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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on April 09, 2018, 03:31:11 PM

Title: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
Yes, they fear us dearly, so much so, they want to force us to use Govt approved fact-checkers to verify news we post.
This should be a hoot, since this forum is all about facts and the truth, which is why we don't have any libs here, they hate facts and our Founding Documents.


This bill would require any person who operates a social media, as defined, Internet Web site with a physical presence in California to develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Web site. The bill would require the plan to include, among other things, a plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories, the utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories, providing outreach to social media users, and placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.

(b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following:

(1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories.

(2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories.

(3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information.

(4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(c) As used in this section, "social media" means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1424
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: walkstall on April 09, 2018, 03:39:13 PM
WHO is going to fact-check the government system?

Who is going to fact-check the MSM before they talk BS?

Who id going to fact-check every news paper before they print BS?
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 09, 2018, 04:09:13 PM
If the Marxists want to shut us down I'd wear that like a badge of honor
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 09, 2018, 04:39:16 PM
How are they going to enforce this?

I though forums were internet websites that featured online discussion of related subjects from like-minded people with particular opinions? Since when are we news?

If this were a forum about Pontiac Trans-Am's, we would be discussing everything about that car; including our biases towards that car and our biases against other cars. Since this is a Conservative forum, it features an online discussion of Conservative topics from us like-minded Conservatives with our like-minded Conservative opinions. We do not create news; we just discuss it as it reflates to out like-minded Conservatism.

Be careful of what you ask for. You own laws-n-policies will turn around and bite you in the ass.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 09, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
Sounds like the marathon version of net neutrality.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 09, 2018, 04:39:16 PM
How are they going to enforce this?

I though forums were internet websites that featured online discussion of related subjects from like-minded people with particular opinions? Since when are we news?

If this were a forum about Pontiac Trans-Am's, we would be discussing everything about that car; including our biases towards that car and our biases against other cars. Since this is a Conservative forum, it features an online discussion of Conservative topics from us like-minded Conservatives with our like-minded Conservative opinions. We do not create news; we just discuss it as it reflates to out like-minded Conservatism.

Be careful of what you ask for. You own laws-n-policies will turn around and bite you in the ass.
Many of us write original articles and post, not only here, but all over the web.
Basically, they're targeting opinion pieces produced by the right. Problem is, all leftist news is opinion pieces littered with half truths.
Aside the fact we have the First Amendment on our side.
Screw them if they think they can shut us down, I'll be more than happy to head to SCOTUS if that's what it takes.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: zewazir on April 09, 2018, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Many of us write original articles and post, not only here, but all over the web.
Basically, they're targeting opinion pieces produced by the right. Problem is, all leftist news is opinion pieces littered with half truths.
Aside the fact we have the First Amendment on our side.
Screw them if they think they can shut us down, I'll be more than happy to head to SCOTUS if that's what it takes.
They can't force censorship on the net, and they know it. I don't think even the 9th circus would uphold such a blatant attack on free speech. This is nothing more than a bunch of far left blowhards playing up to their far leftists idiot supporters.

Simultaneously, they are showing their true colors. Scratch a leftist, find a tyrant wannabe every single time. But these kinds of things are to our advantage in the long run. The extremists demonstrate what leftist socialism truly is under the veneer of "caring for the little guy", and the majority of left leaners will begin questioning exactly what it is they support.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: walkstall on April 09, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
Quote(a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.


Is this just California? 
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Fishman on April 09, 2018, 09:17:35 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 09, 2018, 03:39:13 PM
WHO is going to fact-check the government system?

Who is going to fact-check the MSM before they talk BS?

Who id going to fact-check every news paper before they print BS?

I know, lets put Zucker in charge... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Fishman on April 09, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
Many of us write original articles and post, not only here, but all over the web.
Basically, they're targeting opinion pieces produced by the right. Problem is, all leftist news is opinion pieces littered with half truths.
Aside the fact we have the First Amendment on our side.
Screw them if they think they can shut us down, I'll be more than happy to head to SCOTUS if that's what it takes.

I hear ya but I'm not sure the 1st amendment is on our side any more. Just look at college campuses when a controversial (conservative) speaker is scheduled. How about the boycotting game from advertisers if some little snowflake gets there feelings hurt? We (conservatives) are losing the 1st amendment slowly but surely unless something changes. 
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2018, 04:33:35 AM
Quote from: Fishman on April 09, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
I hear ya but I'm not sure the 1st amendment is on our side any more. Just look at college campuses when a controversial (conservative) speaker is scheduled. How about the boycotting game from advertisers if some little snowflake gets there feelings hurt? We (conservatives) are losing the 1st amendment slowly but surely unless something changes.
Truth is, I'm not in the least bit concerned, I just love posting this shit and highlighting crazies and the hypocrisy of the left and how they try and stop dissenting voices from being heard, it's literally a mirror of all their actions and how they claim they're for Liberty as long as they are the ones controlling it.
Not to go off topic, but the 2nd has been on their target list forever because they know they can't implement destroying the first unless the 2nd is destroyed.
Take abortion, they claim it's a womans right to murder, yet care nothing for the fact that our Constitution guarantees the Right to "LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness", last I checked, that didn't just apply to after birth, or one sex, as in, how about the mans Right to a say in the preservation of life.

Point is, the left is only hurting their own picnic by letting the jackals run wild in the park, giving the impression the entire party supports crazies like this nut.
Which is just fine, let them drive more and more people away, because it only takes one generation to lose a Bill of Rights, so shrinking their base, strengthens our Founding Principles.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: cubs2016 on April 10, 2018, 05:35:37 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2018, 03:31:11 PM

"The bill would require the plan to include, among other things, a plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories, the utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories, providing outreach to social media users, and placing a warning on a news story containing false information."

Ha!  Now isn't that just precious?  The very people who dissemble, leave context out of stories, and outright lie are telling us they are going to "mitigate the spread of FALSE information"?  California legislators are among the worst culprits.  Hell, to a person, they'll tell you that the California economy is doing great with all their illegals "contributing" while its middle class is getting the hell out of Dodge.   :laugh: 
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Dubinsky on April 10, 2018, 07:57:58 AM
Wouldn't required linking to a site to back up what one says take some of the onus off say a board like to this to have to verify what it's members are posting? Most here and other boards already do that that. Also how do you verify an opinion and hold someone else accountable for that opinion? More left wing lunacy.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Rotwang on April 10, 2018, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
Yes, they fear us dearly, so much so, they want to force us to use Govt approved fact-checkers to verify news we post.
This should be a hoot, since this forum is all about facts and the truth, which is why we don't have any libs here, they hate facts and our Founding Documents.


This bill would require any person who operates a social media, as defined, Internet Web site with a physical presence in California to develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Web site. The bill would require the plan to include, among other things, a plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories, the utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories, providing outreach to social media users, and placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.

(b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following:

(1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories.

(2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories.

(3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information.

(4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information.

(c) As used in this section, "social media" means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB1424

I would take that to mean SERVERS IN CALIFORNIA.

Sounds like a great way to kill California businesses.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 10, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
Wasn't there a recent ruling that stated that "news" can say what they want?

Doesn't it kinda cancel this out?
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 10, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
Wasn't there a recent ruling that stated that "news" can say what they want?

Doesn't it kinda cancel this out?
Yeah, the entire premise of the First Amendment was built around the concept of a totally Free Press.
These Marxists are just too stupid to know when they're making complete asses of themselves.
Title: Re: SB1424: Marxists Want To Kill This Forum
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 10, 2018, 06:57:49 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
Yeah, the entire premise of the First Amendment was built around the concept of a totally Free Press.
These Marxists are just too stupid to know when they're making complete asses of themselves.

Our individual opinions (from us nobody forum posters) to specific political pundit pieces (which a few member here perform up to Hannity, Shapiro, Wilkow, or Gutfield) to actual news broadcasts are protected by the First Amendment.

I find this bill Un-Constitutional. Case Closed. (pounds gavel)

Nothing to see here. Everybody can go about their business. Move along. These aren't the droids your looking for.