Check it out, he's saying the party is not happy with this fiasco, that some are bored and want to move on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jD2MCYnjXU&feature=youtu.be
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1196119931408015361&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fjacobb-38%2F2019%2F11%2F17%2Fyou-dont-disenfranchise-voters-dem-rep-calls-out-his-own-party-for-not-understanding-the-importance-of-impeachment%2F
He is trying to show Pelosi her out from this fiasco.
I dont get why Mitch doesnt just say this farce is dead on arrival in the senate.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2019, 02:53:10 PM
I dont get why Mitch doesnt just say this farce is dead on arrival in the senate.
A lot of the Dims know when the Senate gets their hands on this, they'll subpoena a shitload of Dims, the Senate will drag it out close to the 2020 election, all the while exposing how the Dim party plotted a coup to over throw an election and subvert the will of the people.
These Dims know this is a deadened move for their party and want it to end.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2019, 02:53:10 PM
I dont get why Mitch doesnt just say this farce is dead on arrival in the senate.
Pelosi could then pull the impeachment saying it was now rigged by Mitch and he would just be wasting taxpayers money. Mitch does not need to be making this decision for nancy. She has two choices, can the impeachment and piss off all the socialist in the democrat party, maybe piss them off to form their own party called the socialist party, or go ahead and vote to impeach there by pissing off the American voters especially when Mitch starts calling witnesses. She dug and crawled into this grave, we need to throw dirt on it not give her a lifeline.
Quote from: ldub23 on November 17, 2019, 02:53:10 PM
I dont get why Mitch doesnt just say this farce is dead on arrival in the senate.
If he has a drawn out trial Harris, Warren, Sanders and Booker will be forced off the campaign trail for weeks. Right before the first caucuses. And, they will be on record supporting something very unpopular with the country. Plus the GOP can drag in everyone they want to testify. Including Adam Schiff. And the risk is minimal. The GOP could afford to lose about 17 republicans and still win the vote.
If it goes to trial in the senate no hearsay will be allowed and the demonrats have no case.
Quote from: s3779m on November 17, 2019, 02:59:30 PM
Pelosi could then pull the impeachment saying it was now rigged by Mitch and he would just be wasting taxpayers money. Mitch does not need to be making this decision for nancy. She has two choices, can the impeachment and piss off all the socialist in the democrat party, maybe piss them off to form their own party called the socialist party, or go ahead and vote to impeach there by pissing off the American voters especially when Mitch starts calling witnesses. She dug and crawled into this grave, we need to throw dirt on it not give her a lifeline.
Agree!!!
Something their media isn't talking about is the split in the party. As you pointed out, if Fuglosi doesn't do as the radicals demand, they'll start a new party, splitting the base in two, leaving the Dim party dead in the water.
This kind of happened in the GOP party, where a huge faction jumped to the Libertarian party, but the GOP was way ahead of them by installing a RINO at the helm, the LIBerarian movement never stood a chance.
The Dims won't be so lucky. :biggrin:
Quote from: Solar on November 18, 2019, 07:06:46 AM
Agree!!!
Something their media isn't talking about is the split in the party. As you pointed out, if Fuglosi doesn't do as the radicals demand, they'll start a new party, splitting the base in two, leaving the Dim party dead in the water.
This kind of happened in the GOP party, where a huge faction jumped to the Libertarian party, but the GOP was way ahead of them by installing a RINO at the helm, the LIBerarian movement never stood a chance.
The Dims won't be so lucky. :biggrin:
This situation begs for the GOP just to stay out of the way. The democrats are going 100mph to the edge of the cliff. Don't stop them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgvqJu1m8I
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 18, 2019, 07:48:59 AM
This situation begs for the GOP just to stay out of the way. The democrats are going 100mph to the edge of the cliff. Don't stop them.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
And sitting at the bottom of the cliff is the GOP waiting to throw gas on the Dims perpetual self incineration.
Quote from: Bronx on November 18, 2019, 08:18:35 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMgvqJu1m8I
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OMG!!!! She nails it!!!
Quote from: Solar on November 18, 2019, 09:38:16 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
OMG!!!! She nails it!!!
I saw the interview and was a little surprised as Areu is a pure leftist. The question is will Pelosi listen.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 18, 2019, 10:32:14 AM
I saw the interview and was a little surprised as Areu is a pure leftist. The question is will Pelosi listen.
