If true? This is fuckin Huge!!!
For decades the King allowed the Clerics to educate the masses, (See Wahabism) this is what brought the world terrorism, teaching the warped version of their prophet pedophile.
If successful, he could end most terrorist activities within 30 years, and young enough to accomplish it.
Ya know, we had our own President did what the Saudi King did, in allowing a warped ideology to take complete control of our educational system and teach our kids that Marxism isn't as bad as the world claims it is.
That POTUS was GW Bush, and the recipient was Marxist Teddy Kenedy, the gentleman that refused to open a car door for a lady back in the 60s. (underwater, that is)
'Moderate Saudi Arabia': crown prince shakes up kingdom
Riyadh (AFP) - Unveiling blueprints for a futuristic landscape with robots and driverless cars, Saudi Arabia's young crown prince outlined his most emphatic vision yet to transform the ultra-conservative kingdom as he sought to charm investors.
In a rare public appearance Tuesday at an investor summit in Riyadh -- dubbed "Davos in the desert" -- Mohammed bin Salman pledged a "moderate" Saudi Arabia, long seen as an exporter of a brand of puritanical Islam espoused by jihadists worldwide.
The speech came as the 32-year-old prince oversees reforms that mark the biggest cultural and economic shake-up in the kingdom's modern history, while sidelining powerful clergy who have long dominated the public discourse.
"We will not spend the next 30 years of our lives dealing with destructive ideas. We will destroy them today and at once," Prince Mohammed told global business titans gathered in a chandelier-studded ballroom for the Future Investment Initiative.
MBS, as he is well known, promised his kingdom will return to "what we were before -- a country of moderate Islam that is tolerant of all religions and to the world".
His comment, while unveiling plans for a $500 billion development zone spread on the kingdom's western coast, chimes with his public image of a bold liberal reformer in a conservative country where more than half the population is under 25.
"I think this is the clearest articulation we've heard so far about where the crown prince plans to take Saudi," Lori Boghardt, from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told AFP.
"It's clear the crown prince is set on dramatically transforming the kingdom. This especially includes a quieter and less influential ultraconservative religious sphere."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/moderate-saudi-arabia-crown-prince-shakes-kingdom-143008135.html
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 06:30:39 AM
If true? This is fuckin Huge!!!
For decades the King allowed the Clerics to educate the masses, (See Wahabism) this is what brought the world terrorism, teaching the warped version of their prophet pedophile.
If successful, he could end most terrorist activities within 30 years, and young enough to accomplish it.
Ya know, we had our own President did what the Saudi King did, in allowing a warped ideology to take complete control of our educational system and teach our kids that Marxism isn't as bad as the world claims it is.
That POTUS was GW Bush, and the recipient was Marxist Teddy Kenedy, the gentleman that refused to open a car door for a lady back in the 60s. (underwater, that is)
'Moderate Saudi Arabia': crown prince shakes up kingdom
Riyadh (AFP) - Unveiling blueprints for a futuristic landscape with robots and driverless cars, Saudi Arabia's young crown prince outlined his most emphatic vision yet to transform the ultra-conservative kingdom as he sought to charm investors.
In a rare public appearance Tuesday at an investor summit in Riyadh -- dubbed "Davos in the desert" -- Mohammed bin Salman pledged a "moderate" Saudi Arabia, long seen as an exporter of a brand of puritanical Islam espoused by jihadists worldwide.
The speech came as the 32-year-old prince oversees reforms that mark the biggest cultural and economic shake-up in the kingdom's modern history, while sidelining powerful clergy who have long dominated the public discourse.
"We will not spend the next 30 years of our lives dealing with destructive ideas. We will destroy them today and at once," Prince Mohammed told global business titans gathered in a chandelier-studded ballroom for the Future Investment Initiative.
MBS, as he is well known, promised his kingdom will return to "what we were before -- a country of moderate Islam that is tolerant of all religions and to the world".
His comment, while unveiling plans for a $500 billion development zone spread on the kingdom's western coast, chimes with his public image of a bold liberal reformer in a conservative country where more than half the population is under 25.
"I think this is the clearest articulation we've heard so far about where the crown prince plans to take Saudi," Lori Boghardt, from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told AFP.
