Should Government Employees Be Allowed To Vote?

Started by kramarat, November 10, 2012, 06:46:59 AM

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kramarat

We've got a total of over 22 million state and federal government workers. My guess is that they vote for the party that promises to grow government and give them more money. The bulk of them are unionized.

http://www.businessinsider.com/look-how-many-government-workers-weve-fired-since-2009-2012-6

Here's my point. Whenever a private company holds a contest, it is forbidden by law for the employees of that company to participate. The reason is obvious. It prevents the employees of that company from influencing the outcome of the contest, or skewing the results to benefit a family member, etc. In fact, the family members of company employees are also forbidden from entering the contests.

Why should we allow 22 million people that work within the company and have a vested interest in a democrat outcome, to participate in political contests? The very same government has made it illegal in the private sector, because they know it is not fair.

a777pilot

Vote?  Yes.  I do not see the day when our military would be refused the right to even try to vote.

However, I see no reason for any government worker to be allowed to have a public sector union.  Now that's a bit much.
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Yawn

NO!  I don't consider the military "government employees" in the traditional way.

I'd move the voting age up to 30.  We already know until about age 25, the brain isn't fully developed in the judgment centers. Source

kramarat

I'm not including our military. They will tend to vote for country. I'm talking about the swelling ranks of civilian employees.

My sister in law recenty went from the private sector to a state job. She told me that the hardest thing to get used to, was not doing much during the day.

For now she is voting republican/conservative. But can I really expect her to continue that? Why would anyone that is making a nice living in government, vote for someone that promises to slash it? They wouldn't. It would be career suicide.

kramarat

Lets face it. The limited government that was envisioned by the founders is long gone. The government itself has become so large that they have a very real impact on our state and national elections.

22 million government workers. Romney lost by less than 2 million votes.

JustKari

It will get worse before it gets better.  The government will add more government jobs to prop the jobs numbers in their favor.  They have to make sure their base has something to be happy about.  If all these employers are laying people off or going part-time, I wouldn't expect lower unemployment rates anytime soon.

a777pilot

Quote from: kramarat on November 10, 2012, 08:12:44 AM

Romney lost by less than 2 million votes.

That's sad.

If only the same number of votes that voted for McCain had voted for Romney, he, Romney would be our new and improved President.

But, noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Romney was not conservative enough.

Idiots.
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kramarat

Quote from: a777pilot on November 10, 2012, 08:45:19 AM
That's sad.

If only the same number of votes that voted for McCain had voted for Romney, he, Romney would be our new and improved President.

But, noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Romney was not conservative enough.

Idiots.

Yep. We had a presidential candidate that is an undisputed expert on business, saved a doomed olympics, didn't take a salary as governor, donated his olympic salary to charity........................and a vice presidential candidate that is an undisputed expert on government fiscal policy, spending, waste, etc.

And we told them both to take a hike. We want a community organizer. :cry:

Travis Bickle

No, to the original question.

However.... raise the age to be allowed to vote to 21, excluding military.

kramarat

Quote from: Travis Bickle on November 10, 2012, 08:56:36 AM
No, to the original question.

However.... raise the age to be allowed to vote to 21, excluding military.

So it's okay to have a government that is unionized and 22 million strong, to always vote for the presidential candidate that promises to grow government? Seems a little lopsided to me.

Not surprising that Obama got a second term. We will likely see a democrat win in 2016 too.

I look at government workers as government dependents. Not that none of them work hard for their money, but it all comes out of the private sector. Add in the welfare, foodstamp, medicaid recipients, and we're getting into some real numbers..........all voting democrat. How can we ever win?

kramarat

47 million on foodstamps.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/report-15-americans-food-stamps-980690

Over 100 million total on some sort of welfare.

http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2012/08/10/welfare/
22 million working for government.

Romney ran on cutting government and government spending, and lost by less than 2 million votes. We will never again be a conservative nation as long as democrats are able to keep their thumbs on the scales of dependency, which leads to votes. They have won. Probably forever. There is no republican strategy that will ever overcome it.

a777pilot

Sure there is.  Let the Democrat National Socialist experiment take its course to failure.  Then what's remaining of the old USA can be put back together.......hopefully.
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Chief Brett

I am a federal government worker and a retired Navy Chief Petty Officer.  I did not vote for President Obama.  Even though politically I saw little difference in either candidate, I voted for the man that most reflected my personal values and beliefs.  I think that once you get outside of the beltway federal government workers are much more conservative than you think.  My state (Indiana) and my district (8th) moved farther away from the liberals, and the workers at my base reflect that.

kramarat

Quote from: a777pilot on November 10, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Sure there is.  Let the Democrat National Socialist experiment take its course to failure.  Then what's remaining of the old USA can be put back together.......hopefully.

We're watching that unfold in Greece. Unfortunately, the people, (mostly government workers), that have become accustomed to the easy life, are not only unwilling to help rebuild, they are unwilling to give up anything that they currenly have............almost to the point of rioting. That's the problem. It's the liberals that get violent when they don't get their way........not the conservatives. I believe that they would prefer to burn our cities to the ground, before giving up entitlements.

mdgiles

Quote from: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 07:14:33 AM
NO!  I don't consider the military "government employees" in the traditional way.

I'd move the voting age up to 30.  We already know until about age 25, the brain isn't fully developed in the judgment centers. Source
No, make it 25 - that's the age you can get elected to the House. It's also about the age your auto insurance starts to go down. Maybe they know something. I remember when I was 18, I was stupid - and I was in the infantry, in a combat zone.
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