Just a few thoughts...

1525 the slave trade began in North America, becoming entrenched in the economy as deep as tea, tobacco, and cotton.

250 years later the colonies declared independence from Britain, finally forming a government Sept. 17 1787.

Even though slavery was a huge part of the economy, especially in the South, this new country chose to abolish the use of slaves 70 years later.  This, of course, was done by White men, and pit brother against brother in some cases. 

Today Blacks enjoy full rights that Whites do.  This does not deny predjudice, but we've made a lot of progress in spite of the Democrats efforts to hold them back.  I think we can pause a moment and give thanks for the courage of our fathers before us.

Quote from: Frenchconnection on June 27, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Just a few thoughts...

1525 the slave trade began in North America, becoming entrenched in the economy as deep as tea, tobacco, and cotton.

250 years later the colonies declared independence from Britain, finally forming a government Sept. 17 1787.

Even though slavery was a huge part of the economy, especially in the South, this new country chose to abolish the use of slaves 70 years later.  This, of course, was done by White men, and pit brother against brother in some cases. 

Today Blacks enjoy full rights that Whites do.  This does not deny predjudice, but we've made a lot of progress in spite of the Democrats efforts to hold them back.  I think we can pause a moment and give thanks for the courage of our fathers before us.

For a person who grew up in the South during the 50's, it is tremendous progress. I never went to an integrated school through HS and saw the abomination of segregation. The progress is so gratifying to me.However, too many of our citizens do not understand the concept of equal opportunity and not guaranteed outcome. Socialism has a guaranteed outcome.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 27, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
For a person who grew up in the South during the 50's, it is tremendous progress. I never went to an integrated school through HS and saw the abomination of segregation. The progress is so gratifying to me.However, too many of our citizens do not understand the concept of equal opportunity and not guaranteed outcome. Socialism has a guaranteed outcome.

History is in the past and cannot be changed. It is what it was. At this point in time and for a long time in the US slavery is history. Demonrats will always be a devisive victim religion. Until people accept the fact that we are all AMERICANS no matter the color of our skin or where our ancestors came from nothing will change. So many people worship Martin Luther King Jr. but they have no idea why other than he was a man with dark skin. They don't practice what he was trying to teach.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 27, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
For a person who grew up in the South during the 50's, it is tremendous progress. I never went to an integrated school through HS and saw the abomination of segregation. The progress is so gratifying to me.However, too many of our citizens do not understand the concept of equal opportunity and not guaranteed outcome. Socialism has a guaranteed outcome.

Aside from the obvious fact that an overwhelming majority of whites were against forced desegregation, do you think all black community leaders were for forced desegregation?
I can tell you they were not.
I went to public HS in the early 70s and just a couple of years prior, the particular school I attended had a recent history of being like a war zone - race rioting. I graduated from that school and had far more friendships with blacks than whites. And this was during a time when the Black -P. Stone Nation was in power... some of whom I befriended. I learned then that when genuine friendships developed, all the race BS fell by the wayside. In fact, we'd all tell racial jokes that would crack us up. 'Being comfortable in your own skin', as the saying goes, is what it takes to develop true friendships. Trying to be some one you are not will bite you in the ass in the end. No one likes or respects a phony, regardless of skin color.

I do believe racism would not even be talked about if not for the democrats keeping it alive. The reason no democrats voted for the police reform bill is because this is a campaign issue for then, a way to raise money, not a problem that needs to be solved.

Quote from: Possum on June 27, 2020, 04:49:58 PM
I do believe racism would not even be talked about if not for the democrats keeping it alive. The reason no democrats voted for the police reform bill is because this is a campaign issue for then, a way to raise money, not a problem that needs to be solved.

Like the breast cancer donation industry, there will always be breast cancer, because a cure will kill an entire industry leech. The Dim party is that cancerous entity, they bleed the ignorant, and as long as there is money to be made, there will always be some form of division to capitalize on.

Quote from: Frenchconnection on June 27, 2020, 10:26:40 AM
Just a few thoughts...

1525 the slave trade began in North America, becoming entrenched in the economy as deep as tea, tobacco, and cotton.

250 years later the colonies declared independence from Britain, finally forming a government Sept. 17 1787.

Even though slavery was a huge part of the economy, especially in the South, this new country chose to abolish the use of slaves 70 years later.  This, of course, was done by White men, and pit brother against brother in some cases. 