From a completely unbiased opinion? I don't think she has any other option. Though I have no idea how they will be able to spin this, they're in a lose lose, regardless.
If an impeachment trial goes to the senate the demonrats won't have any witnesses. Hearsay is not admissible especially second and third hand.
Quote from: Killer Clouds on November 18, 2019, 10:47:27 AM
If an impeachment trial goes to the senate the demonrats won't have any witnesses. Hearsay is not admissible especially second and third hand.
Not being a lawyer, I agree with you based on my limited knowledge of the law. HOWEVER, the judge will be John Roberts and who knows what he might do.
Quote from: Solar on November 18, 2019, 10:42:27 AM
From a completely unbiased opinion? I don't think she has any other option. Though I have no idea how they will be able to spin this, they're in a lose lose, regardless.
Pretty good interview, she nailed the part about no other options. Where she lost me,,,,,,,,,,what's this "lets vote him out" crap coming from? I hate to bust her bubble but the only way to vote Trump out is to wait until 2024. And thats not a sure thing anymore, Trump jr. might run.
Quote from: s3779m on November 18, 2019, 12:59:15 PM
Pretty good interview, she nailed the part about no other options. Where she lost me,,,,,,,,,,what's this "lets vote him out" crap coming from? I hate to bust her bubble but the only way to vote Trump out is to wait until 2024. And thats not a sure thing anymore, Trump jr. might run.
I think she is trying to give Fuglosi cover, as if dropping the impeachment would be for the electorate. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol: Everyone with 2 working brain cells knows Trump is unbeatable.
I'd love to see Trump Jr run, he'd have my vote in a heart beat because I know DJT would be there to guide him every step of the way. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Solar on November 18, 2019, 01:03:32 PM
I think she is trying to give Fuglosi cover, as if dropping the impeachment would be for the electorate. :rolleyes: :lol: :lol: :lol: Everyone with 2 working brain cells knows Trump is unbeatable.
I'd love to see Trump Jr run, he'd have my vote in a heart beat because I know DJT would be there to guide him every step of the way. :thumbsup:
Well then, they need to sober the old girl up and tell her the plan. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: s3779m on November 18, 2019, 01:26:33 PM
Well then, they need to sober the old girl up and tell her the plan. :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know if alcohol makes any difference at this point, I think age has taken a toll on her mind. She is now just a puppet for?
Based on what I saw this morning the democrats have to be in pure panic mode. Numes exposed Schiff for the absolute fraud he is when Schiff tried to shut down the question about who the colonel told about the call.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 19, 2019, 12:02:04 PM
Based on what I saw this morning the democrats have to be in pure panic mode. Numes exposed Schiff for the absolute fraud he is when Schiff tried to shut down the question about who the colonel told about the call.
When all is said and done, Schiff need to be put under oath for about a week of questioning. If he takes the 5th he should lose everything he has down to the last cent in his pocket.
Quote from: walkstall on November 19, 2019, 12:25:48 PM
When all is said and done, Schiff need to be put under oath for about a week of questioning. If he takes the 5th he should lose everything he has down to the last cent in his pocket.
Don't worry about Schiff. When this impeachment fiasco fails the democrats will follow their playbook and throw him under the bus.
Boo would like this report.....
THE BOOMERANG IS GOING TO BE DEVASTATING!
PELOSI DISASTER: 95% of Americans TUNED OUT Impeachment Show Trials on Friday — Only the SECOND DAY of Testimony
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/pelosi-disaster-95-of-americans-tuned-out-impeachment-show-trials-on-friday-only-the-second-day-of-testimony/
I'm placing bets on Vindman receiving a court martial after all is said and done.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2019, 01:20:46 PM
I'm placing bets on Vindman receiving a court martial after all is said and done.
Schitt and Vindman both need to be charged with perjury.
Quote from: Killer Clouds on November 19, 2019, 05:28:34 PM
Schitt and Vindman both need to be charged with perjury.
Vindman faces an even harsher penalty via Military court. Schitt simply needs to go straight to jail, and I'm certain charges are coming.
Quote from: Double Jobber on November 19, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Every impeachment that I saw on TV was just another incorporated step in the presidents term of office. They impeach every president every time and no one ever truly seems worried the president will get ousted.