"It's clear the crown prince is set on dramatically transforming the kingdom. This especially includes a quieter and less influential ultraconservative religious sphere."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/moderate-saudi-arabia-crown-prince-shakes-kingdom-143008135.html
I wish him good fortune with this effort. His vision is quite rare in Muslim countries. If he is successful SA will become the dominant country in the ME by far. It will be very difficult. Most clerics will be openly opposed. Also, there will be hardliners who will resist. I don't like nation building, but support helping a country dump the chains of an outdated philosophy.
I hope this is true but looking at history of the Saudi's and the US at best a MAYBE. They have played the US for years, Bush, Clinton,Bush, Obama and now TRUMP. They play both ends toward the middle and act like they are our friends BUT stab us in the back every chance they get. LOOK who sponsor Terrorism ? Look behind the NEWS TALKING POINTS and you will find a SAUDI. 9/11 SAUDI's sponsor and BUSH flew them out of the country when a NO FLY rule in effect. WHY ? Al QAEDA = Saudi personnel and MONEY. ISIS = SAUDI money again. They are doing the same BS on TRUMP because he is tapping the US Energy reserves which we have for decades. They are scared of TRUMP and are kissing ass now and if he CAVES they will screw us in a heartbeat like they always have done before. I sat in line waiting for Gasoline TRUCK to show up and still POed ABOUT IT because of the Saudis thought the US had to much energy. BS stick a knife in them they are DONE. :sneaky:
Quote from: nzone on October 26, 2017, 08:30:32 AM
I hope this is true but looking at history of the Saudi's and the US at best a MAYBE. They have played the US for years, Bush, Clinton,Bush, Obama and now TRUMP. They play both ends toward the middle and act like they are our friends BUT stab us in the back every chance they get. LOOK who sponsor Terrorism ? Look behind the NEWS TALKING POINTS and you will find a SAUDI. 9/11 SAUDI's sponsor and BUSH flew them out of the country when a NO FLY rule in effect. WHY ? Al QAEDA = Saudi personnel and MONEY. ISIS = SAUDI money again. They are doing the same BS on TRUMP because he is tapping the US Energy reserves which we have for decades. They are scared of TRUMP and are kissing ass now and if he CAVES they will screw us in a heartbeat like they always have done before. I sat in line waiting for Gasoline TRUCK to show up and still POed ABOUT IT because of the Saudis thought the US had to much energy. BS stick a knife in them they are DONE. :sneaky:
I think you might be missing the bigger point here. Trump pretty much told OPEC to screw themselves, something S/A was the leader of and all the other OPEC nations followed suit.
But more importantly, Saudi is selling off its oil interests for the first time in its history.
Then as evidence that Trump isn't caving to S/A historical demands, he opened the biggest oil reserve lease sale in US history, something former Presidents refused to do, bowing to the will of S/A King Abdullah.
Times are changing for the better, this is a huge event in history, one people will look back on with sincere admiration of Trump, but you won't hear it from the media for decades to come.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trump-offers-76m-acres-offshore-drilling-largest-lease-sale-in-history/
Quote from: supsalemgr on October 26, 2017, 07:51:50 AM
I wish him good fortune with this effort. His vision is quite rare in Muslim countries. If he is successful SA will become the dominant country in the ME by far. It will be very difficult. Most clerics will be openly opposed. Also, there will be hardliners who will resist. I don't like nation building, but support helping a country dump the chains of an outdated philosophy.
Yes, remember Sadat, or Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran? Both wanted what was best for their people and both suffered at the hands of radical Wahabis.
I hope he has a handpicked military guard, he's going to need it very soon.
This is amazing... and with Chinese president... things are changing...
Quote from: taxed on October 26, 2017, 09:10:05 AM
This is amazing... and with Chinese president... things are changing...
I can't express the gravity of this situation, both Trump's move and the Saudi King trying to bring S/A out of the 7th century are earth shaking events.
First Trump is making America king of oil production, we set the global rates, not OPEC, and S/A is making the move to kill off radicals of their so called religion, even possibly bringing some semblance of peace to the M/E, along with destroying the maker of terrorists, S/A Clerics.
This is huge on the calendar of history.
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 09:15:00 AM
I can't express the gravity of this situation, both Trump's move and the Saudi King trying to bring S/A out of the 7th century are earth shaking events.
First Trump is making America king of oil production, we set the global rates, not OPEC, and S/A is making the move to kill off radicals of their so called religion, even possibly bringing some semblance of peace to the M/E, along with destroying the maker of terrorists, S/A Clerics.