Today Blacks enjoy full rights that Whites do.  This does not deny predjudice, but we've made a lot of progress in spite of the Democrats efforts to hold them back.  I think we can pause a moment and give thanks for the courage of our fathers before us.

The slave TRADE may have began in America by European colonists but the practise of slavery was well established by the Native americans who inhabited this country. The so called "Civilizations" of Meso America practised slavery and human sacrifice which apalled the Spainards.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 27, 2020, 06:26:20 PM

The slave TRADE may have began in America by European colonists but the practise of slavery was well established by the Native americans who inhabited this country. The so called "Civilizations" of Meso America practised slavery and human sacrifice which apalled the Spainards.

Been listening to Hotep Jesus?

Here's slavery in American you are not told much about. The Indians keeping slaves and trading in slaves. Olive Oatman's family were mostly killed, the kids then became slaves. How about some reparations for that? Lots of Indians had tattoos like this because it was a mark of slavery. Here sister died of starvation.

The only reason they keep bringing up slavery in the South is to agitate anti-Americanism. If it was really about slavery, they would bring this up too.

Quote from: Possum on June 27, 2020, 04:49:58 PM
I do believe racism would not even be talked about if not for the democrats keeping it alive. The reason no democrats voted for the police reform bill is because this is a campaign issue for then, a way to raise money, not a problem that needs to be solved.

More importantly, IMO, it is a topic of conversation that requires a forceful and direct rebuttal - refutation that 'pulls no punches!
Tell me, do you know of a conservative politician that Democrats fear will step up and confront them sufficiently about their race-baiting tactics for all America to see?  Neither do they. 

Quote from: Frenchconnection on June 28, 2020, 10:17:35 AM
Been listening to Hotep Jesus?

Who is the hell is "Hotep Jesus"?.....I get my informatino from historical books, you should try reading such sometime, you might learn something

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on June 28, 2020, 07:07:35 PM

Who is the hell is "Hotep Jesus"?.....I get my informatino from historical books, you should try reading such sometime, you might learn something

Whoa, easy cowboy, cease fire.  Here's a link to Hotep Jesus for you to understand what I was referencing.

Some from the link:

QuoteHe also claimed that black people were natives of America and were not brought over on slave ships, claiming that Africans from the Malian Empire had migrated along the ocean current to South America and North America during the 13th and 14th centuries. He also asked why schools did not teach students about black slaveowners (claiming that Native Americans were actually blacks); he also argued that it was not economically sound to argue that the majority of African-Americans were descended from slaves, believing that the majority of blacks were already in the Americas. He also said that he did not believe that Africans were brought over on slave ships, believing that the native (black) peoples on the Americas were slowly conquered from coast to coast and were gradually wiped out. Hotep Jesus also claimed that ancestry websites were inaccurate, as he refused to be classified by a European name such as "Angolan" or "Kenyan". He also claimed that saying that white people brought African slaves to America connoted that Africans could not have discovered America themselves and built their own boats; he believed that accepting the Atlantic slave trade meant erasing black achievement. While Rogan accepted that the Olmecs had African physical features, he questioned Hotep Jesus's logic in claiming that Africans made up the vast majority of native peoples.

Hotep Jesus then claimed that Rome was dependent on Africa for food, that the African Moors brought etiquette and running water to Europe (and told the native Spanish not to sleep in the barns with their animals), saved the white race from the Black Plague, and thus claimed that the Africans were superior enough to travel the globe as the source of food. He also insulted the Roman Empire as a "rudimentary" civilization and claimed that the Greek world looked up to Ancient Egypt as superior. He also claimed that, if Ancient Egypt had boats "before Europe was literate", they could have come to America and "set up shop"; he also used the Olmec heads to show the possibility that the Africans settled the Americas, believed that the serpent mound and the supposedly Egyptian artifacts found in Ohio and the discovery of Egyptian gold in the Grand Canyon signified Egyptian settlement there.

The end of the civil war ended in 1865, 154 years later and blacks are still bitching and moaning.   

Quote from: Mimsy on June 29, 2020, 09:58:49 AM
The end of the civil war ended in 1865, 154 years later and blacks are still bitching and moaning.   

So are you just going to ignore Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizen?

I'd say Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans around 1970

Quote from: joesixpack on June 29, 2020, 01:12:09 PM
So are you just going to ignore Jim Crow/Black Codes, constant lynchings, massacres, vote suppression, segregation, and systemic treatment as a 2nd class citizen?

I'd say Blacks were somewhat allowed to be Americans around 1970

Gee, and which party do you suppose was responsible for all of that?