibility lies with the complainant and in this case, Starbucks and possibly the employee will face a serious lawsuit. Which I guarantee you, Starbucks has already written out a check to make this go away...
Sure, you can have the police enforce the law, (varying from city to city), but now that the complainant refused to press charges, opens up a whole other can of worms. Question. What would a DA charge them with, in a case like this?
What the DA would look at is, can he prosecute, was there an injury, damages, disturbing the peace, loss of revenue? How would McDonald's deal with this?
Problem is, Starbucks pretends to be this bastion of Utopian inclusiveness then turns around and insults the black community, the last thing they wanted. And yes, truth is, this was about race, a scared little lib called the cops.

The only time I've ever seen a business uphold this rule, is where the homeless is concerned, vagrants, which in some communities, is still against the law.
I'm really playing Devil's advocate here because I want the left to own this shit, Shit they've been inflicting on the country for far too long.
Yeah, getting rid of the reeking bums who basically live in fast food places is the most obvious / consistent version;  I think that's the precedent.  If you don't want somebody in your business for a rational reason, like they're scaring (or disgusting) the customers away, as with the bums....... or they're taking up seats / tables with no plans to buy anything (these 2 guys), that the proprietor needs to make money from............ then it's just the call of the business owner.  He can give up profits to be nice to both groups, or he has the right to ask them to leave.  Has literally nothing to do with race, police, or anything else blamed in this case.

The police are just enforcing the law that says "you can't hang around on somebody else's property and refuse to leave".  That has no real gray area.

I think it was the DA that said "no crime", which really means "no crime that I feel like prosecuting".  Cops say there was a crime, hence the arrest.  DA's overrule and ignore the cops all the time, typically for selfish, lazy, or political reasons.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 03:06:31 PM
Yeah, getting rid of the reeking bums who basically live in fast food places is the most obvious / consistent version;  I think that's the precedent.  If you don't want somebody in your business for a rational reason, like they're scaring (or disgusting) the customers away, as with the bums....... or they're taking up seats / tables with no plans to buy anything (these 2 guys), that the proprietor needs to make money from............ then it's just the call of the business owner.  He can give up profits to be nice to both groups, or he has the right to ask them to leave.  Has literally nothing to do with race, police, or anything else blamed in this case.

The police are just enforcing the law that says "you can't hang around on somebody else's property and refuse to leave".  That has no real gray area.

I think it was the DA that said "no crime", which really means "no crime that I feel like prosecuting".  Cops say there was a crime, hence the arrest.  DA's overrule and ignore the cops all the time, typically for selfish, lazy, or political reasons.
Here ya go.

The two men had gone to the Starbucks to meet Andrew Yaffe, the white man who can be seen in the video questioning the police officers, according to Wimmer.

Yaffe could not immediately be reached for comment, but Wimmer told BuzzFeed News he is a friend of the two men. He runs a real estate development, investment, and management firm, and the men were meeting with him "to discuss potential residential and commercial real estate opportunities in Philadelphia," she said.

The two men had not ordered immediately upon arriving, as they were still waiting for Yaffe. While they waited for him, "a white female manager who was on duty at the time" asked them to leave, said Wimmer.

When they said they were just waiting for another person to arrive before ordering, she phoned the police, Wimmer said.

"How many times have we sat in Starbucks minding our own business, waiting for a friend to come, and then we order?" Wimmer said.

 
 
Twitter: @missydepino
When Yaffe arrived and found the two men being arrested, he called Wimmer, whom he is also friends with, she said.

The two men were arrested around 5:30 p.m., and were fingerprinted and photographed by police.

Police told Wimmer they had arrested the men for "defiant trespassing."

The District Attorney did not approve the charges, and the two men were released around 2:00 a.m. on Friday.

"Two young black men, who were simply waiting to be joined by a friend, were blatantly discriminated against based on their race," Wimmer said in a tweet. "Not only is this inexcusable, it's illegal."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/starbucks-arrest-viral-black-men-waiting-philadelphia?utm_term=.jhDKXgo67#.kqzR0PjbA
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: T Hunt on April 16, 2018, 05:47:26 PM
I wonder how come-uppons tastes?


