Second Amendment

Started by Shooterman, August 11, 2016, 06:26:14 PM

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Ms.Independence

Quote from: walkstall on August 11, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
Smart move.

:cursing:  Except I just spoke with the FL Dept. of Agriculture regional licensing division.  One cannot renew their permit early.  In order to renew a CCW permit you have to receive a renewal letter from the State.  Those letters normally come out 150 days before the permit expires; however, I was informed that they are so backed up that people who's licenses expired in December are just now getting their renewal letters/licenses.  Of course he went on to say that I have nothing to worry about, FL isn't going to change their laws.  Ya, right.  If I believed that, I wouldn't have called in the first place.

I think we're royally screwed. Who's to say that there won't be an e.o. issued placing a freeze on granting new permits or renewals?
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blades

Quote from: Ms.Independence on August 12, 2016, 08:33:14 AM
:cursing:  Except I just spoke with the FL Dept. of Agriculture regional licensing division.  One cannot renew their permit early.  In order to renew a CCW permit you have to receive a renewal letter from the State.  Those letters normally come out 150 days before the permit expires; however, I was informed that they are so backed up that people who's licenses expired in December are just now getting their renewal letters/licenses.  Of course he went on to say that I have nothing to worry about, FL isn't going to change their laws.  Ya, right.  If I believed that, I wouldn't have called in the first place.

I think we're royally screwed. Who's to say that there won't be an e.o. issued placing a freeze on granting new permits or renewals?


is it just me or does a CCW permit violate the 2nd amendment????...

''SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED''

Double D

Quote from: blades on August 12, 2016, 08:36:53 AM

is it just me or does a CCW permit violate the 2nd amendment????...

''SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED''

Nope, not just you. All gun laws and training and permit requirements are illegal and go directly against the 2nd amendment. That being said, you will go to jail without following these requirements. Now, some may ask if I think training is a bad thing. The answer is no. I think people should be well trained but making it a requirement is just another infringement against the most infringed against words "shall not be infringed." I carried a firearm before the state of Fl required a permit in 1987 and I decided to apply for a permit then and have had one since. Its another tax. It sucks. The states that are passing constitutional carry are getting it right. It should be the law of the land. I am an FFL and am also an NRA pistol instructor. The 2nd is something close to my heart.
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Solar

Quote from: Double D on August 12, 2016, 08:53:10 AM
Nope, not just you. All gun laws and training and permit requirements are illegal and go directly against the 2nd amendment. That being said, you will go to jail without following these requirements. Now, some may ask if I think training is a bad thing. The answer is no. I think people should be well trained but making it a requirement is just another infringement against the most infringed against words "shall not be infringed." I carried a firearm before the state of Fl required a permit in 1987 and I decided to apply for a permit then and have had one since. Its another tax. It sucks. The states that are passing constitutional carry are getting it right. It should be the law of the land. I am an FFL and am also an NRA pistol instructor. The 2nd is something close to my heart.
Bingo!!!
It's how the left works, and a capitulation bunch of squishies give away our Rights, Rights they were banned from touching as stated in the Bill of Rights.
Now it's the First Amendment, with their fracturing of speech in redefing "Hate" speech as not being covered. :rolleyes:.
I'll be moving this to it's appropriate forum, or rather Walks will.
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Quote from: walkstall on August 12, 2016, 06:08:53 AM
The only one that may keep his word is Ted Cruz young timer.  But being from the Great state of Texas, you know that young man.

(*best Ronnie Reagan voice*) There he goes again!  :rolleyes:

quiller

Quote from: Shooterman on August 12, 2016, 07:10:31 AM
Remember the anecdote I quoted Quill?

:cry:  Slow down there, podnuh, since even I don't remember the anecdote you quoted Quill.

QuoteTwo or three percent, possibly five, will get The Beast Lady elected.

Well, if you keep killing young patriots in wars Dems can't competently lead, sooner or later you will be outnumbered. If the current feminist trend continues to geld American males, we will be defenseless within two generations. Wait. Wrong rant. More later.  :blink:

Shooterman

Quote from: quiller on August 12, 2016, 04:01:13 PM

Well, if you keep killing young patriots in wars Dems can't competently lead, sooner or later you will be outnumbered. If the current feminist trend continues to geld American males, we will be defenseless within two generations. Wait. Wrong rant. More later.  :blink:

Point taken. However I always felt Mr Bush's War was an abomination.






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Solar

Quote from: Shooterman on August 12, 2016, 04:59:36 PM
Point taken. However I always felt Mr Bush's War was an abomination.
Wonder how many said that about FDR over Pearl Harbor?
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Quote from: Solar on August 12, 2016, 05:16:13 PM
Wonder how many said that about FDR over Pearl Harbor?

George Washington's ass was sore also I am sure from all the naysayer on both sides. 
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Quote from: Shooterman on August 12, 2016, 06:30:40 AM
I don' know, Solar, but Trump is the nominee. As much as you like Cruz, he will not become President in this cycle. That leaves the Libertarian, Green Pub,or Dim.
trump has as much chance at the presidency as does Cruz. Trump has already said he does not want my vote so he will not get it. don't bother with " a vote for Cruz is a vote for hillery" hillery won the white house the day trump got his magic # of delegates. It took a lot of effort from the lsm to make trump the rep. candidate, it won't take near as much effort to knock him down.      here's to the midterms and 2020.

tac

Trump is he nominee for the republican party. I left the republican party so why should I care who they nominate. Besides you vote for the person, not the party and I cannot bring myself to check off Trump.  :thumbdown:

Solar

Quote from: s3779m on August 13, 2016, 01:06:21 AM
trump has as much chance at the presidency as does Cruz. Trump has already said he does not want my vote so he will not get it. don't bother with " a vote for Cruz is a vote for hillery" hillery won the white house the day trump got his magic # of delegates. It took a lot of effort from the lsm to make trump the rep. candidate, it won't take near as much effort to knock him down.      here's to the midterms and 2020.
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Two, it cuts at Clinton, and three, it cuts away the cancer that is leftist control over the GOP.
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Quote from: tac on August 13, 2016, 05:21:32 AM
Trump is he nominee for the republican party. I left the republican party so why should I care who they nominate. Besides you vote for the person, not the party and I cannot bring myself to check off Trump.  :thumbdown:

All good and said, TAC, but the fact remains either Trump or The Beast will become President.That's a fact regardless how much we scream.











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Solar

Quote from: Shooterman on August 13, 2016, 07:52:24 AM
 
All good and said, TAC, but the fact remains either Trump or The Beast will become President.That's a fact regardless how much we scream.
The question is, why are you under the illusion that trump entered the race to win?
The GOP had a perfectly good Conservative, yet wound up pushing him out in support of Trump.
Are you not making this connection?
Trump is not even a RINO. All the evidence supports he's in the race to get Clinton elected, has been since long before he announced he was running.
Shooter, ask me anything where you disagree, where you think I'm full of shit, I'll gladly support it with facts.
I wish I was wrong, but I know I'm not. Trump is a Dim plant.


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tac

Quote from: Shooterman on August 13, 2016, 07:52:24 AM
 
All good and said, TAC, but the fact remains either Trump or The Beast will become President.That's a fact regardless how much we scream.



That's the truth Shooter, one of them will be president, which is unfortunate for this country.