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Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood

urveying the total fiscal wreckage of this deal, Philip Klein comments that it's what you'd expect if Democrats controlled the White House and both chambers of Congress rather than the GOP. If you think that's an exaggeration, spend some time with Bloomberg's report and take in the full extent of this defeat. A blockquote can't do it justice.

If Boehner had negotiated this deal, right-wing media would destroy him for it. If Ryan had negotiated this deal under Obama, right-wing media would destroy him for it. But because Trump's going to sign this deal — I assume — and call it a "victory" since it avoids a shutdown until September, we're looking at half a day of grumbles.

"Overall," Bloomberg sniffs, echoing Klein, "the compromise resembles more of an Obama administration-era budget than a Trump one." The bill even allows DHS to increase the number of H-2B visas through September, for fark's sake. As for the scant Republican "victories," most of them also represent climbdowns from what the GOP was initially demanding. Trump got $15 billion more in defense spending, but that was less than what he asked for; he got $1.5 billion for border security, as noted above, but that was half of the $3 billion he requested and comes with the limitations described by Bloomberg. The only clear win, it seems, was striking a permanent rather than temporary deal on health care for retired coal miners, although I'm sure that was a fight Democrats were happy to "lose." They need to rebuild their party among working-class whites. That's something they can point to.

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http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/01/bored-winning-new-spending-bill-no-money-wall-no-cuts-sanctuary-cities-funding-planned-parenthood/

Quote from: Bronx on May 01, 2017, 11:34:54 AM
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Bored with winning: New spending bill has no money for the wall, no cuts to sanctuary cities, funding for Planned Parenthood

urveying the total fiscal wreckage of this deal, Philip Klein comments that it's what you'd expect if Democrats controlled the White House and both chambers of Congress rather than the GOP. If you think that's an exaggeration, spend some time with Bloomberg's report and take in the full extent of this defeat. A blockquote can't do it justice.

If Boehner had negotiated this deal, right-wing media would destroy him for it. If Ryan had negotiated this deal under Obama, right-wing media would destroy him for it. But because Trump's going to sign this deal — I assume — and call it a "victory" since it avoids a shutdown until September, we're looking at half a day of grumbles.

"Overall," Bloomberg sniffs, echoing Klein, "the compromise resembles more of an Obama administration-era budget than a Trump one." The bill even allows DHS to increase the number of H-2B visas through September, for fark's sake. As for the scant Republican "victories," most of them also represent climbdowns from what the GOP was initially demanding. Trump got $15 billion more in defense spending, but that was less than what he asked for; he got $1.5 billion for border security, as noted above, but that was half of the $3 billion he requested and comes with the limitations described by Bloomberg. The only clear win, it seems, was striking a permanent rather than temporary deal on health care for retired coal miners, although I'm sure that was a fight Democrats were happy to "lose." They need to rebuild their party among working-class whites. That's something they can point to.

READ MORE.....
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/01/bored-winning-new-spending-bill-no-money-wall-no-cuts-sanctuary-cities-funding-planned-parenthood/

While I would have liked to have all our conservative desires with this CR, let us remember this is just for five months to get us to the next fiscal year. Now the real test begins. We have a GOP WH and congress. Budget legislation only requires 51 votes in the senate. The pressure is now on the GOP to pass a conservative budget. They cannot blame the democrats if they can't get a budget. They need to be totally tone deaf to Schumer and Pelosi. F--k them! Let 'em scream.

Looks like a democrat drafted budget.

So much for the "Great Deal Maker".

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 01, 2017, 12:42:40 PM
While I would have liked to have all our conservative desires with this CR, let us remember this is just for five months to get us to the next fiscal year. Now the real test begins. We have a GOP WH and congress. Budget legislation only requires 51 votes in the senate. The pressure is now on the GOP to pass a conservative budget. They cannot blame the democrats if they can't get a budget. They need to be totally tone deaf to Schumer and Pelosi. F--k them! Let 'em scream.

I realize that this budget only takes us into September; but what make you think that the next budget will be any better? So far the GOP majority in the House has been a major disappointment; first the Bammycare blunder and now the budget the doesn't include money appropriated for what President Trump is trying to accomplish. Did we  really expect anything different out of Ryan?  Things aren't going to change as long as he's Speaker. He will cost the GOP seats in the House that we can't afford to lose in 2018.  I'm really surprised that there hasn't been a demand from Trump supporters to replace Ryan.

Quote from: Ms.Independence on May 01, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
I realize that this budget only takes us into September; but what make you think that the next budget will be any better? So far the GOP majority in the House has been a major disappointment; first the Bammycare blunder and now the budget the doesn't include money appropriated for what President Trump is trying to accomplish. Did we  really expect anything different out of Ryan?  Things aren't going to change as long as he's Speaker. He will cost the GOP seats in the House that we can't afford to lose in 2018.  I'm really surprised that there hasn't been a demand from Trump supporters to replace Ryan.

If they're RINO seats, who cares? At this point the GOP'e are no different than when Fuglosi was running things, in fact, I'd say worse because at least we knew what the left wanted.
I say good riddance to the RINO scum, even if it meant giving Dims control again, (which isn't going to happen for years) but if it did, at least we wouldn't have to fight our own party to get the right thing done.