Protesters march to various Starbucks cafes in Philadelphia following controversial arrests

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/16/protesters-march-to-various-starbucks-cafes-in-philadelphia-following-controversial-arrests.html
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 16, 2018, 05:49:32 PM
I assume the left are protesting outside this Starbucks.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 06:36:59 PM
I assume the left are protesting outside this Starbucks.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 16, 2018, 08:32:13 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Silly me. Hipsters can't protest hipsters. They like the darkies, just not in their shops.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 16, 2018, 09:32:08 PM
Silly me. Hipsters can't protest hipsters. They like the darkies, just not in their shops.
Tis true, libs are the worst of all racists, they don't believe black people will ever be on par with any race, which is why the Dim party went to great lengths to enslave them and keep them on their plantations, or rather, 'Projects'.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 04:50:05 AM
Tis true, libs are the worst of all racists, they don't believe black people will ever be on par with any race, which is why the Dim party went to great lengths to enslave them and keep them on their plantations, or rather, 'Projects'.


Plantations = you worked for a living.

Projects = you live off of others.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 05:12:24 AM

Plantations = you worked for a living.

Projects = you live off of others.

Plantations: Where you were forced to work and couldn't leave.

Projects: Where nice liberals gave you a place to stay, fed you, all on the understanding, you stayed there, you knew your place, and would never get uppity again.
How dare these two guys wander from da hood into this white establishment, why the ungrateful bastards, do they not know their place?

Oh sure, Conservatives did away with 'Colored only' signs, but the left never accepted the 14th Amendment when we forced them to sign it.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Mr King on April 17, 2018, 07:32:11 AM
If someone goes into a store but doesn't buy anything except to hang around and doesn't leave when told because they refused to purchase anything isn't that called loitering? It's against the law to loiter inside a store and I don't care what race you are.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: AndyJackson on April 17, 2018, 07:38:33 AM
If someone goes into a store but doesn't buy anything except to hang around and doesn't leave when told because they refused to purchase anything isn't that called loitering? It's against the law to loiter inside a store and I don't care what race you are.
On top of that, I believe it was outdoor, but a patio / porch space that the store still owns and expects to be used by paying customers.  For revenue.  To stay in business.

These dumbasses were just setting up a SJW stunt, and hoping for a payday.  You would hope the store would sue their asses off for libel, but probably not.  Liberal Starbucks probably won't be able to kiss their asses fast enough, and hand them money.  Just raise the cup of coffee by a nickel, to pay for it.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 08:22:03 AM
If someone goes into a store but doesn't buy anything except to hang around and doesn't leave when told because they refused to purchase anything isn't that called loitering? It's against the law to loiter inside a store and I don't care what race you are.
Define loitering. If the rules aren't being followed to the letter or definition of the law, then loitering is irrelevant, at which point it becomes discrimination.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: AndyJackson on April 17, 2018, 08:59:08 AM
I don't think it was loitering as much as it was trespassing, refusing an officer's orders / requests, and disorderly conduct.

Pick one, all very straightforward and non-nebulous.  People get arrested and convicted of these every day, all day.

Of course when a DA mixes in social engineering ordered up by the mayor or a SJW police chief, everything is negligible and negotiable.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 17, 2018, 01:13:22 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/starbucks-to-close-8000-us-stores-for-racial-bias-training/ar-AAvZ695?li=BBnb7Kz

Quote from: Starbucks to close 8,000 U.S. stores for racial-bias training
Starbucks Corp will close 8,000 company-owned U.S. cafes for the afternoon on May 29 to train nearly 175,000 on how to prevent racial discrimination in its stores.


Starbucks' roughly 6,000 licensed cafes will remain open. Starbucks said it would make training materials available to the employees of those stores, who are employed by the grocery stores or airports where they are located.

