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Offline TowardLiberty

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2012, 07:05:20 AM »
Rather than limiting the vote, which is never going to happen, I would rather see government programs become voluntary.

If you like big government, choose the policy you like, pay for it and all is well.

If you dont want to be a part of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the drug war, the war on terror.. etc, then you should be able to "opt out."

This gets around the issue of people being forced to pay for things they dont want.

Politics would become rational, like shopping for groceries.
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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2012, 07:10:22 AM »
I think they absolutely should be allowed to vote. We have no right to deprive them of their right to vote just because they benefit from government money. If we did that, half of the people in this country could not vote......

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2012, 07:12:39 AM »
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But wait!  We can do this both ways: obviously, religious leaders would vote for the candidate that wants to give  religion more authority in the state.  So they should not be allowed to vote.  Nor should big bankers, for obvious reasons.

Correct. Big bankers and religious leader that work within government and draw a government paycheck, should not be able to vote to increase the influence of the government.

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2012, 07:18:43 AM »
I think they absolutely should be allowed to vote. We have no right to deprive them of their right to vote just because they benefit from government money. If we did that, half of the people in this country could not vote......

I'm just being the devil's advocate here..........

So, lets say that government continues to expand and the private sector continues to shrink. Lets say that 50 years from now, the people on the government payroll have a commanding majority in all votes. Wouldn't we have become a country, of the government, for the government?

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2012, 11:15:53 AM »
I'm just being the devil's advocate here..........

So, lets say that government continues to expand and the private sector continues to shrink. Lets say that 50 years from now, the people on the government payroll have a commanding majority in all votes. Wouldn't we have become a country, of the government, for the government?


Hmm... 25% would be working taxpayer and 75% would be on the government payroll in one way of the other.  I can see utopia now.   :rolleyes:
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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2012, 11:33:16 AM »
I agree that federal unions should be outlawed.

But denying them suffrage is voter suppression at its absolute worst; and now, you're not even trying to hide it.  By that logic, women should not be allowed to vote because they tend to lean Left.  Neither should minorities, or scientists, or intellectuals, or gays.

But wait!  We can do this both ways: obviously, religious leaders would vote for the candidate that wants to give  religion more authority in the state.  So they should not be allowed to vote.  Nor should big bankers, for obvious reasons.

Indeed, I've heard the claim that wellfare recipients should not be allowed to vote before.  The biggest welfare recipients in history are the big bankers in the recent bailout.  Or is it OK to get billions of dollars for your own crimes if you're rich?   :rolleyes:
Intriguing. Most liberals believe that society should be run by elites, because only they have the "intelligence" to make the "correct" decisions for the welfare of all. On the other hand they want everyone to vote, even when those who do vote are often voting for their own selfish gain, especially when they support programs they gain from - but don't have to pay for.
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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2012, 11:37:11 AM »
Intriguing. Most liberals believe that society should be run by elites, because only they have the "intelligence" to make the "correct" decisions for the welfare of all.

Is it wrong to want the president to be well educated, and not a community college graduate with a communications degree?

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On the other hand they want everyone to vote, even when those who do vote are often voting for their own selfish gain, especially when they support programs they gain from - but don't have to pay for.

You want the opposite: rich people to vote (although not necessarily smart people), but morons like Sarah Palin to hold high office.

Representatives are supposed to be smarter than average Americans.  Otherwise, they have no place ruling them.

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2012, 01:33:24 PM »
Question:  Why is Mrs. Palin a moron?
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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2012, 01:40:04 PM »
Question:  Why is Mrs. Palin a moron?

Not to butt in, but scifi is having another bad day.................he tends to lash out sometimes. That's what liberals do when they are on the losing end of multiple debates. :rolleyes:

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2012, 01:45:16 PM »
Is it wrong to want the president to be well educated, and not a community college graduate with a communications degree?
We managed pretty well with a self educated laborers son out of Illinois.
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You want the opposite: rich people to vote (although not necessarily smart people), but morons like Sarah Palin to hold high office.
Representatives are supposed to be smarter than average Americans.  Otherwise, they have no place ruling them.
They're not supposed to be RULING us, they're supposed to be REPRESENTING us. The fact that you make that mistake says, all we need to know about what's wrong with the left.
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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2012, 01:48:03 PM »
We managed pretty well with a self educated laborers son out of Illinois.They're not supposed to be RULING us, they're supposed to be REPRESENTING us. The fact that you make that mistake says, all we need to know about what's wrong with the left.

 Man. He walked himself right into that one. :lol:

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2012, 02:08:50 PM »
We managed pretty well with a self educated laborers son out of Illinois.

Are you under the impression that self education doesn't count?  Has Sarah Palin taught herself anything?  She couldn't even name a single supreme court decision other than Roe v Wade that she disagreed with...but thinks herself an expert on law.   :rolleyes:

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They're not supposed to be RULING us, they're supposed to be REPRESENTING us. The fact that you make that mistake says, all we need to know about what's wrong with the left.

Ooohhhh, semantics whoring, are we?  Fine.  People who represent us are supposed to be the cream of the crop, not a hockey mom who makes up words.

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2012, 02:09:43 PM »
Meanwhile back at who of the Federal government employees are doing their job....


The Federal Gov't was mostly shut down because of Hurricane Sandy .

This group of federal employees still went to the office .



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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2012, 02:33:32 PM »
Are you under the impression that self education doesn't count?  Has Sarah Palin taught herself anything?  She couldn't even name a single supreme court decision other than Roe v Wade that she disagreed with...but thinks herself an expert on law.   :rolleyes:

Ooohhhh, semantics whoring, are we?  Fine.  People who represent us are supposed to be the cream of the crop, not a hockey mom who makes up words.

Last I checked, "corpesman" does not exist.  Oh right, that was the TOTUS' fault.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2012, 02:37:22 PM »
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People who represent us are supposed to be the cream of the crop, not a hockey mom who makes up words.

She's a GOVERNOR.

Tell us again about Obama's qualifications

 

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