Screw the gop'E, let the scum suffer.

Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2017, 04:11:04 PM
If they're RINO seats, who cares? At this point the GOP'e are no different than when Fuglosi was running things, in fact, I'd say worse because at least we knew what the left wanted.
I say good riddance to the RINO scum, even if it meant giving Dims control again, (which isn't going to happen for years) but if it did, at least we wouldn't have to fight our own party to get the right thing done.

Screw the gop'E, let the scum suffer.

We're getting what we knew we were going to get with a rino congress and a liberal president. And to think we could have had Cruz.  I hope the lsm chocks on supper tonight.

To me an increase in defense spending isnt a "win". There is no reason to vote republican in 2018 and  i am very  confident dems will win the house and senate. Its as if reps WANT to be the minority.

Quote from: ldub23 on May 01, 2017, 04:25:23 PM
To me an increase in defense spending isnt a "win". There is no reason to vote republican in 2018 and  i am very  confident dems will win the house and senate. Its as if reps WANT to be the minority.

Let me guess, you get your news from CNN or MSNBC?
Perez just affirmed, despite Fuglosi protestations, and half the party threatening to leave, he stated, No Prolifers welcome in the party.
And you think they have a shot?

They have to first hit bottom before they can resurrect the dead, then they need to bull shit an entirely new generation like they did the Millennial, that caught onto their lies.
No, I've been saying it for years, the Dim party killed itself off.

Tell me, how is moving further left going to get these idiots elected, especially when the GOP is further left than the DNC of the 1970s?
Seriously, I'm all ears, show me what the party has to offer libs that the GOP isn't already giving them in this Bill, I really want to understand what it is you think the Dims have to offer?

Quote from: tac on May 01, 2017, 03:08:25 PM
Looks like a democrat drafted budget.

Doesn't it, though!

QuoteDemocrats won the latest shutdown showdown fight, triumphing over President Trump on nearly every major issue in the $1 trillion spending bill negotiators announced early Monday.

Mr. Trump emerged with more money for the Pentagon, but the funds will be tacked onto the deficit rather than offset by the deep domestic cuts the president sought. Mr. Trump also failed to get any money for his border wall and was forced to agree to make "unauthorized" Obamacare payments.

Democrats, meanwhile, struggled to think of a single major fight they lost — and couldn't come up with any significant defeat in the bill.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/1/donald-trump-defeated-by-democrats-on-spending-bil/

And the babies keep getting butchered while doubling the visas will only guarantee further unemployment for U.S. citizens.

Was there ever any doubt the GOP is only a branch of the Democrats?

Quote from: Solar on May 01, 2017, 04:37:52 PM
Let me guess, you get your news from CNN or MSNBC?
Perez just affirmed, despite Fuglosi protestations, and half the party threatening to leave, he stated, No Prolifers welcome in the party.
And you think they have a shot?

They have to first hit bottom before they can resurrect the dead, then they need to bull shit an entirely new generation like they did the Millennial, that caught onto their lies.
No, I've been saying it for years, the Dim party killed itself off.

Tell me, how is moving further left going to get these idiots elected, especially when the GOP is further left than the DNC of the 1970s?
Seriously, I'm all ears, show me what the party has to offer libs that the GOP isn't already giving them in this Bill, I really want to understand what it is you think the Dims have to offer?

We will find  out  next year. If the dem party is dead then why was a democrat budget  just  passed by Paul Ryan?

Quote from: ldub23 on May 02, 2017, 03:30:54 AM
We will find  out  next year. If the dem party is dead then why was a democrat budget  just  passed by Paul Ryan?

You sure that wasn't his political suicide note?

Quote from: Ms.Independence on May 01, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
I realize that this budget only takes us into September; but what make you think that the next budget will be any better? So far the GOP majority in the House has been a major disappointment; first the Bammycare blunder and now the budget the doesn't include money appropriated for what President Trump is trying to accomplish. Did we  really expect anything different out of Ryan?  Things aren't going to change as long as he's Speaker. He will cost the GOP seats in the House that we can't afford to lose in 2018.  I'm really surprised that there hasn't been a demand from Trump supporters to replace Ryan.

Please reread my post. I clearly stated the test for the GOP comes in September when they hold all the cards. Trump made a good call not to shut down the government as that would have become a gift wrapped issue for the democrats.

Quote from: ldub23 on May 02, 2017, 03:30:54 AM
We will find  out  next year. If the dem party is dead then why was a democrat budget  just  passed by Paul Ryan?

I'll ask you again, what does the DNC have to offer that the GOP didn't give the left?
Note quiller's post above mine.

"Democrats, meanwhile, struggled to think of a single major fight they lost — and couldn't come up with any significant defeat in the bill."

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 02, 2017, 04:50:06 AM
Please reread my post. I clearly stated the test for the GOP comes in September when they hold all the cards. Trump made a good call not to shut down the government as that would have become a gift wrapped issue for the democrats.

I really don't understand this. Please help me understand the reason to avoid a shutdown of the government now only to shutdown the government in Sept...?

What i'm missing here...?