Joe butt packed,

Well then by all means let me show you some respect FO you you little twerp and the horse you rode in on

BWAHAHAHA LAUGHTER

I love that.  He wants you to be respectful to him while he plots and supports the eventual enslavement and probable genocide  of this nation and citizens to Marxist/socialist asshole progressive globalist radicals.

BE NICE YOU..PUT ON THAT MASK and GET ON THAT CATTLE CAR. 

Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 02, 2020, 06:50:58 PM
I love that.  He wants you to be respectful to him while he plots and supports the eventual enslavement and probable genocide  of this nation and citizens to Marxist/socialist asshole progressive globalist radicals.

BE NICE YOU..PUT ON THAT MASK and GET ON THAT CATTLE CAR.

Yeah he's so stupid he doesn't realize that nobody respects him. Just because people are not an asshole like me doesn't equate to respect.

here's their idea.   Here's what they want.   Demowhack candidate says, 'Report Trump Supporters'.    Report them to whom???  the police?  they're defunding police...that leaves...who?  Antifa?  blm?  democrat special star chamber for conservative haters/trump deplorables? Minneapolis islamists??...the beheading division of the democrat party.   Read Revelation?   

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/democrat-congressional-candidate-report-trump-supporters.php

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:47:13 PM
We can't change who we've been. It is what it is. We can only reconcile with our original sin of Slavery. Which we're still doing, and I'm encouraging.

And I'm referring to positive legislative energy. It seems that both parties want to do things to progress., i.e. Police Reform.

Just according to us. Americans. Our principals. That All Men Are Created Equal and that this is the Land of Opportunity and that we can pursue Life, Liberty and Happiness

What's this we shit? No one alive today owned slaves!

I'm just astonished at his view of History.
He says we as a nation, lumping everybody together not seeming to realize that there were two sides to the slavery issue. He doesn't want to acknowledge that not everyone in this country supported slavery. And not everyone in this country owned slaves. But at the same time he believes that all people should pay reparations. It's just an ignorant position. God decided a long time ago that the sons would no longer be responsible for the sins of the fathers, and the father's would no longer be responsible for the sins of the sons. Yet he thinks he knows better than God This country was never not divided. not everyone then, and none now, are responsible for slavery.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:15:47 PM
If the agenda is Police Reform and his death was enough to get both parties to the negotiating table, it's a positive aspect from a negative situation.

It seems that we as Americans are finally trying to address our past, including how that past affects our present. These are good things.

Justice for all is a good thing.

But the republicans had a bill, the democrats would not even discuss it. The bill gave the democrats 80% of what they were asking for, they would not even vote. The democrats see this as a campaign issue and are not looking for ways to get this solved. Using a dead man to get votes is pretty disgusting, don't you agree?

I propose a Bill be drawn up, that all Dims must pay reparations.

Hey, it's only fair, the Right has always been against slavery, even to date, no right winger owns a slave.
So it's only fair the party that perpetrated the abomination of slavery, finally pay what they owe for keeping blacks locked on the Marxist plantation to this very day.

Joe, I think everyone here wants a color blind society that treats all Americans equally. However, there is a difference between pandering to make one feel good and making actual substantive changes. Most Democrats/Liberals I know give great lip service to justice but have no idea about how to go about creating it. Talking just won't get it done and neither will demonizing people who have a different way of going about it.BLM and Antifa are communistic organizations that do not seek to improve the system, it is to destroy the system and those who support it, and create one in the image developed by Karl Marx

Quote from: MichaelJ on July 03, 2020, 10:14:25 AM
Joe, I think everyone here wants a color blind society that treats all Americans equally. However, there is a difference between pandering to make one feel good and making actual substantive changes. Most Democrats/Liberals I know give great lip service to justice but have no idea about how to go about creating it. Talking just won't get it done and neither will demonizing people who have a different way of going about it.BLM and Antifa are communistic organizations that do not seek to improve the system, it is to destroy the system and those who support it, and create one in the image developed by Karl Marx

They don't want the problem solved, they see their strength comes from a divided society. Don't believe it? Look at how the liberals treat a conservative black. 

Quote from: Possum on July 03, 2020, 03:56:37 AM
But the republicans had a bill, the democrats would not even discuss it. The bill gave the democrats 80% of what they were asking for, they would not even vote. The democrats see this as a campaign issue and are not looking for ways to get this solved. Using a dead man to get votes is pretty disgusting, don't you agree?

It would be except that the Democrats passed a Police Reform bill.

Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 02, 2020, 07:20:33 PM
I'm just astonished at his view of History.
He says we as a nation, lumping everybody together not seeming to realize that there were two sides to the slavery issue. He doesn't want to acknowledge that not everyone in this country supported slavery. And not everyone in this country owned slaves. But at the same time he believes that all people should pay reparations. It's just an ignorant position. God decided a long time ago that the sons would no longer be responsible for the sins of the fathers, and the father's would no longer be responsible for the sins of the sons. Yet he thinks he knows better than God This country was never not divided. not everyone then, and none now, are responsible for slavery.

Not everyone supported slavery. Not everyone owned slaves. But collectively we have to deal with it because our American history reflects on our American lives today.

We don't live in a vacuum

Quote from: Solar on July 02, 2020, 07:07:01 PM
What's this we shit? No one alive today owned slaves!

No, but it's our American history. We still have to deal with it.

Quote from: Solar on July 03, 2020, 04:08:39 AM
I propose a Bill be drawn up, that all Dims must pay reparations.

Hey, it's only fair, the Right has always been against slavery, even to date, no right winger owns a slave.
So it's only fair the party that perpetrated the abomination of slavery, finally pay what they owe for keeping blacks locked on the Marxist plantation to this very day.

Hmm...not a terrible idea. I'd change that instead of repaying by Party, which is sloppy, the States of the former Confederacy should be made to pay.  It makes more logical sense since they lost the war to keep Slavery and were the ones to vote against almost every Civil Rights legislation.

Quote from: MichaelJ on July 03, 2020, 10:14:25 AM
Joe, I think everyone here wants a color blind society that treats all Americans equally. However, there is a difference between pandering to make one feel good and making actual substantive changes. Most Democrats/Liberals I know give great lip service to justice but have no idea about how to go about creating it. Talking just won't get it done and neither will demonizing people who have a different way of going about it.BLM and Antifa are communistic organizations that do not seek to improve the system, it is to destroy the system and those who support it, and create one in the image developed by Karl Marx

I don't disagree.

For the sake of this thread, what are some substantive changes/ideas that you may have or support?