What are you talking about?
Quote from: Double Jobber on November 19, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Every impeachment that I saw on TV was just another incorporated step in the presidents term of office. They impeach every president every time and no one ever truly seems worried the president will get ousted.
We've only had one.
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2019, 06:33:45 AM
We've only had one.
:lol:
Is he flinging poo and hope it will stick? :lol:
Quote from: walkstall on November 20, 2019, 08:52:36 AM
:lol:
Is he flinging poo and hope it will stick? :lol:
Nah, I think he meant to say something else, but his fingers didn't hear what his brain was saying. I know this from experience. :lol:
I do not desire to derail this thread, however, I have a question I would appreciate feedback from you folks.
These hearings seem to focus on quid pro quo with the Ukranian president. To be quite honest, I have no problem with quid pro quo dealing with other countries. If the USA providing funding for whatever, why should we not expect something in return?
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
I do not desire to derail this thread, however, I have a question I would appreciate feedback from you folks.
These hearings seem to focus on quid pro quo with the Ukranian president. To be quite honest, I have no problem with quid pro quo dealing with other countries. If the USA providing funding for whatever, why should we not expect something in return?
From what I hear, it is how most foreign policy is conducted. Contingencies are a part of negotiation. These types of interactions take place in everyday life, and there is nothing wrong with them. Where the problem comes in, is whether or not it was directed for foreign policy or for personal benefit. According to the dems, it was for the personal benefit of Trump in exchange for dirt or investigations into Joe Biden.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
I do not desire to derail this thread, however, I have a question I would appreciate feedback from you folks.
These hearings seem to focus on quid pro quo with the Ukranian president. To be quite honest, I have no problem with quid pro quo dealing with other countries. If the USA providing funding for whatever, why should we not expect something in return?
That's the problem. The Dims know they have nothing and hoped to blame Trump for Biden's BS, by claiming Trump was breaking the law investigating "quid pro quo". The whole thing is backfiring big time and the Dims are starting to panic.
The investigation into Burisma involving Biden and his kid has begun in Ukraine and when it's done, which won't be long, all Hell is going to break lose and even the millennial lib will be forced to accept the fact that the left has been lying to them all along.
Like I said, I wish I was tech savvy. Picture this, a million playing cards all depicting Dim corruption built into huge mansion, and filmed in slow motion, the cards begin to collapse.
Everyone knows the outcome because once a house of cards starts collapsing, there's just no stopping it. That's the Dim party.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
I do not desire to derail this thread, however, I have a question I would appreciate feedback from you folks.
These hearings seem to focus on quid pro quo with the Ukranian president. To be quite honest, I have no problem with quid pro quo dealing with other countries. If the USA providing funding for whatever, why should we not expect something in return?
Best I can tell, it is ok to expect the other country to hire your son at an enormous salary for doing no work, but the next president is not suppose to ask any question about that relationship.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
I do not desire to derail this thread, however, I have a question I would appreciate feedback from you folks.
These hearings seem to focus on quid pro quo with the Ukranian president. To be quite honest, I have no problem with quid pro quo dealing with other countries. If the USA providing funding for whatever, why should we not expect something in return?
All foreign policy is based on some sort of quid pro quo. That is not illegal. The issue is basically a question. "Did Trump do this to root out corruption or to help his 2020 campaign?" The latter is illegal. The former is not and so far there is no definitive evidence for anything. All we have is opinions.
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2019, 02:31:46 PM
That's the problem. The Dims know they have nothing and hoped to blame Trump for Biden's BS, by claiming Trump was breaking the law investigating "quid pro quo". The whole thing is backfiring big time and the Dims are starting to panic.
The investigation into Burisma involving Biden and his kid has begun in Ukraine and when it's done, which won't be long, all Hell is going to break lose and even the millennial lib will be forced to accept the fact that the left has been lying to them all along.
Like I said, I wish I was tech savvy. Picture this, a million playing cards all depicting Dim corruption built into huge mansion, and filmed in slow motion, the cards begin to collapse.
Everyone knows the outcome because once a house of cards starts collapsing, there's just no stopping it. That's the Dim party.
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Quote from: walkstall on November 20, 2019, 06:24:59 PM
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