This is huge on the calendar of history.
Without a doubt. You'd think the libs would champion this...
Quote from: taxed on October 26, 2017, 09:22:24 AM
Without a doubt. You'd think the libs would champion this...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Trump success?
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 09:25:51 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Trump success?
His oil plays were amazing.... He got SA's and Russia's attention...
Quote from: taxed on October 26, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
His oil plays were amazing.... He got SA's and Russia's attention...
Good point, Russia survives off its oil production, and this means competitive prices for the EU, undercutting Russian profits in a huge way, maybe even shifting their buying practices to the US. :thumbsup:
The cynic in me says he's doing this for financial reasons but I'll take it.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 26, 2017, 06:34:58 PM
The cynic in me says he's doing this for financial reasons but I'll take it.
I think Trump told him he doesn't give a shit about OPEC and the price said, OK, I'll start selling off our oil interests.
Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
I think Trump told him he doesn't give a shit about OPEC and the price said, OK, I'll start selling off our oil interests.
The Saudis are unique. They have always backed terrorists but always keep them at arms length because they have a good thing going with all that money. They don't want that to go away. That's why they don't like Iran. True extremists don't mind living in caves for the cause. The Saudis like their palaces. And now Trump kicked them where it hurts. The wallet. Looks like they are willing to jump through hoops now to keep the money flowing.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 26, 2017, 06:57:29 PM
The Saudis are unique. They have always backed terrorists but always keep them at arms length because they have a good thing going with all that money. They don't want that to go away. That's why they don't like Iran. True extremists don't mind living in caves for the cause. The Saudis like their palaces. And now Trump kicked them where it hurts. The wallet. Looks like they are willing to jump through hoops now to keep the money flowing.
:biggrin:
There is some truth in that. The Prince, unlike the clerics who are still living in the 7th century, he is looking to the future and planning the largest city in the world.
For me, that really is a Hell, but that's his dream, a place of flying cars and automated taxis, and the tech is here now, he just wants to be the first to build his version of Utopia.
I have a feeling this doesn't sit well with the religious cast, but he is only 34, as is half the nation under 25 and rejecting the religious sect.
No matter how you slice it, this is huge on a historical level and cultural shift from the past to the future.
Funny, so much change is taking place, with Trump shaking up the old "business as usual" bull shit between both party's, the Dim party's collapse, leftism around the world suffering a kick to the nuts, RINO bailing like rats on a sinking Chinese Junk, Hollyweird being ripped open and exposing its pedophile connection with the Dim party to the world.
The list is endless and every day it's something new, as well as old news compounding with the new, exacerbating the old problems.
Times are changing and we are a small part of making that history come to fruition by hammering our message daily and standing firm on our core principles.
Yeah, I'm enjoying the ride now and no longer stressing whether or not we'll see America return to its roots, come 2018, I believe we will finally be able to celebrate success of Conservatism/TEA.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 26, 2017, 06:34:58 PM
The cynic in me says he's doing this for financial reasons but I'll take it.
Quite frankly, SA doing things for financial reasons is not bad.
Looks like he's cleaning house.
In Shocking Purge, Saudi King Arrests Billionaire Prince Bin Talal, Dozens Of Others In Cabinet Crackdown
In a shocking development, Saudi press Al Mayadeen reported late on Saturday that prominent billionaire, member of the royal Saudi family, and one of the biggest shareholders of Citi, News Corp. and Twitter - not to mention frequent CNBC guest - Al-Waleed bin Talal, along with ten senior princes, and some 38 ministers, has been arrested for corruption and money laundering charges on orders from the new anti-corruption committee headed by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, while Royal princes' private planes have been grounded.
Among those fired and/or arrested are the head of National Royal Guards, Miteb Bin Abdullah, the Minister of Economy and Planning, Adel Fakeih, and Admiral Abdullah bin Sultan bin Mohammed Al-Sultan, the Commander of the Saudi Naval Forces.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/shocking-purge-saudi-king-arrests-billionaire-prince-bin-talal-others-anti-money-lau
I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of crackdown on terror financing that certain members of the House of Suad have engaged in over the years. I think this AL Waleed was also a big supporter of Obamao and a Hillary donor as well.
Maybe the King has decided that since Trump has his back it is time to kick a little ass and take some names.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 05, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of crackdown on terror financing that certain members of the House of Suad have engaged in over the years. I think this AL Waleed was also a big supporter of Obamao and a Hillary donor as well.
Maybe the King has decided that since Trump has his back it is time to kick a little ass and take some names.
We probably will never know the reasons behind BUT one thing is certain and proven over the years, DO NOT TRUST THE SAUDIS. :thumbdown:
Quote from: nzone on November 05, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
We probably will never know the reasons behind BUT one thing is certain and proven over the years, DO NOT TRUST THE SAUDIS. :thumbdown:
"DO NOT TRUST THE SAUDIS."
No truer words have ever been spoken. No one in the ME but the Israeli's can be trusted. Any alliances are alliances of convenience and they are all temporary.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 06, 2017, 03:39:58 AM
"DO NOT TRUST THE SAUDIS."
No truer words have ever been spoken. No one in the ME but the Israeli's can be trusted. Any alliances are alliances of convenience and they are all temporary.
Hit the nail on the head again. Guessing here that obama did so much for iran that saudi is getting nervous and would like to get in good graces. (at least for the time being)
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 05, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of crackdown on terror financing that certain members of the House of Suad have engaged in over the years. I think this AL Waleed was also a big supporter of Obamao and a Hillary donor as well.
Maybe the King has decided that since Trump has his back it is time to kick a little ass and take some names.
What a way to go to the SLAMMER? :ttoung:
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/11/05/reports-arrested-saudi-princes-held-luxury-ritz-carlton-riyadh/
Quote from: nzone on November 05, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
We probably will never know the reasons behind BUT one thing is certain and proven over the years, DO NOT TRUST THE SAUDIS. :thumbdown:
I think you need to put this in perspective, this Prince is a serious reformer. We could actually see an end to Wahabi terrorists coming out of the M/E because of this guy.
Keep in mind, this has been coming to a head during most of the 20th century, only to boil over under the Marxists admin, and now this mess is involving the podesta's corruption as well as the Clinton campaign/DNC.
Once again, people, myself included, underestimated Trump's business savvy ways, and decided that what was best for the US, was to side with this reformer.
You are correct in not wanting to trust Saudis, but I believe this Prince may be the real deal in wanting to end the corruption in his country and become one of our biggest allies to date.
Time will tell, but I actually trust Trump's judgment here.
Case in point. Just try searching google for good news regarding Trump's meeting with the Saudi Prince, and all you'll get is a bunch of doom and gloom, as well as snide BS claiming that Trump, (___________________) fill in the blank.
However, if you look at other press around the globe you'll find quite the opposite.
Saudi deputy crown prince calls Donald Trump a 'true friend of Muslims' after White House meeting
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/saudi-arabia-donald-trump-deputy-crown-prince-mohammed-bin-salman-true-friend-muslims-white-house-a7630546.html
Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
I think you need to put this in perspective, this Prince is a serious reformer. We could actually see an end to Wahabi terrorists coming out of the M/E because of this guy.
Keep in mind, this has been coming to a head during most of the 20th century, only to boil over under the Marxists admin, and now this mess is involving the podesta's corruption as well as the Clinton campaign/DNC.
Once again, people, myself included, underestimated Trump's business savvy ways, and decided that what was best for the US, was to side with this reformer.
You are correct in not wanting to trust Saudis, but I believe this Prince may be the real deal in wanting to end the corruption in his country and become one of our biggest allies to date.
Time will tell, but I actually trust Trump's judgment here.
The biggest threat from the Wahabbi's is to the House of Saud. The terror threat from within Saudi Arabia has always been ULTIMATELY to Saudi Arabia. This was the deal with Usama Bin Laudin, he wanted to overthrow the house of Saud. This is looking more and more like anti coup-coup, there is some evidence that there was a "missile launch" today possibly backed by Iran..........?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/world/middleeast/yemen-saudi-iran-missile.html
I have said this time and time again, the greatest threat to the other Gulf states is Iran, Israel is a faint, they intent to have Mecca and Medina to complete their take over and total control of Islam.
I think perhaps this "deal" was worked out when Trump made his first visit to SA for his first visit and started talking about "terrorism". And No this doesn't earn our trust, but it may be that they are upholding their end of a deal.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 06, 2017, 11:42:19 AM
The biggest threat from the Wahabbi's is to the House of Saud. The terror threat from within Saudi Arabia has always been ULTIMATELY to Saudi Arabia. This was the deal with Usama Bin Laudin, he wanted to overthrow the house of Saud. This is looking more and more like anti coup-coup, there is some evidence that there was a "missile launch" today possibly backed by Iran..........?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/world/middleeast/yemen-saudi-iran-missile.html
I have said this time and time again, the greatest threat to the other Gulf states is Iran, Israel is a faint, they intent to have Mecca and Medina to complete their take over and total control of Islam.
I think perhaps this "deal" was worked out when Trump made his first visit to SA for his first visit and started talking about "terrorism". And No this doesn't earn our trust, but it may be that they are upholding their end of a deal.
Yep, it was fired by the Houthi tribe from Iran.
I do see this as a war on the Wahabi power base, I just hope beyond hope the Prince succeeds, even the people are behind his purge of the elites in the country, so he has the people on his side, a people that are sick of being suppressed by the religious police.
It seems this prince understands Wahabi philosophy cannot mesh with free market ideals. The Saudis enjoy the benefits of their economy.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 06, 2017, 12:25:18 PM
It seems this prince understands Wahabi philosophy cannot mesh with free market ideals. The Saudis enjoy the benefits of their economy.
Nor is it good for tourism. Some poor guy does something they had no idea was against religious tolerance and winds up in jail.
The Prince wants to allow women the right to drive, talk to men, etc, things are changing really fast, and this is good all the way around.
Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2017, 12:36:23 PM
Nor is it good for tourism. Some poor guy does something they had no idea was against religious tolerance and winds up in jail.
The Prince wants to allow women the right to drive, talk to men, etc, things are changing really fast, and this is good all the way around.
This is a good thing but as Regan always said 'TRUST but verify" Given the SAUDI history maybe bury the hatchet but don't forget where you buried it. :sneaky:
Quote from: nzone on November 06, 2017, 03:29:01 PM
This is a good thing but as Regan always said 'TRUST but verify" Given the SAUDI history maybe bury the hatchet but don't forget where you buried it. :sneaky:
I always keep my Cherokee Tomahawks in plain site.
They have worked as a deterrent more than once. :lol:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 05, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of crackdown on terror financing that certain members of the House of Suad have engaged in over the years. I think this AL Waleed was also a big supporter of Obamao and a Hillary donor as well.
Maybe the King has decided that since Trump has his back it is time to kick a little ass and take some names.
Well, I hope you're correct, but I think there's a lot more to this ... meanwhile the region is more unstable than ever and the Saudis are declaring that the bomb fired at Yemen from Iran is an act of war. What a mess this could wind up being ... hopefully Trump and Putin can come to some sort of agreement this weekend; though Putin shouldn't be trusted.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/world/middleeast/yemen-saudi-iran-missile.html
...and to add fuel to the fire; the UN is as usual dissing Israel. Yes indeed, the ME is a ticking time bomb and we have the Pillsbury Pop'n Fresh dough boy over in Asia throwing a hissy fit; add to this the unhinged left in the U.S. and we have a recipe for complete chaos. God help us.
Nikki Haley: Unless UN rights council reforms, US is out
.......The United States is ready to pull out of the UN Human Rights Council unless it institutes reforms, including removing Israel as a permanent item on its agenda, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley told an Israeli American audience.
"The Human Rights Council will either adopt these reforms, or the United States will leave," Haley said to applause at the annual Washington conference of the Israeli American Council. ....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nikki-haley-unless-un-rights-council-reforms-us-is-out/
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 06, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
...and to add fuel to the fire; the UN is as usual dissing Israel. Yes indeed, the ME is a ticking time bomb and we have the Pillsbury Pop'n Fresh dough boy over in Asia throwing a hissy fit; add to this the unhinged left in the U.S. and we have a recipe for complete chaos. God help us.
Nikki Haley: Unless UN rights council reforms, US is out
.......The United States is ready to pull out of the UN Human Rights Council unless it institutes reforms, including removing Israel as a permanent item on its agenda, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley told an Israeli American audience.
"The Human Rights Council will either adopt these reforms, or the United States will leave," Haley said to applause at the annual Washington conference of the Israeli American Council. ....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nikki-haley-unless-un-rights-council-reforms-us-is-out/
I say lets do it right, pull out of the UN all together!
Quote from: walkstall on November 06, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
I say lets do it right, pull out of the UN all together!
