Update In Reply #42 Saudi Crown Prince

Started by Solar, October 26, 2017, 06:30:39 AM

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If true? This is fuckin Huge!!!
For decades the King allowed the Clerics to educate the masses, (See Wahabism) this is what brought the world terrorism, teaching the warped version of their prophet pedophile.
If successful, he could end most terrorist activities within 30 years, and young enough to accomplish it.

Ya know, we had our own President did what the Saudi King did, in allowing a warped ideology to take complete control of our educational system and teach our kids that Marxism isn't as bad as the world claims it is.


That POTUS was GW Bush, and the recipient was Marxist Teddy Kenedy, the gentleman that refused to open a car door for a lady back in the 60s. (underwater, that is)



'Moderate Saudi Arabia': crown prince shakes up kingdom

Riyadh (AFP) - Unveiling blueprints for a futuristic landscape with robots and driverless cars, Saudi Arabia's young crown prince outlined his most emphatic vision yet to transform the ultra-conservative kingdom as he sought to charm investors.

In a rare public appearance Tuesday at an investor summit in Riyadh -- dubbed "Davos in the desert" -- Mohammed bin Salman pledged a "moderate" Saudi Arabia, long seen as an exporter of a brand of puritanical Islam espoused by jihadists worldwide.

The speech came as the 32-year-old prince oversees reforms that mark the biggest cultural and economic shake-up in the kingdom's modern history, while sidelining powerful clergy who have long dominated the public discourse.

"We will not spend the next 30 years of our lives dealing with destructive ideas. We will destroy them today and at once," Prince Mohammed told global business titans gathered in a chandelier-studded ballroom for the Future Investment Initiative.

MBS, as he is well known, promised his kingdom will return to "what we were before -- a country of moderate Islam that is tolerant of all religions and to the world".

His comment, while unveiling plans for a $500 billion development zone spread on the kingdom's western coast, chimes with his public image of a bold liberal reformer in a conservative country where more than half the population is under 25.

"I think this is the clearest articulation we've heard so far about where the crown prince plans to take Saudi," Lori Boghardt, from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told AFP.

"It's clear the crown prince is set on dramatically transforming the kingdom. This especially includes a quieter and less influential ultraconservative religious sphere."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/moderate-saudi-arabia-crown-prince-shakes-kingdom-143008135.html
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Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 06:30:39 AM
If true? This is fuckin Huge!!!
For decades the King allowed the Clerics to educate the masses, (See Wahabism) this is what brought the world terrorism, teaching the warped version of their prophet pedophile.
If successful, he could end most terrorist activities within 30 years, and young enough to accomplish it.

Ya know, we had our own President did what the Saudi King did, in allowing a warped ideology to take complete control of our educational system and teach our kids that Marxism isn't as bad as the world claims it is.


That POTUS was GW Bush, and the recipient was Marxist Teddy Kenedy, the gentleman that refused to open a car door for a lady back in the 60s. (underwater, that is)



'Moderate Saudi Arabia': crown prince shakes up kingdom

Riyadh (AFP) - Unveiling blueprints for a futuristic landscape with robots and driverless cars, Saudi Arabia's young crown prince outlined his most emphatic vision yet to transform the ultra-conservative kingdom as he sought to charm investors.

In a rare public appearance Tuesday at an investor summit in Riyadh -- dubbed "Davos in the desert" -- Mohammed bin Salman pledged a "moderate" Saudi Arabia, long seen as an exporter of a brand of puritanical Islam espoused by jihadists worldwide.

The speech came as the 32-year-old prince oversees reforms that mark the biggest cultural and economic shake-up in the kingdom's modern history, while sidelining powerful clergy who have long dominated the public discourse.

"We will not spend the next 30 years of our lives dealing with destructive ideas. We will destroy them today and at once," Prince Mohammed told global business titans gathered in a chandelier-studded ballroom for the Future Investment Initiative.

MBS, as he is well known, promised his kingdom will return to "what we were before -- a country of moderate Islam that is tolerant of all religions and to the world".

His comment, while unveiling plans for a $500 billion development zone spread on the kingdom's western coast, chimes with his public image of a bold liberal reformer in a conservative country where more than half the population is under 25.

"I think this is the clearest articulation we've heard so far about where the crown prince plans to take Saudi," Lori Boghardt, from the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told AFP.

"It's clear the crown prince is set on dramatically transforming the kingdom. This especially includes a quieter and less influential ultraconservative religious sphere."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/moderate-saudi-arabia-crown-prince-shakes-kingdom-143008135.html

I wish him good fortune with this effort. His vision is quite rare in Muslim countries. If he is successful SA will become the dominant country in the ME by far. It will be very difficult. Most clerics will be openly opposed. Also, there will be hardliners who will resist. I don't like nation building, but support helping a country dump the chains of an outdated philosophy.
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I hope this is true but looking at history of the Saudi's and the US at best a MAYBE. They have played the US for years, Bush, Clinton,Bush, Obama and now TRUMP. They play both ends toward the middle and act like they are our friends BUT stab us in the back every chance they get. LOOK who sponsor Terrorism ? Look behind the NEWS TALKING POINTS and you will find a SAUDI. 9/11 SAUDI's sponsor and BUSH flew them out of the country when a NO FLY rule in effect. WHY ? Al QAEDA = Saudi personnel and MONEY. ISIS = SAUDI money again. They are doing the same BS on TRUMP because he is tapping the US Energy reserves which we have for decades. They are scared of TRUMP and are kissing ass now and if he CAVES they will screw us in a heartbeat like they always have done before. I sat in line waiting for Gasoline TRUCK to show up and still POed ABOUT IT because of the Saudis thought the US had to much energy. BS stick a knife in them they are DONE. :sneaky:

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Quote from: nzone on October 26, 2017, 08:30:32 AM
I hope this is true but looking at history of the Saudi's and the US at best a MAYBE. They have played the US for years, Bush, Clinton,Bush, Obama and now TRUMP. They play both ends toward the middle and act like they are our friends BUT stab us in the back every chance they get. LOOK who sponsor Terrorism ? Look behind the NEWS TALKING POINTS and you will find a SAUDI. 9/11 SAUDI's sponsor and BUSH flew them out of the country when a NO FLY rule in effect. WHY ? Al QAEDA = Saudi personnel and MONEY. ISIS = SAUDI money again. They are doing the same BS on TRUMP because he is tapping the US Energy reserves which we have for decades. They are scared of TRUMP and are kissing ass now and if he CAVES they will screw us in a heartbeat like they always have done before. I sat in line waiting for Gasoline TRUCK to show up and still POed ABOUT IT because of the Saudis thought the US had to much energy. BS stick a knife in them they are DONE. :sneaky:
I think you might be missing the bigger point here. Trump pretty much told OPEC to screw themselves, something S/A was the leader of and all the other OPEC nations followed suit.
But more importantly, Saudi is selling off its oil interests for the first time in its history.
Then as evidence that Trump isn't caving to S/A historical demands, he opened the biggest oil reserve lease sale in US history, something former Presidents refused to do, bowing to the will of S/A King Abdullah.

Times are changing for the better, this is a huge event in history, one people will look back on with sincere admiration of Trump, but you won't hear it from the media for decades to come.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/trump-offers-76m-acres-offshore-drilling-largest-lease-sale-in-history/
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 26, 2017, 07:51:50 AM
I wish him good fortune with this effort. His vision is quite rare in Muslim countries. If he is successful SA will become the dominant country in the ME by far. It will be very difficult. Most clerics will be openly opposed. Also, there will be hardliners who will resist. I don't like nation building, but support helping a country dump the chains of an outdated philosophy.
Yes, remember Sadat, or Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran? Both wanted what was best for their people and both suffered at the hands of radical Wahabis.
I hope he has a handpicked military guard, he's going to need it very soon.
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This is amazing... and with Chinese president... things are changing...
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Quote from: taxed on October 26, 2017, 09:10:05 AM
This is amazing... and with Chinese president... things are changing...
I can't express the gravity of this situation, both Trump's move and the Saudi King trying to bring S/A out of the 7th century are earth shaking events.
First Trump is making America king of oil production, we set the global rates, not OPEC, and S/A is making the move to kill off radicals of their so called religion, even possibly bringing some semblance of peace to the M/E, along with destroying the maker of terrorists, S/A Clerics.

This is huge on the calendar of history.
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Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 09:15:00 AM
I can't express the gravity of this situation, both Trump's move and the Saudi King trying to bring S/A out of the 7th century are earth shaking events.
First Trump is making America king of oil production, we set the global rates, not OPEC, and S/A is making the move to kill off radicals of their so called religion, even possibly bringing some semblance of peace to the M/E, along with destroying the maker of terrorists, S/A Clerics.

This is huge on the calendar of history.

Without a doubt.  You'd think the libs would champion this...
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Quote from: taxed on October 26, 2017, 09:28:53 AM
His oil plays were amazing....  He got SA's and Russia's attention...
Good point, Russia survives off its oil production, and this means competitive prices for the EU, undercutting Russian profits in a huge way, maybe even shifting their buying practices to the US. :thumbsup:
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The cynic in me says he's doing this for financial reasons but I'll take it.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 26, 2017, 06:34:58 PM
The cynic in me says he's doing this for financial reasons but I'll take it.
I think Trump told him he doesn't give a shit about OPEC and the price said, OK, I'll start selling off our oil interests.
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Quote from: Solar on October 26, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
I think Trump told him he doesn't give a shit about OPEC and the price said, OK, I'll start selling off our oil interests.

The Saudis are unique. They have always backed terrorists but always keep them at arms length because they have a good thing going with all that money. They don't want that to go away. That's why they don't like Iran. True extremists don't mind living in caves for the cause. The Saudis like their palaces. And now Trump kicked them where it hurts. The wallet. Looks like they are willing to jump through hoops now to keep the money flowing.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 26, 2017, 06:57:29 PM
The Saudis are unique. They have always backed terrorists but always keep them at arms length because they have a good thing going with all that money. They don't want that to go away. That's why they don't like Iran. True extremists don't mind living in caves for the cause. The Saudis like their palaces. And now Trump kicked them where it hurts. The wallet. Looks like they are willing to jump through hoops now to keep the money flowing.
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There is some truth in that. The Prince, unlike the clerics who are still living in the 7th century, he is looking to the future and planning the largest city in the world.
For me, that really is a Hell, but that's his dream, a place of flying cars and automated taxis, and the tech is here now, he just wants to be the first to build his version of Utopia.
I have a feeling this doesn't sit well with the religious cast, but he is only 34, as is half the nation under 25 and rejecting the religious sect.

No matter how you slice it, this is huge on a historical level and cultural shift from the past to the future.
Funny, so much change is taking place, with Trump shaking up the old "business as usual" bull shit between both party's, the Dim party's collapse, leftism around the world suffering a kick to the nuts, RINO bailing like rats on a sinking Chinese Junk, Hollyweird being ripped open and exposing its pedophile connection with the Dim party to the world.
The list is endless and every day it's something new, as well as old news compounding with the new, exacerbating the old problems.

Times are changing and we are a small part of making that history come to fruition by hammering our message daily and standing firm on our core principles.
Yeah, I'm enjoying the ride now and no longer stressing whether or not we'll see America return to its roots, come 2018, I believe we will finally be able to celebrate success of Conservatism/TEA.
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