The announcement from world's biggest coffee company comes as it tries to cool tensions after the arrest of two black men at one of its Philadelphia cafes last week sparked accusations of racial profiling at the chain.

Protesters have called for a boycott of the company, in what has become the biggest public relations test yet for Chief Executive Kevin Johnson.

Johnson, a former technology executive, took the helm about a year ago and was already fighting to boost traffic to Starbucks amid intense competition from coffee sellers ranging from hipster cafes to fast-food chains and convenience stores.

I hope everybody switches to other coffee vendors.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 01:22:45 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/starbucks-to-close-8000-us-stores-for-racial-bias-training/ar-AAvZ695?li=BBnb7Kz

I hope everybody switches to other coffee vendors.


I see a lot of Dutch Boy coffee franchise pop up in the last 5 years in my area.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: AndyJackson on April 17, 2018, 03:05:23 PM

I see a lot of Dutch Boy coffee franchise pop up in the last 5 years in my area.
Is that the guy who keeps sticking his finger in some dyke ?  Nasty name for a food place !
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 03:16:20 PM
Is that the guy who keeps sticking his finger in some dyke ?  Nasty name for a food place !

More then one Dutch Boy.  LOL
(http://www.moretimetotravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/dutch-boy-icon.jpg)
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 03:45:36 PM
Is that the guy who keeps sticking his finger in some dyke ?  Nasty name for a food place !

There's nothing wrong with switching lesbians back to normal..

OK, I'm going now..
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: ConservativeInCT on April 17, 2018, 04:04:15 PM
Starbucks is a private establishment. They have the right to kick people out of their store if said customers are 'trespassing' if they want to call it that.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
Starbucks is a private establishment. They have the right to kick people out of their store if said customers are 'trespassing' if they want to call it that.

When does it become trespassing when your “waiting for a friend?”

People go into restaurant and wait for friends around noon all the time.  IF they ask me to leave I would not be back and the owner would get a phone call why!

Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 17, 2018, 06:09:41 PM
Starbucks is a private establishment. They have the right to kick people out of their store if said customers are 'trespassing' if they want to call it that.
I agree but with all their sanctimonious pontificating and lecturing about social issues this makes them hypocrites and douche bags.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 06:18:34 PM
When does it become trespassing when your “waiting for a friend?”

People go into restaurant and wait for friends around noon all the time.  IF they ask me to leave I would not be back and the owner would get a phone call why!
I can't even count all the times I've gone to a coffee shop/restaurant and sat down and waited for others to arrive before ordering.
It's just the way everyone does it, even in a restaurant they'll gladly seat you and allow you to wait for your friends before you order, even serve you water while you wait.
Those evil bastards should have kicked me out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 07:30:15 PM
I can't even count all the times I've gone to a coffee shop/restaurant and sat down and waited for others to arrive before ordering.
It's just the way everyone does it, even in a restaurant they'll gladly seat you and allow you to wait for your friends before you order, even serve you water while you wait.
Those evil bastards should have kicked me out. :biggrin:


LOL my server give me coffee. 
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 07:55:47 PM
OWNED!!! :rolleyes:

BREAKING: STARBUCKS TO CLOSE 8,000 STORES FOR RACIAL BIAS EDUCATION TRAINING

https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/breaking-starbucks-to-close-8000-stores-for-racial-bias-education-training/
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 17, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
OWNED!!! :rolleyes:

BREAKING: STARBUCKS TO CLOSE 8,000 STORES FOR RACIAL BIAS EDUCATION TRAINING

https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/breaking-starbucks-to-close-8000-stores-for-racial-bias-education-training/

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They have to close 8,000 stores and sacrifice tens of thousands of dollars so they can teach their employees to be nice to black people?
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 17, 2018, 08:25:08 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They have to close 8,000 stores and sacrifice tens of thousands of dollars so they can teach their employees to be nice to black people?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Boy, are they in an uphill battle trying to get these kids to unlearn a lifetime of leftist brainwashing/indoctrination...er...uimmm public education in the US..
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 17, 2018, 08:36:15 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

They have to close 8,000 stores and sacrifice tens of thousands of dollars so they can teach their employees to be nice to black people?

