Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:07:46 PM
It would be except that the Democrats passed a Police Reform bill.

https://newrepublic.com/article/158106/democrats-police-reform-bill
Like I said,  Using a dead man to get votes is pretty disgusting, don't you agree?

Quote from: Possum on July 03, 2020, 05:13:50 PM
https://newrepublic.com/article/158106/democrats-police-reform-bill
Like I said,  Using a dead man to get votes is pretty disgusting, don't you agree?

It is. Did any of them say why they wanted to continue negotiating the bill? That's what the vote was for, to end the negotiations.

I hope they have good reason. Maybe the Senate can just take up the bi-partisan House bill and move on with that...

Hopefully our legislators in the Senate can work this out.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:08:05 PM
No, but it's our American history. We still have to deal with it.

Key word "American history", it's over, no one alive today is effected by it. Get over it!

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:08:13 PM
Hmm...not a terrible idea. I'd change that instead of repaying by Party, which is sloppy, the States of the former Confederacy should be made to pay.  It makes more logical sense since they lost the war to keep Slavery and were the ones to vote against almost every Civil Rights legislation.

WOW! That was stupid!!! The Confederacy paid with lives and livelihood, as well as having their currency killed. The price was paid, get over yourself!

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:18:26 PM
It is. Did any of them say why they wanted to continue negotiating the bill? That's what the vote was for, to end the negotiations.

I hope they have good reason. Maybe the Senate can just take up the bi-partisan House bill and move on with that...

Hopefully our legislators in the Senate can work this out.

The democrats could have worked thru differences, McConnell was willing to work on amendments, but they choose to keep it for a campaign issue. Pretty disgusting, but we are talking about pelosi. Don't think the senate will take it up, it does not address the issues.

Quote from: Solar on July 03, 2020, 05:22:38 PM
Key word "American history", it's over, no one alive today is effected by it. Get over it!

I'd say that the rain from yesterday effects my lawn today.

That's fine. We'll leave it at that if you don't think the past effects the future.

At least we agreed that it was around 1970 when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

We can end our discussion on that consensus.

Quote from: Possum on July 03, 2020, 05:25:59 PM
The democrats could have worked thru differences, McConnell was willing to work on amendments, but they choose to keep it for a campaign issue. Pretty disgusting, but we are talking about pelosi. Don't think the senate will take it up, it does not address the issues.

McConnell voted to keep the discussions open along with the Dems.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2020/s126

I think and hope they work this out eventually.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:32:52 PM
So...are you asking if I'm interested in Justice? The answer is yes. And like I've said, I'm glad that we, as a nation, are moving more in that direction.

It's been a long road, but I think we might see the end of it in our lifetimes. I remember when we never thought we'd see a Black president. I remember when public opinion was agaisnt "Black Lives Matter", I remember when you couldn't be gay on TV, I remember when women weren't expected to have jobs.

Things are getting better. And for Blacks, it seems that things have accelerated. That is good.

Sorry pal, but the justice (social) you/they seek is not real justice, but scraps from a table.  Instead of claiming it you wait for it to be given. 

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:27:13 PM
I'd say that the rain from yesterday effects my lawn today.

Wow, we're talking 150 years ago, did that rain affect your lawn as well?

QuoteThat's fine. We'll leave it at that if you don't think the past effects the future.

History is to be learned from, not used as a weapon for extortion! Grow up!

QuoteAt least we agreed that it was around 1970 when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Pure Bull Shit! Never put words in my mouth, we agreed upon nothing whatsoever!

QuoteWe can end our discussion on that consensus.

No son, you don't get to lie and run away!!!

Do you think it's OK to be charged the debt your great great father owed?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:07:46 PM
It would be except that the Democrats passed a Police Reform bill.

They knew the GOP would not touch their bill. Then would not even vote to debate Tim Scott's senate bill and he told them they were able to discuss any amendments.

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:52:39 PM


I'm glad you agree with me that 1970 is around when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Now, looking forward, I hope that we can come together as a country and progress on this issue.

This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.

Why do you assume that "Blacks" were not capable of enjoying their citizenry as Americans?  I'm wondering how many blacks you've come to know on a personal level in your life? My life's experience tells me, black, white or whatever color in the rainbow you'd like to choose, you can't keep a good man down, no matter the opposition.
Do yourself a favor, and read some about black conservatives throughout American History.
"A good man often becomes a great man because of the opposition he faces."

Aside: Your application of the word "blacks" sounds somewhat like a projection of your own prejudices.

Quote from: WMK on July 04, 2020, 08:47:44 AM
Why do you assume that "Blacks" were not capable of enjoying their citizenry as Americans?  I'm wondering how many blacks you've come to know on a personal level in your life? My life's experience tells me, black, white or whatever color in the rainbow you'd like to choose, you can't keep a good man down, no matter the opposition.
Do yourself a favor, and read some about black conservatives throughout American History.
"A good man often becomes a great man because of the opposition he faces."

Aside: Your application of the word "blacks" sounds somewhat like a projection of your own prejudices.

Nailed it!!!
These libs see blacks as somehow inferior, that thy're incapable of bettering their lives unless the govt coddles them. That's the epitome of racism!
The only issue here is govt, Dims in particular, keeping them victims just like they do with every group under the sun.

Quote from: Solar on July 04, 2020, 08:52:54 AM
Nailed it!!!
These libs see blacks as somehow inferior, that thy're incapable of bettering their lives unless the govt coddles them. That's the epitome of racism!
The only issue here is govt, Dims in particular, keeping them victims just like they do with every group under the sun.

Agreed. The demonrats have always been racists. They judge people by the color of their skin instead of by their character. Joe the Troll is the worst kind of racist.

Quote from: Killer Clouds on July 04, 2020, 09:51:21 AM
Agreed. The demonrats have always been racists. They judge people by the color of their skin instead of by their character. Joe the Troll is the worst kind of racist.

BINGO!!!

Quote from: WMK on July 04, 2020, 08:47:44 AM
Why do you assume that "Blacks" were not capable of enjoying their citizenry as Americans?  I'm wondering how many blacks you've come to know on a personal level in your life? My life's experience tells me, black, white or whatever color in the rainbow you'd like to choose, you can't keep a good man down, no matter the opposition.
Do yourself a favor, and read some about black conservatives throughout American History.
"A good man often becomes a great man because of the opposition he faces."

Aside: Your application of the word "blacks" sounds somewhat like a projection of your own prejudices.

Because Blacks have largely been unable to enjoy the freedoms and liberties that Whites have.

The Constitution didn't recognize Blacks as full human. It took a Civil War, 3 Amendments and a military occupation of the South for Blacks to start enjoying some American freedom.

We abandoned Reconstruction after 10 years, and Blacks were subjugated to 2nd class citizenship again via Black codes, Jim Crow, disenfranchisement, lynchings, massacres, segregation, etc. So much so that their escape from the South as political refugees is dubbed, The Great Migration.

There's more, but you get the picture. I'm not saying it was impossible to succeed. But those were certainly not obstacles faced by all Americans.