So I don't know any conservatives atm and I am curious as to what you all think. So when Trump and to what seems like a relatively substantial group of folks on the web, seem to be saying is that white men are to be scared because of the threat of false accusations or at least that's what I understand that to be, but the numbers don't add up to prompt such a scare. Let me share what I've been able to find statistically:
1 in 5 women will experience sexual assault and 1 in 71 of men will; in 91% of sexual assault cases the victims are women; 81% of women experienced long term PTSD from their assaults, hence men is 35%; 96% of child molestors are men; and only 2%-10% of accusations are false across the board. So why does this fear seem so confounded and honestly ridiculous to me? What real reason does anyone have to be fighting for something that has no legit bases or really isn't in any way a growing problem in comparison to the numbers?
First off, just so you know, this post will be moved to MSM Distraction forum above.
Secondly, this is a leftist tactic of Divide and Conquer, by claiming women are victims, despite reality, but for them perception is all that matters.
So to be honest, there is no real problem, men and women are different, we deal with issues differently and the normal majority go about the chore of living their lives.
Your best answer? Is ignore the left, don't entertain their idiocy and laugh at them when they regurgitate this bullshit.
As a white male in his twenties living in a very liberal city I do not subscribe to this belief. I've been hearing these talk from the left for months now, and I do not subscribe to it. I have always been under the belief that those saying's are nothing more then scare tactics. It is certainly scary in todays word in the stance that it is possible for it to happen, but I don't engage in bad behavior nor put myself in situations that would lead to something like that. Solar nade a great point. Just ignore it. I go about my life and don't worry about what they have to say.
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2018, 03:51:08 PM
Secondly, this is a leftist tactic of Divide and Conquer, by claiming women are victims, despite reality, but for them perception is all that matters.
Some men and women are indeed victims of sexual violence. What do you think the reality is?
Quote from: jrstewart on November 10, 2018, 03:30:40 PM
So I don't know any conservatives atm and I am curious as to what you all think. So when Trump and to what seems like a relatively substantial group of folks on the web, seem to be saying is that white men are to be scared because of the threat of false accusations or at least that's what I understand that to be, but the numbers don't add up to prompt such a scare. Let me share what I've been able to find statistically:
1 in 5 women will experience sexual assault and 1 in 71 of men will; in 91% of sexual assault cases the victims are women; 81% of women experienced long term PTSD from their assaults, hence men is 35%; 96% of child molestors are men; and only 2%-10% of accusations are false across the board. So why does this fear seem so confounded and honestly ridiculous to me? What real reason does anyone have to be fighting for something that has no legit bases or really isn't in any way a growing problem in comparison to the numbers?
Men should be cognizant of protecting themselves against false claims by deranged females. There is such a Phenom as "Copy Cat" crimes, and this whole thing with Kavanaugh will surface many such disturbed individuals (it already has) with BS tales of "sexual assault" and "Abuse". I hardly think this amounts to "Fear" but is a good common sense practise.
Second point, this statistical crap sounds like someone is trying to "profile" Men, specifically white Men as sexual predators just because they are Men. The left spends countless legal hours and enourmous amounts of Capitol trying to dispell and fight "Profiling" NOW to use the same tactic, I find that typically hypocritical.
Quote from: Ranb on November 10, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Some men and women are indeed victims of sexual violence. What do you think the reality is?
That there is not one thing about it that is political. That is reality, but the left wants to use the issue as a wedge to divide people.
Do you deny that reality?
The problem is the left believes in guilt by accusation as we have seen with Kavanaugh and most famously the Duke lacrosse players. Once you are publicly accused your life is never the same regardless if you are found innocent.
You are not supposed to believe the person. You are supposed to believe the facts.
Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2018, 07:09:37 AM
That there is not one thing about it that is political. That is reality, but the left wants to use the issue as a wedge to divide people.
Politics are used to drive a wedge between groups all of the time. This is nothing new.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 11, 2018, 06:22:18 PM
The problem is the left believes in guilt by accusation as we have seen with Kavanaugh and most famously the Duke lacrosse players. Once you are publicly accused your life is never the same regardless if you are found innocent.
I think guilt by association is the wrong term to use for Kavanaugh and the Duke students. They were accused of a crime by someone, but there wasn't an actual case against Kavanaugh while the Duke players were victims of a false accusation and an over-zealous DA.
Quote from: Ranb on November 18, 2018, 04:56:39 PM
Politics are used to drive a wedge between groups all of the time. This is nothing new.
Good to see you admit the left is to blame. You're making
Progress.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2018, 05:59:19 AM
Good to see you admit the left is to blame. You're making Progress.
Your yardstick can measure progress in much smaller increments than mine can. :lol:
Quote from: s3779m on November 19, 2018, 01:29:24 PM
Your yardstick can measure progress in much smaller increments than mine can. :lol:
He just admitted the left is the main culprit where division is concerned. :biggrin:
Quote from: Ranb on November 18, 2018, 05:03:34 PM
I think guilt by association is the wrong term to use for Kavanaugh and the Duke students. They were accused of a crime by someone, but there wasn't an actual case against Kavanaugh while the Duke players were victims of a false accusation and an over-zealous DA.
I said accusation, not association.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 19, 2018, 02:55:34 PM
I said accusation, not association.
Opps, that was a screwup. Sorry.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2018, 05:59:19 AM
Good to see you admit the left is to blame. You're making Progress.
I did not single out anyone. Those who are not good at playing politics don't get elected to public office in this country. That includes liberals and conservatives.
Quote from: Solar on November 19, 2018, 01:57:30 PM
He just admitted the left is the main culprit where division is concerned. :biggrin:
Not even close.
Quote from: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 02:17:15 PM
I did not single out anyone. Those who are not good at playing politics don't get elected to public office in this country. That includes liberals and conservatives.
Not even close.
So are you denying the left creates division by creating victims groups?
Their entire constituency was built on division and creating victims out of whole cloth.
I'm not denying that. The left is capable of nearly any despicable action. What makes you think I was deny that the left was doing anything?
Quote from: Ranb on November 25, 2018, 03:29:43 PM
I'm not denying that. The left is capable of nearly any despicable action. What makes you think I was deny that the left was doing anything?
Good to see you admit the left is to blame. You're making Progress.QuoteI did not single out anyone. Those who are not good at playing politics don't get elected to public office in this country. That includes liberals and conservatives.
No, both party's do not, only one does and you saw fit to deflect from the truth, that's why!
Did you watch Kavanaugh during his hearings? His weepy "I'm a victim" crap was revolting for a person in his position.
Remind me to never ask him if he likes beer. hahahahhaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOr808UXOgE This could be a drinking game, have a shot every time he says beer.
Quote from: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 11:35:54 AM
Did you watch Kavanaugh during his hearings? His weepy "I'm a victim" crap was revolting for a person in his position.
Remind me to never ask him if he likes beer. hahahahhaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOr808UXOgE This could be a drinking game, have a shot every time he says beer.
You still don't believe he was a victim of made up BS?
Quote from: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 11:35:54 AM
Did you watch Kavanaugh during his hearings? His weepy "I'm a victim" crap was revolting for a person in his position.
Remind me to never ask him if he likes beer. hahahahhaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOr808UXOgE This could be a drinking game, have a shot every time he says beer.
You do know she lied, Right?
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 01, 2018, 11:55:23 AM
You still don't believe he was a victim of made up BS?
Sure he could have been. But my post was about why he didn't need to come across as a little kid.
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2018, 11:55:56 AM
You do know she lied, Right?
You know Kavanaugh needs to man up when talking to anyone, liars included.
Quote from: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 11:57:25 AM
Sure he could have been. But my post was about why he didn't need to come across as a little kid.
You know Kavanaugh needs to man up when talking to anyone, liars included.
So he sits awaiting approval and the left pulls out the rape card, attacks his family with lies, and you don't think he should be allowed to be human?
Hell, if that had been me, I'd have been up on assault charges, so I commend the guy for restraining himself.
Tell me, do you still molest children?
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
So he sits awaiting approval and the left pulls out the rape card, attacks his family with lies, and you don't think he should be allowed to be human?
He needs to be much more if he wants to sit on the highest court. There are standards, he needs to meet them and more.
QuoteHell, if that had been me, I'd have been up on assault charges, so I commend the guy for restraining himself.
I am not convinced at all with this claim.
QuoteTell me, do you still molest children?
Every time someone pulls a stunt like this it makes them more and more irrelevant. Why are you doing this to yourself?
Quote from: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 12:07:29 PM
He needs to be much more if he wants to sit on the highest court. There are standards, he needs to meet them and more.
I am not convinced at all with this claim.
Every time someone pulls a stunt like this it makes them more and more irrelevant. Why are you doing this to yourself?
So answer the question, do you still molest children?
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
So answer the question, do you still molest children?
Why are you think that I would respond to any false dichotomy? Your debating skills are for the most part non-existent. You make threats to get your way. and are not beneath threatening a forum member with suspension if they ignore your posts. You'll get no such satisfaction from me.
Quote from: Ranb on December 01, 2018, 12:20:27 PM
Why are you think that I would respond to any false dichotomy? Your debating skills are for the most part non-existent. You make threats to get your way. and are not beneath threatening a forum member with suspension if they ignore your posts. You'll get no such satisfaction from me.
I was beyond lenient with your childish trolling, so...have a size 13 boot up your ass, you're out of here.
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2018, 12:24:44 PM
I was beyond lenient with your childish trolling, so...have a size 13 boot up your ass, you're out of here.
Did Ranb come on the forum for debating or to tell us how we should feel and think?
Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2018, 12:24:44 PM
I was beyond lenient with your childish trolling, so...have a size 13 boot up your ass, you're out of here.
He still gets his participation trophy right? Going to be a big tantrum if he dont get it, I mean the trophy, I dont think he will ever get "it".
Quote from: s3779m on December 01, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
He still gets his participation trophy right? Going to be a big tantrum if he dont get it, I mean the trophy, I dont think he will ever get "it".
Well, I guess he could keep the boot after they extract it and have it bronzed and mounted. :biggrin:
It was odd, I literally booted him, and seconds later, Dish had a West coast outage,, my internet went down, but during this time y satellite modem failed as well, Dish gave me such a runaround, that I switched Viasat, formerly Exceed, now my connection screams.
I guess duping a lib turd is what was needed. :biggrin: