Slavery & America

Started by Frenchconnection, June 27, 2020, 10:26:40 AM

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joesixpack

Quote from: Solar on June 29, 2020, 01:23:22 PM
Gee, and which party do you suppose was responsible for all of that?



I'm glad you agree with me that 1970 is around when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Now, looking forward, I hope that we can come together as a country and progress on this issue.

This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.
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Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:52:39 PM


I'm glad you agree with me that 1970 is around when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Now, looking forward, I hope that we can come together as a country and progress on this issue.

This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.
The only thing we agree on is the DNC is still exploiting and keeping the black family in chains.
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Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:52:39 PM


I'm glad you agree with me that 1970 is around when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Now, looking forward, I hope that we can come together as a country and progress on this issue.

This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.
And which part is that is that Joe the troll? Do you want to rewrite history based on today's standards?

joesixpack

Quote from: Solar on June 29, 2020, 02:07:53 PM
The only thing we agree on is the DNC is still exploiting and keeping the black family in chains.

Ah, so do you agree with Mimsy? Do Blacks have no reason to bitch and moan because the Civil War ended in 1865?

Are you, too, going to minimize our history of Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizens?
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

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Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Ah, so do you agree with Mimsy? Do Blacks have no reason to bitch and moan because the Civil War ended in 1865?

Are you, too, going to minimize our history of Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizens?
All that is complete BS. It happened in the past. It's HISTORY. It isn't happening now. We've moved past that except for assholes like you Joe the troll that want to love in the past but by today's standards. You're the only one making yourself into an ignorant victim. Racist garbage like you should look in the mirror and check yourself before accusing others.

Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Ah, so do you agree with Mimsy? Do Blacks have no reason to bitch and moan because the Civil War ended in 1865?

Are you, too, going to minimize our history of Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizens?
Our History? That is the history of the DNC! Are you denying it has always been the left that enslaved the black family?

You do know it was always the Republican party that came to the support of blacks, be it the Civil war, or the Civil Rights Act, the DNC has always been against freeing Blacks.

It's time for you to take a Real Civics/History Class?
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Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:52:39 PM


I'm glad you agree with me that 1970 is around when Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans.

Now, looking forward, I hope that we can come together as a country and progress on this issue.

This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.

The only issue is the Democrats and the plantation that they continue to run

And if you don't agree with me you ain't white
The only white privilege I have is being called racist because of the color of my skin
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Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:52:39 PM




This movement since George Floyd was killed has been great in the sense that we're addressing one of the worst parts of our history.

The worst part of OUR HISTORY was from 1861 to 1865 when they killed off 25% of the male population over the issue of ending slavery. If these MARXIST scum have their way it looks like we might have to start shooting again to straighten their asses out.
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Possum

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 02:59:07 PM
Ah, so do you agree with Mimsy? Do Blacks have no reason to bitch and moan because the Civil War ended in 1865?

Are you, too, going to minimize our history of Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizens?
You do realize you can not have this discussion without blaming the democratic party. The same democrat party who had the chance to vote for the police reform bill but did not, because they would rather have it as a campaign issue than help to solve the problem. Joe, do you get that? They could have voted to help cities with reform but they did not, they want it to campaign on. You also failed to mention L.B.J's destruction of the black family, another democrat policy. While you are at it, don't forget to mention which party blocked the civil rights bill. Damn Joe, want to have a discussion fine, but take a good hard look at history, YOU are the one trying to minimizing everything by failing to discuss which party was guilty of these actions. Are you proud of that?

Dirtbomb

Quote from: Dirtbomb on June 29, 2020, 03:56:08 PM
The only issue is the Democrats and the plantation that they continue to run

And if you don't agree with me you ain't white
The only white privilege I have is being called racist because of the color of my skin

At a time when violent radicals are attacking America and its institutions as fundamentally and irredeemably racist, Robin DiAngelo may well be the woman of the hour. A 63-year-old professor at the University of Washington in Seattle, she's a big name in multicultural education and in the burgeoning field of Whiteness Studies, which, unlike other identity-group "studies," exists not to exalt the group in question but to demonize it. In the words of National Post columnist Barbara Kay, Whiteness Studies teaches that to be white is to be "branded, literally in the flesh, with evidence of a kind of original sin. You can try to mitigate your evilness, but you can't eradicate it. The goal...is to entrench permanent race consciousness in everyone – eternal victimhood for non-whites, eternal guilt for whites."