Absolutely agree with you !00%!
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 06, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
...and to add fuel to the fire; the UN is as usual dissing Israel. Yes indeed, the ME is a ticking time bomb and we have the Pillsbury Pop'n Fresh dough boy over in Asia throwing a hissy fit; add to this the unhinged left in the U.S. and we have a recipe for complete chaos. God help us.
Nikki Haley: Unless UN rights council reforms, US is out
.......The United States is ready to pull out of the UN Human Rights Council unless it institutes reforms, including removing Israel as a permanent item on its agenda, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley told an Israeli American audience.
"The Human Rights Council will either adopt these reforms, or the United States will leave," Haley said to applause at the annual Washington conference of the Israeli American Council. ....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nikki-haley-unless-un-rights-council-reforms-us-is-out/
Who's that?
Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2017, 05:44:23 PM
Who's that?
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Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 06, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
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Ah, you said Asia, not NK, so I had no idea who you meant.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 06, 2017, 05:55:37 PM
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The three in back look fill with astonishment that something got off the ground. The fat boy looks happy something did get off the ground. :lol:
That's one non hairstyle.
Quote from: Ms.Independence on November 06, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
...and to add fuel to the fire; the UN is as usual dissing Israel. Yes indeed, the ME is a ticking time bomb and we have the Pillsbury Pop'n Fresh dough boy over in Asia throwing a hissy fit; add to this the unhinged left in the U.S. and we have a recipe for complete chaos. God help us.
Nikki Haley: Unless UN rights council reforms, US is out
.......The United States is ready to pull out of the UN Human Rights Council unless it institutes reforms, including removing Israel as a permanent item on its agenda, US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley told an Israeli American audience.
"The Human Rights Council will either adopt these reforms, or the United States will leave," Haley said to applause at the annual Washington conference of the Israeli American Council. ....
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nikki-haley-unless-un-rights-council-reforms-us-is-out/
Getting back to the topic.
This is just one more piece of Trump's move for MAGA, (Make America Great Again) by telling the world, we're in charge, we will put American interests first, and screw those that don't agree.
I suspect another move will be to cut funding to nations, that neither need nor deserve our support.
I swear, I'm really starting to warm up to Trump.
The end of Wahabi Terrorists? I like this Prince! :thumbup:
BURAIDA, Saudi Arabia — For decades, Saudi Arabia's religious establishment wielded tremendous power, with bearded enforcers policing public behavior, prominent sheikhs defining right and wrong, and religious associations using the kingdom's oil wealth to promote their intolerant interpretation of Islam around the world.
Now, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is curbing their power as part of his drive to impose his control on the kingdom and press for a more open brand of Islam.
Before the arrests on Saturday of his fellow royals and former ministers on corruption allegations, Prince Mohammed had stripped the religious police of their arrest powers and expanded the space for women in public life, including promising them the right to drive.
Dozens of hard-line clerics have been detained, while others were designated to speak publicly about respect for other religions, a topic once anathema to the kingdom's religious apparatus.
If the changes take hold, they could mean a historic reordering of the Saudi state by diminishing the role of hard-line clerics in shaping policy. That shift could reverberate abroad by moderating the exportation of the kingdom's uncompromising version of Islam, Wahhabism, which has been accused of fueling intolerance and terrorism.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/05/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-wahhabism-salafism-mohammed-bin-salman.html
Telling the UN to GTFO of America will likely be Trump's grandest achievement. The wall will be a close second.
The caterwauling of the left upon hearing of the eviction of the UN.... may rival the hysterics for Hillary's loss.
It will be every holiday ever rolled into one.
Moving the UN HQ to Lebanon or Africa, where it's actually needed, will cause 99% of the people involved to say "fook dis, I'm not doing this if I can't live in NYC, and I have to actually talk to the rabble".
Saudi authorities net $106 billion in corruption settlements
A wide-reaching anti-corruption campaign shrouded in secrecy and intrigue has netted more than $106 billion in financial settlements with 56 people remaining in custody, Saudi Arabia said on Tuesday.
Saudi Attorney General Saud al-Mojeb said the settlements reached include seizure of real estate assets, commercial entities, securities and cash.
The statement did not disclose further details on the types of businesses or real estate that was acquired. An earlier statement by the government incorrectly identified 65 people as still being held.
