Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 05:00:23 PM
No. I'm not insinuating that. Please don't address me as a partisan. I don't identify with a political party. George Washington warned us about that.

I'm glad that you, too, view the American experience of Blacks as a problem.

Imo, compromise after compromise, in our history, has helped doom the Black experience in America.

He didn't associate you with a party Joe the Troll. He said you are a liberal and you are. You're also a liar and a racist POS.

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 04:38:55 PM
Of course. Democrats have a terrible history.

That doesn't change my position, though.

imo, Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans around 1970.

That's a shame.

What I'm proud of is our collective reaction to Mr. Floyd's murder and the movement that seems to have ignited in this country to address our history with Black Americans.

"Democrats have a terrible history"?
That's like saying Stalin did some bad things! Wake the fuck up Joe, the DNC is guilty of murder, torture and, enslaving other humans unspeakable evils, and all you have to say is "Democrats have a terrible history"?

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
Yes, our

Major corporations are taking steps and donating funds to causes that will increase equity.

WRONG!  They are donating to ACTBLUE, a Dem group who doles out the money.  BLM is short a lot of money that was donated to them because Actblue has distributed to Tides and others.


There seems to be an acceleration in the movement towards equity for Blacks.

WRONG!  There is an act but it's only do nothing grandstanding.  The inequity is not with race, but with class, and that NOBODY but Trump seems to want to fix.

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 05:00:23 PM
No. I'm not insinuating that. Please don't address me as a partisan. I don't identify with a political party. George Washington warned us about that.

I'm glad that you, too, view the American experience of Blacks as a problem.

Imo, compromise after compromise, in our history, has helped doom the Black experience in America.

Come on Joe, who caused that experience? The democrats? 

Quote from: Mimsy on June 29, 2020, 09:58:49 AM
The end of the civil war ended in 1865, 154 years later and blacks are still bitching and moaning.   

But the BLACKS never mentioned who started SLAVERY in the US. A Black named Anthony Johnson in Virginia won a case that he could own another BLACK slave. No one talks about who sold Blacks in Africa to the slave runners. HINT: It was not the Eskimos? They were prisoners that lost in the Black wars in Africa and if not SOLD would have been murdered.
Ask any BLACK or BLM member who Nicolas Augustine, William Ellison, Anthony Johnson, Joshua John Ward, Dilsey Pope, Jacob Gasken, Nat Butler, Justus Angel, C Richards, P.C. Richards, Pendarvis Family, Antoine Dubuclet were??? ALL Black slave owners in the Civil War period. Bet NOT ONE Black, BLM, Black Politican know who these people are. That is part of BLACK History in the US and that is NOT going to change

Quote from: Possum on June 30, 2020, 03:30:55 AM
Come on Joe, who caused that experience? The democrats?

Yes, specifically those socially conservative southern Democrats.

But that's besides the point...what we have to do now is take this moment and run with it. Do as much as we can to reconcile with out past.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 01, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
Yes, specifically those socially conservative southern Democrats.

But that's besides the point...what we have to do now is take this moment and run with it. Do as much as we can to reconcile with out past.

Lets not forget, conservatives have always been against slavery as the founding fathers were, its part of the ideology. And also dont forget that progressivism, ie leftism, ie marxism, ie totalitarianism and athoritarianism, have always been evil and pushed big govt. There was no switch in the parties. Conservative long ago ceaced to mean "of the past" or "unchanging". Conservatism is the new experiment in world history, while leftism is the old failed way of doing things.

You might not be part of a party, but you certainly are on one side or the other regarding ideology and the culture war.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 01, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
Lets not forget, conservatives have always been against slavery as the founding fathers were, its part of the ideology. And also dont forget that progressivism, ie leftism, ie marxism, ie totalitarianism and athoritarianism, have always been evil and pushed big govt. There was no switch in the parties. Conservative long ago ceaced to mean "of the past" or "unchanging". Conservatism is the new experiment in world history, while leftism is the old failed way of doing things.

You might not be part of a party, but you certainly are on one side or the other regarding ideology and the culture war.

Joe the Troll is a liar. He's definitely a demonrat and that's how he votes.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 01, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
Yes, specifically those socially conservative southern Democrats.

No such animal!!!!

QuoteBut that's besides the point...what we have to do now is take this moment and run with it. Do as much as we can to reconcile with MY past.

FIFY
You libs have always been the racists, the fact that you support the party that still enslaves blacks and sells their aborted baby body parts speaks volumes abut who and what you are!

Quote from: T Hunt on July 01, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
Lets not forget, conservatives have always been against slavery as the founding fathers were, its part of the ideology. And also dont forget that progressivism, ie leftism, ie marxism, ie totalitarianism and athoritarianism, have always been evil and pushed big govt. There was no switch in the parties. Conservative long ago ceaced to mean "of the past" or "unchanging". Conservatism is the new experiment in world history, while leftism is the old failed way of doing things.

You might not be part of a party, but you certainly are on one side or the other regarding ideology and the culture war.

There was certainly a switch in who those southern conservative voters support.

But I try to refrain from being labeled, or labeling myself, as one political ideology or another because that leads to polarization.

Let me ask, what's the new definition of Conservatism to you?

Quote from: Solar on July 01, 2020, 12:07:05 PM
No such animal!!!!FIFY
You libs have always been the racists, the fact that you support the party that still enslaves blacks and sells their aborted baby body parts speaks volumes abut who and what you are!

Not anymore, no. Many of those people who voted for socially conservative Democrats vote for socially conservative Republicans now.

We can't change who we've been as a nation. But we can steer our future in a more Just direction together. The proposal to make Juneteenth a Federal holiday is a nice token from the GOP. Hopefully both parties can continue to build on the positive energy since Mr. Floyd's death.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:07:10 PM


a Federal holiday is a nice token from the GOP. Hopefully both parties can continue to build on the positive energy since Mr. Floyd's death.

George Floyd is nothing more than an convenient expendable forgettable opportunity to push their agenda.  IF you think otherwise you're either a moron a liar or both.

Schumer and Pelosi have already forgotten his name and called him George Kirby.  LOLOL   moronic left.

No country on the face of the earth has done more for the black man than THIS ONE.    We tore ourselves apart for 5 long years in order to secure their freedom..and men died. WHITE MEN...ON BOTH SIDES. 

and no country has been more unappreciated, vilified and slandered for it.

Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 02, 2020, 05:10:32 PM
George Floyd is nothing more than an convenient expendable forgettable opportunity to push their agenda.  IF you think otherwise you're either a moron a liar or both.

Schumer and Pelosi have already forgotten his name and called him George Kirby.  LOLOL   moronic left.

If the agenda is Police Reform and his death was enough to get both parties to the negotiating table, it's a positive aspect from a negative situation.

It seems that we as Americans are finally trying to address our past, including how that past affects our present. These are good things.

Justice for all is a good thing.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:15:47 PM
If the agenda is Police Reform and his death was enough to get both parties to the negotiating table, it's a positive aspect from a negative situation.

It seems that we as Americans are finally trying to address our past, including how that past affects our present. These are good things.

Justice for all is a good thing.

come on now...you can admit it here..   It's not justice that is sought.  It's reparations, revenge, dropping the constitution and redoing it to accommodate those that believe they've been harmed in some way...even though 100% of them have  never been slaves and 100% have never owned slaves.    Rules are only for some people, not others...and if Joe Biden is elected, there's gonna be a cleansing of white conservatives/Christians...and I think you know that.   If you're interested in justice then ALL lives should matter.  If you're interested in justice then unborn and about to be born black babies should not be on the chopping block.  hmm?   If youj're interested in justice then the truth would have been told loud and clear now about Trayvon martin, Michael Brown and all the other young hoodlums that got themselves killed.    If you were interested in justice you wouldn't stand by as conservatives are cancelled on social media and university campuses. 

It's not justice you guys are after.