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/06/if-youre-white-youre-racist-period-bruce-bawer/
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joesixpack

Quote from: Solar on June 29, 2020, 03:53:19 PM
Our History? That is the history of the DNC! Are you denying it has always been the left that enslaved the black family?

You do know it was always the Republican party that came to the support of blacks, be it the Civil war, or the Civil Rights Act, the DNC has always been against freeing Blacks.

It's time for you to take a Real Civics/History Class?

Yes, our history. You're an American too. Country over Party, my friend.

You continue to agree that Blacks have been enslaved in multiple ways. Like I said, the good thing about Mr. Floyd's murder is the fact that it's brought this conversation to the forefront of our society.

Major corporations are taking steps and donating funds to causes that will increase equity. Congress is working on legislation to improve policing nationwide, States and cities are taking down statues and revising their policing methods, even Mississippi is updating their flag, etc.

There seems to be an acceleration in the movement towards equity for Blacks.



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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

joesixpack

Quote from: Possum on June 29, 2020, 04:11:44 PM
You do realize you can not have this discussion without blaming the democratic party. The same democrat party who had the chance to vote for the police reform bill but did not, because they would rather have it as a campaign issue than help to solve the problem. Joe, do you get that? They could have voted to help cities with reform but they did not, they want it to campaign on. You also failed to mention L.B.J's destruction of the black family, another democrat policy. While you are at it, don't forget to mention which party blocked the civil rights bill. Damn Joe, want to have a discussion fine, but take a good hard look at history, YOU are the one trying to minimizing everything by failing to discuss which party was guilty of these actions. Are you proud of that?

Of course. Democrats have a terrible history.

That doesn't change my position, though.

imo, Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans around 1970.

That's a shame.

What I'm proud of is our collective reaction to Mr. Floyd's murder and the movement that seems to have ignited in this country to address our history with Black Americans.
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Frenchconnection on June 29, 2020, 08:43:42 AM
Whoa, easy cowboy, cease fire.  understand what I was referencing.


You haven't earned a cease fire yet, coz your referencing this hotep guy infers my post was somewhere in tune with this nutjob who sounds like a cross between Farrakhan and The whacked out Reverend Wright.

Since you seem to be so dense let me spell it out for you so you can better understand.

My Motivation to refute all this crap about how "evil" America is because of slavery is that degenerate who calls himself our Virginia Senator; Timmy the boy Kaine, who recently stated that America created  slavery

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/democrat-senator-tim-kaine-us-didnt-inherit-slavery-anybody-created-video/
I was trying to point out how Slavery is one of mankinds oldest and most established practises.  No one race, no country ethic group is exempt from its past history.

Especially the Native Americans who still practised this AFTER the civil war.  Slavery existed in what would become know as  American long before the first European set foot on it. Blacks had nothing to do with such nor the moors or whomever nutbag Hotep or Idiot Kaine claim.

Man being the warlike and murderous creature he is bears the responsibility. Stronger tribes raid and conquer weaker tribes and seize captives and make them slaves....simple.  So it was on the African continent as it was in the America's and among the Toltecs, Aztecs and Inca's as well as the Mohawk, the Apache and the Cheyenne. All well documented in Historical account and record....not the product of some lunatics demented blatering.



Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Possum

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 04:25:50 PM
Yes, our history. You're an American too. Country over Party, my friend.

You continue to agree that Blacks have been enslaved in multiple ways. Like I said, the good thing about Mr. Floyd's murder is the fact that it's brought this conversation to the forefront of our society.

Major corporations are taking steps and donating funds to causes that will increase equity. Congress is working on legislation to improve policing nationwide, States and cities are taking down statues and revising their policing methods, even Mississippi is updating their flag, etc.

There seems to be an acceleration in the movement towards equity for Blacks.
You are insinuating that both parties were guilty, they were not. Look at history and it is very plain which party was trying to keep racism alive. To not acknowledge that is lying to your self and to others. To fix a problem there needs to be open honest discussion, you liberals are not capable of that.

joesixpack

Quote from: Possum on June 29, 2020, 04:43:41 PM
You are insinuating that both parties were guilty, they were not. Look at history and it is very plain which party was trying to keep racism alive. To not acknowledge that is lying to your self and to others. To fix a problem there needs to be open honest discussion, you liberals are not capable of that.

No. I'm not insinuating that. Please don't address me as a partisan. I don't identify with a political party. George Washington warned us about that.

I'm glad that you, too, view the American experience of Blacks as a problem.

Imo, compromise after compromise, in our history, has helped doom the Black experience in America.

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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative