Speaker of the House

Started by kroz, October 04, 2015, 11:05:02 AM

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kroz


The establishment fears an open process for any election because the competition inherent in such a process brings out the truth and the truth hurts their cause.  That is why they are seeking to preempt a protracted race for Speaker by clearing the field with Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)58%
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/09/paul-ryan-is-the-absolute-worst-choice-for-speaker/

Paul Ryan is the worst possible choice at this time.  And his voting record is 58%!!   :ohmy:

Dori

I heard that he really doesn't want to do it.
The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.

kroz

Quote from: Dori on October 09, 2015, 10:08:02 AM
I heard that he really doesn't want to do it.

That is largely because he has little kids and would be out of town 3-4 weekends a month on fund raising trips.  (He said the job should go to an empty nester.)

Also, he much prefers the nuts of bolts of the Ways and Means Committee Chairmanship.  It fits his skill set better than Speaker.

And, you cannot ignore the fact that it is a bucket of worms.  With debt ceiling and budget looming in the near future, there are no universally acceptable solutions to the dilemma.  It is akin to herding cats.

However, they are now saying that the real issue that has to be addressed is changing the way business is done in the House.  Instead of the top down structure, it should be a bottom up structure.  Representatives must be given more power and voice in the daily routine of business.  They should be able to write Bills, bring them to the floor for discussion, and given a vote.  That is the way the Founders intended it to be but it hasn't been that way in decades.

If the conservatives can get a change in the way things are done, the person in the Speaker's chair will not be that important.  He should not be given the power to control everything.

Dubinsky

Here's all one needs to know if Ryan decides to run.

Democratic Rep. Luis Gutierrez on MSNBC called Ryan one of the smartest men in the GOP.

"He would be good for the country," Gutierrez said. "He would be good for the Republican Party. Paul Ryan is the kind of individual that would work with people on the other side of the aisle and that's what we need.'"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politics/house-speaker-race-paul-ryan/index.html

kroz

Breitbart did a poll of their readers asking which person they would prefer as Speaker.

Gowdy won by a mile.

Dubinsky


kroz

Ann Coulter accepts Paul Ryan's challenge to a debate on amnesty.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/09/ann-coulter-accepts-paul-ryans-challenge-debate-marco-rubios-amnesty-bill/

Ann believes illegal immigration is the #1 issue in America today.

She also supports Dave Brat for the next Speaker.  She compares Brat to Ryan and makes a strong case!


kroz

Conservatives aim to change the "process" more than the leadership!
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"I want to see a change in the culture of Washington D.C.," said Representative Barry Loudermilk, a freshman from Georgia who is a member of the Freedom Caucus that helped drive Mr. Boehner from office. "The way you do that is not who you elect, but it's the process. It's the procedures."

"How are we going to change the process, how are we going to make it a more bottom-up versus a top-down structure?" he said.

If they succeed, they will reverse a trend that began with Democrats in the 1970s but reached new heights with the Republican takeover of 1994. The incoming speaker at that time, Newt Gingrich, centralized power in the leadership suites and moved it away from committee chairmen, requiring them to win the approval of the leadership team.

The conservatives' demands, including a long list of proposed rules changes, are made clear in a revealing questionnaire that they drew up for candidates seeking to replace Mr. Boehner.

On Friday, the conservatives said they would demand answers to the same questionnaire from Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, whom many Republicans are imploring to run for speaker, should he decide to seek the post.

The changes would include stripping the speaker of his outsize power over the Republican steering committee, which appoints the chairmen for all committees as well as for Appropriations subcommittees. The changes would also reduce the leadership's tight control over what bills and amendments reach the House floor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/us/politics/after-boehner-house-hard-liners-aim-to-weaken-speakers-clout.html?_r=0

walkstall



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Could Newt Gingrich end up right back to the place that made him a political celebrity?

During an interview with radio host Sean Hannity Thursday, the former speaker told the host that while he isn't pining to retake the position he vacated in 1999, he would not be opposed to serving as interim speaker if he had the 218 votes necessary.


more @   10/8/15
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gingrich-says-hed-consider-interim-speakership/article/2573731
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gingrich-says-hed-consider-interim-speakership/article/2573731
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

Quote from: walkstall on October 10, 2015, 10:22:11 AM

snip~
Could Newt Gingrich end up right back to the place that made him a political celebrity?

During an interview with radio host Sean Hannity Thursday, the former speaker told the host that while he isn't pining to retake the position he vacated in 1999, he would not be opposed to serving as interim speaker if he had the 218 votes necessary.


more @   10/8/15
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gingrich-says-hed-consider-interim-speakership/article/2573731
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gingrich-says-hed-consider-interim-speakership/article/2573731

If you read my previous post it says that Newt is responsible for the current problem in the House which centralizes power with the Speaker.

I don't think we want him back in power.  JMHO

walkstall

Quote from: kroz on October 10, 2015, 10:26:16 AM
If you read my previous post it says that Newt is responsible for the current problem in the House which centralizes power with the Speaker.

I don't think we want him back in power.  JMHO


It' like the President the Speaker of the House can be anyone.  With the right amount of votes. But he would only need 218, unlike the president.   "It will take 270 electoral votes to win the 2016 presidential election."

A map you can play with for 2016.
http://www.270towin.com/
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

kroz

Quote from: walkstall on October 10, 2015, 11:04:48 AM

It' like the President the Speaker of the House can be anyone.  With the right amount of votes. But he would only need 218, unlike the president.   "It will take 270 electoral votes to win the 2016 presidential election."

A map you can play with for 2016.
http://www.270towin.com/

Yes, it can be anyone.  But Newt isn't the solution.  He is part of the problem.   :biggrin:

That interaction map is interesting.  I think we will get Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.  That will do it!!  :laugh:

walkstall

Quote from: kroz on October 10, 2015, 11:24:02 AM
Yes, it can be anyone.  But Newt isn't the solution.  He is part of the problem.   :biggrin:

That interaction map is interesting.  I think we will get Florida, Ohio, North Carolina and Pennsylvania.  That will do it!!  :laugh:

I like playing with it.  What if?  If I don't like it I can reset it.   :lol:
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

daidalos

http://www.heritageactionscorecard.com/members/member/R000570

Thought ya's might find it interesting to look up these folks as their names are brought up by the MSM telling us who deserves to be third in line to the President.

Paul Ryan is based upon his actions, not just what he says, is yet another business as usual RINO, if this Heritage site and what they say about his votes is to be believed.

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kroz

Paul Ryan is the GOPe's third strike.

If he fails, the conservatives come to bat!