Ryan Faced off With Conservatives Yesterday

Started by Solar, March 25, 2017, 10:47:42 AM

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Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
Am I the only one seeing RINO getting their asses kicked? :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQ9a5EFZeI
Don't know, You see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, I see it as the rino's getting their butt kicked, most of the people here see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, but to the average person on the street, I think they see it as the republicans got their ass kicked by the dims who held together and "saved Obamacare" or some b.s. like that. Trump has two ways to go from here on to get something passed, work with the dims or work with the conservatives, he does not have enough rinos. Wonder which direction he will go?

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Quote from: s3779m on March 26, 2017, 05:48:49 PM
Don't know, You see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, I see it as the rino's getting their butt kicked, most of the people here see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, but to the average person on the street, I think they see it as the republicans got their ass kicked by the dims who held together and "saved Obamacare" or some b.s. like that. Trump has two ways to go from here on to get something passed, work with the dims or work with the conservatives, he does not have enough rinos. Wonder which direction he will go?
Yeah, you and I know the truth, but based on the comments I'm seeing, the LSM narrative is spinning it as a Dim win for doing nothing.
I just thought the videos were witty, in that for the first time since the 60s the RINO were getting their asses kicked, Hell, since their infection of the GOP.
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Quote from: s3779m on March 26, 2017, 05:48:49 PM
Don't know, You see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, I see it as the rino's getting their butt kicked, most of the people here see it as the rinos getting their butt kicked, but to the average person on the street, I think they see it as the republicans got their ass kicked by the dims who held together and "saved Obamacare" or some b.s. like that. Trump has two ways to go from here on to get something passed, work with the dims or work with the conservatives, he does not have enough rinos. Wonder which direction he will go?

The liberal leftist mental midgets in all of their infinite wisdom see this as a win for the DEMS.  I see it as a win for conservatism.  Even IF the bill would have made it through the House it would have died in the Senate.  What Pres. Trump truly needs to realize is that those conservatives in the House didn't vote against him, but against a lousy bill that didn't represent what the people wanted and those in the Senate, such as Cruz, Lee and Paul weren't going to vote for a lousy bill that didn't give the people what they wanted. 

I find it troubling that Trump went along with Ryan; either that or he fully didn't have a clue as to what was really in the bill and just went by the garbage Ryan and the rest of the RINO's fed him.  Either way, Trump got his handed to him and rightfully so.  As I have stated many times in the past; liberalism isn't working now, hasn't worked in the past and won't work in the future!
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A big win for the Dims? :lol: :lol: Lets see, They still do not have the house, the senate or the presidency! This bill was thrown together to fast and had no chance in the senate. Lessons have been learned ( I hope ) This will come up again (hopefully with just a flat repeal bill) but the next time any major legislation is pushed forward I suspect the republican house and senate to pull together before pushing a floor vote!
I don't see where any damage was done except to the RINO's that pushed this thing. They are only 70 days into this administration and working a learning curve! I think there will be adjustments made.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 26, 2017, 06:47:14 PM
Could Ryan actually spot a conservative?
Sure he could, all he has to look for is someone with morals, convictions, scruples, core values, the ability to recognize right from wrong and knowing when to do the right thing.
Oh wait, this is Ryan we're talking about, so no, only an elephant with a big stick will get through to his dumb ass.
Like McCain, lying and treason are in their blood.
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Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2017, 06:59:53 PM
Sure he could, all he has to look for is someone with morals, convictions, scruples, core values, the ability to recognize right from wrong and knowing when to do the right thing.
Oh wait, this is Ryan we're talking about, so no, only an elephant with a big stick will get through to his dumb ass.
Like McCain, lying and treason are in their blood.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

So unless they are wearing a sash that reads "conservative" Ryan and McCain would never have a chance and McCain would continue wandering around saying "I was in the war, you know".

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 26, 2017, 07:07:27 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

So unless they are wearing a sash that reads "conservative" Ryan and McCain would never have a chance and McCain would continue wandering around saying "I was in the war, you know".
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that worked out so well for Kerry, you know, "the guy that was in Vietnam"?
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Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2017, 07:34:14 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeah, that worked out so well for Kerry, you know, "the guy that was in Vietnam"?

He was the only vet in Vietnam that had his own film crew following him around.

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Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2017, 05:58:27 PM
Yeah, you and I know the truth, but based on the comments I'm seeing, the LSM narrative is spinning it as a Dim win for doing nothing.
I just thought the videos were witty, in that for the first time since the 60s the RINO were getting their asses kicked, Hell, since their infection of the GOP.

I am glad the MSM is spinning this was a WIN for the dems. It just solidifies that they own Obamacare.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on March 27, 2017, 04:30:53 AM
I am glad the MSM is spinning this was a WIN for the dems. It just solidifies that they own Obamacare.
It's time we started playing the leftist game of "Spin the Story", by hiring a PR firm and get out ahead of these things, seize the narrative, put the Marxists on the defensive for a change.
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Quote from: redbeard on March 26, 2017, 06:54:47 PM
A big win for the Dims? :lol: :lol: Lets see, They still do not have the house, the senate or the presidency! This bill was thrown together to fast and had no chance in the senate. Lessons have been learned ( I hope ) This will come up again (hopefully with just a flat repeal bill) but the next time any major legislation is pushed forward I suspect the republican house and senate to pull together before pushing a floor vote!
I don't see where any damage was done except to the RINO's that pushed this thing. They are only 70 days into this administration and working a learning curve! I think there will be adjustments made.

I agree - learning curve. It takes awhile to calibrate the factions.

zewazir

What we have here, ladies and gentlemen, is the equivalent of a three-party congress.  The Dims, the RINOs, and the Freedom Caucus Conservatives. With a three way split, two of the factions will need to cooperate to get anything done.

Now the question is which combination will form to push through new legislation? Rinos and Dims get along pretty well. But I believe the Rinos are starting to figure out that going Dim is more and more likely to result in a pink slip next election. (TEA associations nation wide need to start getting vocal, just to reinforce that idea in the coming months....)

Dims and Freedom Caucus? The only reason they voted the same way on Ryan-care was because neither wanted it passed - but for entirely difference reasons. They may vote down things together, but in now way can they be considered working together.

So it seems the only way to actually get something PASSED (as opposed to blocked) will be for the Rinos and FC 'Pubs to work together. And when that happens, I believe we will be seeing TEA influence pulling Rinos to the right. The only question, how long until the Rinos start seeing the light?