Quote from: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Why would we want to change the debate from how bad and dishonest these people. The reason they are becoming so unpopular is because they screw up everything they touch! Hillary's baggage is the route to the presidency. Changing that debate would only hurt our chances!

What debate?!

The MSM is doing their damnedest to ignore anything negative about the Clinton Foundation, and, for the most part, our wolf pack of presidential wannabe's are letting them get away with it!

Quote from: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
We are who we are!   Are you suggesting we compromise on social issues?

No. I am saying don't fall into traps yet you always will because the media dictates the narrative.

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Really?

The social issues that are supposedly a "killer" to Conservatives are the very issues that the Democrats rode to victory on! Of course, if no one opposes them on those issues then, is that really a surprise?

Social issues are not what kill Conservatives. Failure to take a principled Conservative stand on those issues is what does them in!

War on women.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 23, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
No. I am saying don't fall into traps yet you always will because the media dictates the narrative.

I don't think any of the candidates willfully walk into controversial turf.  As you said, the media keeps stoking the fires of controversy.  It makes for good programming.  They are searching for a crack in the armor... softening by the candidate.  Something they can blow out of proportion and make headlines.

That is why it is so important for the conservatives to be strong and well rehearsed on the social issues.  THey are indeed a critical part of our platform.  There is no need for social issues to kill us.  We are right on these matters.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 23, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
War on women.

There is no "War on Women"! The only reason the Left and their Lapdog Media get away with claiming there is one, is because the GOP is too cowardly to actively and effective refute that asinine assertion! They don't want to get bogged down with "social issues".

So, the Democrats win that argument by default!

It doesn't take a very high I.Q. to realize that if you don't fight back, you are not going to win! That is why the Democrats keep "advising" us not to fight back on social issues!

If I had my way, every Republican would be required to carry a card in their wallet that says the following:

1. The MEDIA does not like you and never will!

2. There is nothing you can ever do that will make the MEDIA like you!

3. The MEDIA is your enemy!

And they would be required to read that card to themselves three times before every news briefing, interview, or speech!

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
There is no "War on Women"! The only reason the Left and their Lapdog Media get away with claiming there is one, is because the GOP is too cowardly to actively and effective refute that asinine assertion! They don't want to get bogged down with "social issues".

So, the Democrats win that argument by default!

It doesn't take a very high I.Q. to realize that if you don't fight back, you are not going to win! That is why the Democrats keep "advising" us not to fight back on social issues!

If I had my way, every Republican would be required to carry a card in their wallet that says the following:

1. The MEDIA does not like you and never will!

2. There is nothing you can ever do that will make the MEDIA like you!

3. The MEDIA is your enemy!

And they would be required to read that card to themselves three times before every news briefing, interview, or speech!

Beware of the MSM talking nice a bout a republican.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 08:08:11 AM
Beware of the MSM talking nice a bout a republican.

If they are, he probably isn't.

Quote from: quiller on June 24, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
If they are, he probably isn't.

It is a trap. They talked nice about McCain and Romney until they were nominated.

Quote from: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
It is a trap. They talked nice about McCain and Romney until they were nominated.

Precisely because that is who the MSM wanted to run against Obama!

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
Precisely because that is who the MSM wanted to run against Obama!

A big yep.

Quote from: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Looks like Walker is scoring with Social conservatives!

To be honest, when even his own party is outraged and disgusted by what he's doing. I think it's probably more about Obama fatigue at this point.

Than wowing the voters with anti-obama shtick.

Quote from: daidalos on June 27, 2015, 06:53:01 PM
To be honest, when even his own party is outraged and disgusted by what he's doing. I think it's probably more about Obama fatigue at this point.

Than wowing the voters with anti-obama shtick.

When I see Social conservatives, I always think of.

Quote from: walkstall on June 27, 2015, 07:04:25 PM
When I see Social conservatives, I always think of.

First, let's get our terms right. When people say "Social Conservative" what they really mean is "Christian Conservative".

Next, just like every one who calls himself a Republicans is not necessarily a Conservative, not everyone who calls himself a Christian really is a Christian. The Marxists have done a good job of corrupting and co opting parts of Christianity in much the same way as they have the Republican Party.

Finally, the reason so-called social Conservatives seem so ineffectual on social issues, is because 1) there have been no real Christian Conservative leaders in the Republican Party, 2) they really haven't been fighting back - so far and 3) whenever any Christian Conservative does try to fight for social issues, he is stabbed in the back by party leadership.

I think this SCOTUS activism on Homosexual Marriage is the tipping point for all of that. I think that here, Christian Conservatives will draw their line in the sand.

Quote from: Darth Fife on June 28, 2015, 08:07:59 AM
First, let's get our terms right. When people say "Social Conservative" what they really mean is "Christian Conservative".

Next, just like every one who calls himself a Republicans is not necessarily a Conservative, not everyone who calls himself a Christian really is a Christian. The Marxists have done a good job of corrupting and co opting parts of Christianity in much the same way as they have the Republican Party.

Finally, the reason so-called social Conservatives seem so ineffectual on social issues, is because 1) there have been no real Christian Conservative leaders in the Republican Party, 2) they really haven't been fighting back - so far and 3) whenever any Christian Conservative does try to fight for social issues, he is stabbed in the back by party leadership.

I think this SCOTUS activism on Homosexual Marriage is the tipping point for all of that. I think that here, Christian Conservatives will draw their line in the sand.

Social conservatism


Social conservatism is a group of political ideologies centred around preserving traditional beliefs, attitudes and philosophy, in the face of social progressivism. The aims of social conservatism vary from organisation to organisation, and from country to country. Thus, there are really no policies or positions that could be considered universal among social conservatives.


Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism

But then again this is Wikipedia.   

Okay, so where does the post turtle figure in?