Quote from: taxed on October 30, 2019, 02:59:10 PM
Oh yeah.........................  Mountainshield...

That's him! I'll email him.

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 03:09:43 PM
That sounds so good to me right now hah, and my husband could get a real job too. That would be nice. Here is doesnt matter how many years you work as a nurse, you get a max of 60 000 dollars. Even after like 15 years. And you dont tend to get overtime, its to expensive for the employer (since healthcare is socialized they tend to want to spend as little money as possible, unless its for like fancy massage chairs there is plenty of room in the budget for such nonsense)

I don't know how it is there, but if you have a skill in the US, you're better off going into business for yourself. Here, a private nurse can make a killing, and your husband? Well, he probably already knows what he can do being a private entrepreneur.

Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2019, 03:37:03 PM
I don't know how it is there, but if you have a skill in the US, you're better off going into business for yourself. Here, a private nurse can make a killing, and your husband? Well, he probably already knows what he can do being a private entrepreneur.

I dont know too many people opening up their own bussineses here tbh, if run a bussiness its mostly part of a large chain

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 03:54:26 PM
I dont know too many people opening up their own bussineses here tbh, if run a bussiness its mostly part of a large chain

So a gardening service or handyman can't just start a business and go at it on their own?

Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
So a gardening service or handyman can't just start a business and go at it on their own?

It does happen its not impossible, its just not very common. I dont know why that is exactly as I havent looked into how hard or difficult it is to open up  a business here. I just register that I see a lot of chains, not so many small stores. The exeption being Oslo (our capital). Lots of foreigners there. So I dont know if its foreigners being more into starting their own business, or they start it cause they cant get a job, or its a larger city with more customers or what is the exact reason. Im in nursing, nurses dont start their own businesses :P

This is fascinating.

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM
It does happen its not impossible, its just not very common. I dont know why that is exactly as I havent looked into how or difficult it is to open up  a business here. I just register that I see a lot of chains, not so many small stores. The exeption being Oslo (our capital). Lots of foreigners there. So I dont know if its foreigners being more into starting their own business, or they start it cause they cant get a job, or its a larger city with more customers or what is the exact reason. Im in nursing, nurses dont start their own businesses :P

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM
It does happen its not impossible, its just not very common. I dont know why that is exactly as I havent looked into how hard or difficult it is to open up  a business here. I just register that I see a lot of chains, not so many small stores. The exeption being Oslo (our capital). Lots of foreigners there. So I dont know if its foreigners being more into starting their own business, or they start it cause they cant get a job, or its a larger city with more customers or what is the exact reason. Im in nursing, nurses dont start their own businesses :P

So a carpenter can't just run an ad in the local paper advertising his skills for home repair, or a licensed nurse advertise for in home care for the elderly?

Years ago when I was building my own home, all by myself, the neighbor had relatives visiting from Germany, the whole family walked by and glared at me, I waved, they just glared.
I asked the neighbor what their problem was, he said that in Germany no one but licensed craftsman are allowed to build, that it is illegal to do the work yourself, because you are stealing work from other people.

What stupid people, as if doing for yourself is somehow evil.

The entire concept is foreign here, in the US people are encouraged to do for themselves, it's part of the American way, the pioneer spirit of conquering ones domain.

When I found out why they were so angry, I said let me talk to them, I'll straighten them out. He said why, they already hate Americans, there's no changing their mind.

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM
It does happen its not impossible, its just not very common. I dont know why that is exactly as I havent looked into how hard or difficult it is to open up  a business here. I just register that I see a lot of chains, not so many small stores. The exeption being Oslo (our capital). Lots of foreigners there. So I dont know if its foreigners being more into starting their own business, or they start it cause they cant get a job, or its a larger city with more customers or what is the exact reason. Im in nursing, nurses dont start their own businesses :P

I saw that living and traveling in Europe. Taxes are complicated and employee costs are ridiculous. We had a European factories in Holland, Belgium , Norway and the UK. We closed the one in Oslo because of the employment costs and laws. We also sold the one in Belgium because it was the worst possible place to ever have an employee and sourced everything out to Eastern Europe. Before Trump, that was exactly what we were doing in the USA.

Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2019, 08:03:59 PM
So a carpenter can't just run an ad in the local paper advertising his skills for home repair, or a licensed nurse advertise for in home care for the elderly?

Years ago when I was building my own home, all by myself, the neighbor had relatives visiting from Germany, the whole family walked by and glared at me, I waved, they just glared.
I asked the neighbor what their problem was, he said that in Germany no one but licensed craftsman are allowed to build, that it is illegal to do the work yourself, because you are stealing work from other people.

What stupid people, as if doing for yourself is somehow evil.

The entire concept is foreign here, in the US people are encouraged to do for themselves, it's part of the American way, the pioneer spirit of conquering ones domain.

When I found out why they were so angry, I said let me talk to them, I'll straighten them out. He said why, they already hate Americans, there's no changing their mind.

A carpenter has to have training through 2 years theory in high school then two years training in a business. So Even if you Are very good you arent allowed, no. No nurse owns a private business here. You always work for someone else. There Are a few private healthcare serives around but most cant afford those so its a very small marked.

Quote from: carolina73 on October 30, 2019, 08:37:06 PM
I saw that living and traveling in Europe. Taxes are complicated and employee costs are ridiculous. We had a European factories in Holland, Belgium , Norway and the UK. We closed the one in Oslo because of the employment costs and laws. We also sold the one in Belgium because it was the worst possible place to ever have an employee and sourced everything out to Eastern Europe. Before Trump, that was exactly what we were doing in the USA.

Yeah Its not good for business. A lot of Jobs in this country is through the government. I think like 30-40% but dont qote me on that cause I cant quite remember

The Jobs dont pay particularly well . Did you know btw that every single Norwegian person ends up costing more than what we collect through taxes? In part cause our budget is HUGE and there is lots of waste, but also due to like sick leave pay , parental leave etc. And its not gonna get better. Norwegians Arent having kids. Its like down to 1.6 children per woman no. My generation is full of people not having kids. How Are we gonna keep up this spending?

Quote from: taxed on October 30, 2019, 02:59:10 PM
Oh yeah.........................  Mountainshield...

Thanks

Quote from: AmericanLovingNorwegian on October 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM
It does happen its not impossible, its just not very common. I dont know why that is exactly as I havent looked into how hard or difficult it is to open up  a business here. I just register that I see a lot of chains, not so many small stores. The exeption being Oslo (our capital). Lots of foreigners there. So I dont know if its foreigners being more into starting their own business, or they start it cause they cant get a job, or its a larger city with more customers or what is the exact reason. Im in nursing, nurses dont start their own businesses :P

I would venture some of it is because most of your fellow citizens have bought into the idea the government will take care of everything. That is what we are fighting here in the US right now.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 31, 2019, 05:35:30 AM
I would venture some of it is because most of your fellow citizens have bought into the idea the government will take care of everything. That is what we are fighting here in the US right now.

I used to think so too, I was raised that way. Fighting that battle in this country now is useless. People dont see that this is a ticking time bomb. Increasing social spending, less taxpayers (since no one is having children), Norwegians having record high consumer debt... Either we have to raise taxes or cut spending. If we tax people any more all buying power will be gone.  I dont really make a lot but I get taxed at like 32%... As I said, if I left my husband those taxes would be cut a lot  creating incentives for people to be single moms is not good for society. If they get to be taxed that little, with the same income as us, we should be taxed less too. Or neither of us.

Another WONDERFUL thing about our country, that is a bit more trivial but I think most Americans would hate, the grocery stores.  They are untidy, several cuts of meat cant even be found (short ribs), its expensive (a walmart quality steak is like 20 bucks) and service is usually awful. It is everywhere. My husband called his doctors office for directions"google it" was their answer. RUDE

A less trivial thing: abortions are not only seen as moral and totally not a big deal at all here (apart from by our christian party which is small), its entirely taxpayer funded. But at least they let us nurses not participate in the procedure if we work in the hospital (the exepction being the gyno ward, but just dont work there I guess)

Seriously I could go on for days, maybe I should start a blog haha