Socialism, Scandinavian style. The Bernie Sanders wet dream. 

QuoteScandinavia: Successful Socialism?

Written by John Larabell

In America, we've been hearing an awful lot about the wonders of socialism and how we really ought to adopt that system in order to avoid many of the problems facing our country. Particularly with the recent popularity of outspoken socialist Senator Bernie Sanders among American millennials, Scandinavian socialism is being propped up as a way to fix our country.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/economics/item/23805-scandinavia-successful-socialism

I read it somewhere certain high ranking official made an on-record claim that Sweden is in fact, not socialism. I could be wrong.

But at any rate, as long as you tolerate people with private properties, you have no right in claiming to be a socialist country and every chance to be just another crony capitalist one.

The resilience of Sweden's economy was a result of its pioneering free-market reforms, among all Nordic nations.

Quote from: Rury_Foad on August 17, 2016, 08:02:04 AM
I read it somewhere certain high ranking official made an on-record claim that Sweden is in fact, not socialism. I could be wrong.

But at any rate, as long as you tolerate people with private properties, you have no right in claiming to be a socialist country and every chance to be just another crony capitalist one.

The resilience of Sweden's economy was a result of its pioneering free-market reforms, among all Nordic nations.

I sure would like to see that link that claims Sweden is not socialist.

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
I sure would like to see that link that claims Sweden is not socialist.

You shouldn't confuse a welfare state, with a socialist one.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 17, 2016, 08:18:07 AM
You shouldn't confuse a welfare state, with a socialist one.

What's the difference?

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
What's the difference?

I think in the socialist one, you have to work in some way or you don't eat.

I'm confused. Successful socialism? How can that be?

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
What's the difference?

Well, we're a welfare state. But you're right, they are essentially both labels with the same meaning.
What sets us apart, is instead of govt nationalizing all industry, govt simply prints financial debt on the backs of future generations.
Same end result...

Don't get me started on Sanders.

This fraud said:

Quote"You don't necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants or of 18 different pairs of sneakers when children are hungry in this country,"

Yet he needs three houses?

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/bernie-sanders-summer-house

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 17, 2016, 07:44:13 PM
Don't get me started on Sanders.

This fraud said:

Yet he needs three houses?

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/08/bernie-sanders-summer-house

Bernie is a 'do as I say,not as I do' socialist. His message was for the LIV's that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. He is no different than the the communist party leaders that had their dachas, while the people starved. Bernie and Trump are not that different. Both are lying charlatans.

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
What's the difference?

Who owns and/or controls the businesses that provide the tax monies that support the welfare state. Scandinavia's secret is that they are were homogeneous states, where there was general support for social welfare policies. They in affect treated themselves as one big family. There was never the vicious class warfare which is at the heart of most socialist states.

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:11:45 AM
I sure would like to see that link that claims Sweden is not socialist.

My honest mistake: it wasn't Sweden, it was Denmark's PM:http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/

Denmark ranks consistently above US on economic freedom index.

Quote from: tac on August 17, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
What's the difference?

A major difference is whether the so said societies tolerate private ownership of property, companies etc. and to what degrees do they do so.

USSR — typical socialism, virtually no private companies.
Sweden — typical crony capitalism, both state-run businesses and private businesses exists.

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 17, 2016, 09:24:03 AM
I'm confused. Successful socialism? How can that be?

Easy.  By calling a society marginally fits your utopian vision of socialism "socialism".

It's comical no liberals talks about Venezuela, which is actually very close to a real socialist state or Qatar, which is a true-to-form welfare state where virtually everyone (and I'm not kidding on this one) can afford a Lamborghini.

I'm guessing learning a new language (Spanish or Arabic) entails hard work?

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