Senator Jeff Flake won't run for re-election

Started by taxed, October 24, 2017, 12:24:10 PM

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nzone

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 25, 2017, 04:22:55 AM
No need to concentrate on the House. The "Freedom Caucus" has Ryan under control. The senate is a more target rich environment for RINO's.

Then why did the "Freedom Caucas" Vote for RYAN as Speaker???? They are not who most think they are but they show well? :wub:

Solar

Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 05:12:58 AM
Then why did the "Freedom Caucas" Vote for RYAN as Speaker???? They are not who most think they are but they show well? :wub:
I wasn't happy with that either, but the explanation did make sense, though they were lied to in the end and promises broken.
Keep in mind, the Freedom Caucus, by comparison, is small, but that will all change in 2018 as more and more join in after the defeat of the Establishment RINO.
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Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 05:12:58 AM
Then why did the "Freedom Caucas" Vote for RYAN as Speaker???? They are not who most think they are but they show well? :wub:

I agree with Solar's response.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 25, 2017, 06:20:59 AM
I agree with Solar's response.
Yeah, here was just some of the lies. They were, at the time, in a lose-lose situation, so they did what was best for the party as a whole, show they were all on the same page.
Only to get screwed by the Establishment in the end.

QuoteAmong the things that Ryan promised the members were a return to regular order, changes to the steering committee that decides committee assignments centralizing power in the Speaker's office—Ryan even promised to give up the Speaker's five votes on the committee—and an end to retaliation against Republican members who vote their conscience.

He reiterated his promise made in the full GOP conference on Tuesday of no amnesty bill under President Obama—which conspicuously did not extend to the next president....

There were only two catches to Ryan's litany of promises: first, those present couldn't tell the public what just happened because, Ryan argued, it would infuriate the other side of the House GOP conference. And Ryan would get what he wanted with significant changes to a House rule .... That rule of course allows any member to offer a "motion to vacate the chair" as a privileged resolution—allowing members to, if a Speaker is out of control, as Boehner has been, remove a Speaker from power. Ryan wants to severely undercut the power of rank-and-file members to hold a Speaker accountable with a motion to vacate the chair....
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/10/supermajority_of_freedom_caucus_supporting_paul_ryan_is_neither_super_nor_free.html
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 25, 2017, 04:22:55 AM
No need to concentrate on the House. The "Freedom Caucus" has Ryan under control. The senate is a more target rich environment for RINO's.

Yes, SWAMP draining is needed big time in the Senate.
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nzone

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2017, 06:06:12 AM
I wasn't happy with that either, but the explanation did make sense, though they were lied to in the end and promises broken.
Keep in mind, the Freedom Caucus, by comparison, is small, but that will all change in 2018 as more and more join in after the defeat of the Establishment RINO.

You are 100 % right and hopefully that changes in 2018. However if RYAN is not defeated in his district and wants to be Speaker again IMO they 'Freedom Caucus" will not oppose and justify it somehow. Many said RYAN Lied to them before and he did. "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me". In my opinion they are "controlled opposition" and are allowed to vote and stand up to the others for show and the small things. When the RINOGOPe (RYAN) know they have the votes they let them yell and holler to look like their is opposition. However, when it counts they always fold and go with the RINOGOPe. Been watching them for a long time and it is the same thing every time. JMO :glare:

Solar

Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 08:05:33 AM
You are 100 % right and hopefully that changes in 2018. However if RYAN is not defeated in his district and wants to be Speaker again IMO they 'Freedom Caucus" will not oppose and justify it somehow. Many said RYAN Lied to them before and he did. "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me". In my opinion they are "controlled opposition" and are allowed to vote and stand up to the others for show and the small things. When the RINOGOPe (RYAN) know they have the votes they let them yell and holler to look like their is opposition. However, when it counts they always fold and go with the RINOGOPe. Been watching them for a long time and it is the same thing every time. JMO :glare:
Thing is, we don't even have to defeat the Establishment, they're bailing as we speak, and this is only the first ripple of the Tsunami to come.
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nzone

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
Thing is, we don't even have to defeat the Establishment, they're bailing as we speak, and this is only the first ripple of the Tsunami to come.
Quick read.

The Future Of The Democrat Party, 2018 and Beyond

https://conservativehardliner.com/future-democrat-party-2018-and-beyond

All for that! Keep the good news coming and the bailing continues. :thumbup:

walkstall

Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
All for that! Keep the good news coming and the bailing continues. :thumbup:


Most Dem's will not talk about this.
QuoteLet us not forget, the party lost over 1000 Legislative seats under the Marxist, and for good reason, the country is still majority Conservative. That's a serious mountain for the party to overcome, not to mention when one looks at the election of Trump, the only safe spaces left for the Dim party was along the coasts. The rest of the country voted Right.
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Solar

Quote from: taxed on October 25, 2017, 10:34:08 AM
More data on the RINO Flake...

http://theresurgent.com/useful-data-to-show-you-that-jeff-flake-beat-jeff-flake-bannon-and-trump-did-not-beat-him/
That's the thing, the Establishment is it's own worst enemy, as well as the nations Number One Enemy now, and that's why they're bailing the sinking ship. Flake was too far left for his constituency, he has only, but himself to blame.

Hell, the Establishment just had an 8-year preview of their own future watching the Dim party implode by moving too far left, and even though they saw it, they still insisted on funding all of the Marxists failed socialist programs.
These people are incorrigible, which is why so many are bailing now, knowing what the future holds for the establishment.
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Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
All for that! Keep the good news coming and the bailing continues. :thumbup:

BTW Nzone, welcome to Conservative Political Forum!  :smile:
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Solar

Quote from: nzone on October 25, 2017, 10:00:37 AM
All for that! Keep the good news coming and the bailing continues. :thumbup:
Oh yeah, same here, welcome. We sometimes forget to welcome new members after a rash of Trolls, because by that time, all become suspect.
You can in on the end of a run of losers.
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2017, 10:54:10 AM
Oh yeah, same here, welcome. We sometimes forget to welcome new members after a rash of Trolls, because by that time, all become suspect.
You can in on the end of a run of losers.
So welcome, glad to have you aboard.


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Quote from: walkstall on October 25, 2017, 10:58:06 AM

Boo left the screen door open again.   :lol:

What screen door? I come in through the window...