Al-Mojeb said a total of 381 people had been questioned in connection with the anti-corruption campaign, which began Nov. 4 and is being spearheaded by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
Last week, al-Mojeb said 90 people had been released after agreeing to financial settlements and that 95 were still being held. It appears close to 40 were released since then.
Among those released over the weekend was billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, who is chairman of Kingdom Holding and has investments in major Western firms such as Twitter, Apple, Lyft and Citigroup.
He had been detained for more than 80 days at the luxurious Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh, where dozens of high-profile figures were held, questioned and pressured into forfeiting significant financial assets in exchange for their release. It was not immediately known what kind of settlement Prince Alwaleed had agreed to.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/saudi-authorities-net-106-billion-corruption-settlements-52699924
Quote from: Solar on January 30, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
Saudi authorities net $106 billion in corruption settlements
A wide-reaching anti-corruption campaign shrouded in secrecy and intrigue has netted more than $106 billion in financial settlements with 56 people remaining in custody, Saudi Arabia said on Tuesday.
Saudi Attorney General Saud al-Mojeb said the settlements reached include seizure of real estate assets, commercial entities, securities and cash.
The statement did not disclose further details on the types of businesses or real estate that was acquired. An earlier statement by the government incorrectly identified 65 people as still being held.
Al-Mojeb said a total of 381 people had been questioned in connection with the anti-corruption campaign, which began Nov. 4 and is being spearheaded by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
Last week, al-Mojeb said 90 people had been released after agreeing to financial settlements and that 95 were still being held. It appears close to 40 were released since then.
Among those released over the weekend was billionaire Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, who is chairman of Kingdom Holding and has investments in major Western firms such as Twitter, Apple, Lyft and Citigroup.
He had been detained for more than 80 days at the luxurious Ritz-Carlton hotel in Riyadh, where dozens of high-profile figures were held, questioned and pressured into forfeiting significant financial assets in exchange for their release. It was not immediately known what kind of settlement Prince Alwaleed had agreed to.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/saudi-authorities-net-106-billion-corruption-settlements-52699924
Talk about draining the swamp!
Quote from: supsalemgr on January 31, 2018, 04:17:46 AM
Talk about draining the swamp!
There went the DNC money men. This literally kneecapped the DNC, Saudi Arabia was what brought us the Illegal Marxist.
Quotehas netted more than $106 billion in financial settlements
So IF you have the money you can buy your way out of a Plush Hotel Prison.
Quote from: walkstall on January 31, 2018, 07:06:07 AM
So IF you have the money you can buy your way out of a Plush Hotel Prison.
I wouldn't say they bought their way out, they literally confiscated every dime these scum had, including all assets, from business to cars.
In other words, they kneecapped their only power, money.
Quote from: Solar on January 31, 2018, 07:23:14 AM
I wouldn't say they bought their way out, they literally confiscated every dime these scum had, including all assets, from business to cars.
In other words, they kneecapped their only power, money.
So, what was the motivation of MBS? Was it truly anti corruption or is consolidating money for whatever reason?
Is he a white turbin, ERRR hat?
Some insight if your like me and havnt researched....seems good intentioned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E)
Quote from: Sauce on January 31, 2018, 07:40:37 AM
So, what was the motivation of MBS? Was it truly anti corruption or is consolidating money for whatever reason?
Is he a white turbin, ERRR hat?
Some insight if your like me and havnt researched....seems good intentioned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E)
Wow only after a
three-month investigation That did not that them long. The FBI could learn something and save the taxpayers money.
Quote from: Sauce on January 31, 2018, 07:40:37 AM
So, what was the motivation of MBS? Was it truly anti corruption or is consolidating money for whatever reason?
Is he a white turbin, ERRR hat?
Some insight if your like me and havnt researched....seems good intentioned
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/anti-corruption-purge-nets-more-than-100bn-saudi-arabia-claims)
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-arrests-corruption/saudi-arabia-says-it-has-seized-over-100-billion-in-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FJ28E)
Most definitely a White Hat. I posted about this long before it hit the news cycle and how important this was to killing the Clinton machine as well as the DNC fundraising capabilities, which in truth were Marxist foreign entities funneling money through the Clinton Foundation.
This is proof of Trump's understanding of Foreign Policy and his reach and commitment to ending Marxism around the globe.
Here is the original thread.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/saudi-crown-prince-wants-to-bring-sa-out-of-the-7th-century/