They will use it as a tax write off big time.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Wyatt5 on April 17, 2018, 09:21:39 PM
Let me start by saying that I rarely go to Starbucks, and then usually for hot chocolate---my Italian is not good enough to order coffee there.

The real question is do they usually allow people to wait for their friends before they order? Many McDonalds would ask you to leave, but it would not matter if you were the mayor or homeless or whatever your race.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2018, 04:58:53 AM
Let me start by saying that I rarely go to Starbucks, and then usually for hot chocolate---my Italian is not good enough to order coffee there.

The real question is do they usually allow people to wait for their friends before they order? Many McDonalds would ask you to leave, but it would not matter if you were the mayor or homeless or whatever your race.
Obviously, this policy varies from town to town, city to city, because out here in the West, this is never a problem, seriously.
But then again, I'm white, not that I'm saying there's a distinct difference, just saying that the left created a certain kind of perception and now they're victims of their own fucked up policies.
I'm saying there is no discrimination, just an implied discrimination, something these two guys smartly took advantage of, probably get a half mil each for a days work.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 18, 2018, 01:14:33 PM
Philadelphia Starbucks Customer: Supposedly Racist Manager 'Is An SJW Feminist Of The Highest Order'
Protestors demonstrate outside a Starbucks on April 15, 2018 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Mark Makela/Getty Images

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@BENSHAPIRO
April 17, 2018
On Tuesday, Starbucks announced a national day of retraining for all of its employees in the wake of a supposedly racist incident: a Philadelphia store manager named Holly calling the police on two black men for allegedly loitering, after refusing them access to the restroom since they had not bought anything. Holly, the media claimed, was obviously acting out of racial intent.

The same day as Starbucks’ announcement, a listener to my show emailed me from Philadelphia to talk about Holly. According to the listener, who regularly frequents the now-infamous Philadelphia Starbucks in question, “I don’t know what happened last week with the two guys. I wasn’t there. But I highly doubt that she saw the two men and decided to call the police based solely on the fact that they are black.”

Why not? According to this patron, “From my observations and interactions with her, I was actually under the impression that Holly is an SJW feminist of the highest order. Once I even overheard her scorn a male barista for not using the proper neutral pronouns with somebody. That's why this whole situation is so shocking to me! Even though I did not agree with her and all the SJW pins that adorn her beanie, I think calling her a racist all over the news and doxing her name, address, phone, family, etc. is disgusting.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29557/philadelphia-starbucks-customer-supposedly-racist-ben-shapiro?utm_source=sremail-ae&utm_medium=email&utm_content=041818-textversion&utm_campaign=textversion
Title: Black Conservative Comedian Trolls Starsucks
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2018, 02:27:19 PM
Goctha... :thumbsup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=218&v=qO-gJw8SVsg
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 19, 2018, 03:16:33 PM
The Liberal Lie~!!!!


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Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
OOPS! :lol:

WATCH: Police Chief Apologizes To Black Men Arrested At Starbucks

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29680/watch-police-chief-apologizes-black-men-arrested-james-barrett
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: zewazir on April 20, 2018, 04:53:50 PM
OOPS! :lol:

WATCH: Police Chief Apologizes To Black Men Arrested At Starbucks

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29680/watch-police-chief-apologizes-black-men-arrested-james-barrett
The police did nothing wrong. They were called in on a situation in which two men refused to leave an establishment after being asked to do so. That made the men, for whatever chickencrap reason, guilty of trespass, and the police were obligated to enforce the charges leveled against them by the establishment's manager.

In short - no apology was necessary - at least from the police.

OTOH, Starbuck's "You gotta buy one of our overpriced POS liquid candy drinks to take a leak." bullstuff policy owes them apology big time; regardless of skin color.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2018, 04:58:34 PM
The police did nothing wrong. They were called in on a situation in which two men refused to leave an establishment after being asked to do so. That made the men, for whatever chickencrap reason, guilty of trespass, and the police were obligated to enforce the charges leveled against them by the establishment's manager.

In short - no apology was necessary - at least from the police.

OTOH, Starbuck's "You gotta buy one of our overpriced POS liquid candy drinks to take a leak." bullstuff policy owes them apology big time; regardless of skin color.
Turns out, the cops were called two minutes after the Mgnr talked to them the first time.
I'd like to see the video from three HD cameras they're refusing to release.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: zewazir on April 20, 2018, 05:08:30 PM
Turns out, the cops were called two minutes after the Mgnr talked to them the first time.
I'd like to see the video from three HD cameras they're refusing to release.
Turns out. But did the responding officers know that?

Or were they told by the manager the gentlemen refused to leave, thus essentially filing a trespass complaint.

Wonder if "Holly" will be able to get a job shoving fries out a drive through window when this is all over? Hope so. I'd hate to have tax payers supporting the stupid witch the rest of her useless life.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 20, 2018, 05:53:47 PM
Turns out. But did the responding officers know that?

Or were they told by the manager the gentlemen refused to leave, thus essentially filing a trespass complaint.

Wonder if "Holly" will be able to get a job shoving fries out a drive through window when this is all over? Hope so. I'd hate to have tax payers supporting the stupid witch the rest of her useless life.
Obviously they knew nothing, they were following orders from the commander, which is why this police chief wound up apologizing in the end.
I wonder how many millions Starsucks will end up settling this out of court for? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 20, 2018, 06:03:32 PM
Obviously they knew nothing, they were following orders from the commander, which is why this police chief wound up apologizing in the end.
(http://I wonder how many millions)Starsucks will end up settling this out of court for? :biggrin:



We will never know.  But I have a feeeeeeeeling the coffee will start costing more.   :lol:  No I don't do Starsucks, I make my own coffee.  Or sit down at a nice full size restaurant and drink a real cup of coffee with refills. 
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 21, 2018, 05:27:54 AM
Turns out, the cops were called two minutes after the Mgnr talked to them the first time.
I'd like to see the video from three HD cameras they're refusing to release.


My surmise would be that the Cops, FOLLOWING PROCEEDURE, explained that the two men would have to leave or be subject to arrest for tresspassing.  Likely they refused, giving the cops no choice.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2018, 06:59:58 AM

My surmise would be that the Cops, FOLLOWING PROCEEDURE, explained that the two men would have to leave or be subject to arrest for tresspassing.  Likely they refused, giving the cops no choice.

Yeah, that's what the video showed, the cops were just doing their job`, rather professionally, I might add..

See, this is the one thing that makes me question the veracity of all of this.
Most normal people would have just left and never returned to another Starsucks and told their friends how they were treated.
Every business lives by this rule, "Make a customer, and they'll probably bring a friend, but screw a customer over and they'll tell everyone they know not to go."

Anyway, why did these two stay? They knew they'd be arrested. The reason I believe this is, their 'White' friend just conveniently arrived in time to be seen on a video claiming "they'd done nothing wrong". Which instantly went viral. why did an uneventful arrest go viral? Because it was marketed quickly.
Problem with this is, he wasn't even there, unless he knew beforehand they were told to be peaceable and just wait to be arrested.

So in essence, what we have here is a Feminazi, racist manager that everyone knew had a short fuse for all men and was easily triggered when men didn't play her shit games.
Yeah, Starsucks deserves to lose this one, they hired an SJW, a person no one in their right mind would ever want around meeting the public.

I love watching the left being eaten by their own shit PC rules. :cool:
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: walkstall on April 23, 2018, 03:27:02 PM
Hardly a Stir When Starbucks Denied a Cop.

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Kudos for Sheriff David Clarke for reminding us of the double standard practiced by the self-righteous guardians of social justice such as Starbucks, who flagellate themselves in public over the injustice of denying non-paying patrons use of their facilities – patrons who happen to be black:

Not too long ago a Philadelphia Starbucks refused to let a police officer use the restroom telling him it was for paying customers.  Don't remember Starbucks closing 8000 stores for sensitivity training toward police.


more @
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/04/hardly_a_stir_when_starbucks_denied_a_cop.html
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Sheik Yerbuti on April 23, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
Umm, for being black? These two guys were arrested for nothing more than waiting for a  friend.
I don't care who you are, that isn't illegal.
It'll take more than an apology to fix this mess.
Video at link. They were calm and cooperative.


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Overpriced liberal bean juice emporium Starbucks has a very serious public relations problem as it has managed to piss off a huge chunk of its customer base over an incident that went down in Philadelphia.

Two black men were sitting a Starbucks location without buying anything while “waiting for a friend” and at least one employee called the cops.

'It's racism at its ugliest level': National outrage and call for Starbucks boycott after two black men are arrested for trying to use restroom without buying anything
Two black men in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, were arrested Thursday
They were sitting in Starbucks waiting for their friend when the cops were called
The hashtag #BoycottStarbucks was trending Saturday after the incident
People called the moment 'racism at its ugliest level' in America
Starbucks CEO Kevin Johnson plans to fly to Philadelphia to apologize face-to-face with the two men who were arrested 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616937/Outraged-social-media-users-call-boycott-Starbucks-two-black-men-arrested.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
What does their race have to do with it? They were asked to leave because they were non-paying customers; and they refused. They were then arrested for trespassing.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2018, 07:13:32 PM
What does their race have to do with it? They were asked to leave because they were non-paying customers; and they refused. They were then arrested for trespassing.
What does their race have to do with anything?
Conservatives don't give a flying fuck about race, we're about an individuals' character. The left uses race as a weapon and in this case, it backfired in their face big time so we're exploiting the left.
There's your race connection.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Sheik Yerbuti on April 24, 2018, 07:14:25 PM
What does their race have to do with anything?
Conservatives don't give a flying fuck about race, we're about an individuals' character. The left uses race as a weapon and in this case, it backfired in their face big time so we're exploiting the left.
There's your race connection.
So ... you're making it about race because the left makes it about race even though the left didn't make this about race in this case?
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 24, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
So ... you're making it about race because the left makes it about race even though the left didn't make this about race in this case?

It became about race the moment race was entered into the issue.
Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2018, 09:29:02 PM
So ... you're making it about race because the left makes it about race even though the left didn't make this about race in this case?
How could I possibly make it about race, when the left already played that card under LBJ? Its been that way for more than 5 decades.
Maybe this will help you understand a bit better. Or are you going to keep your blinders on?
The left has always been about division, be it race, religion or class, they need people angry, it's the only way they can keep you ignorant of the truth.
Do you have anything constructive to add, or just trolling.

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Title: Re: Starbucks Has Two Black Men Arrested
Post by: Solar on April 24, 2018, 09:38:14 PM
It became about race the moment race was entered into the issue.
This is what happens when leftist PC clashes with itself. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Starsucks open for Diversity
Post by: Solar on April 30, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
Starsucks welcomes diversity, as long as you're not a JOOOO.

Starbucks drops Jewish group from bias training
By ANDREW HANNA 04/30/2018 05:09 PM EDT Updated 04/30/2018 05:20 PM EDT
Bowing to pressure from African-American activists, Starbucks excluded the Anti-Defamation League from an upcoming daylong anti-bias training session.

The ADL, whose mission is to fight anti-Semitism, will play an advisory role in the company's long-term efforts to combat discrimination, Jaime Riley, a Starbucks spokeswoman, told POLITICO Monday. But the group won't help develop the curriculum for Starbucks' May 29 mandatory anti-bias training, as originally planned.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/30/starbucks-adl-black-jewish-activists-511390
Title: Update
Post by: Solar on May 11, 2018, 11:22:05 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Man, libs just don't get it ever!

Starbucks Executive Howard Schultz: Bathrooms Open To Everyone After 2 Black Men Arrested

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/05/11/starbucks-schultz-bathrooms-open/