Ruth Bader Ginsburg hospitalized, has heart surgery....

Started by TboneAgain, November 26, 2014, 11:55:46 AM

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TboneAgain

This was talked about before the midterms, but it's a good foretaste of the sort of impact elections can have. I got the story from HotAir.com, which links to a tweet from a Washington DC source.

If there's a single most impact-laden consequence of the midterms, it's the fact that we'll be able to halt the pell-mell stuffing of the federal courts with lib/prog judges. Hairy Weed and the Kenyan have been doing this quietly ever since Weed detonated the so-called "nuclear option" and killed the traditional Senate filibuster rules early this year.

But another judicial issue of huge importance is the Supreme Court. The Kenyan has already had two bites at that apple, and the result is two young, female, ethnic-minority, extreme-liberal justices -- Sotomayor and Kagan. If failing health takes Ginsburg out of the picture, the Kenyan gets a third bite, and if that happens when the Senate is in Weed's hands, it's catastrophe.

Think about this. If Kagan, who, like all SCOTUS appointees, was appointed for life, serves until she is Ginsburg's age (81), she'll be a Supreme Court Justice for the next 27 years. If Sotomayor manages the same feat, she'll be on that bench for the next 21 years.

If Ginsburg can get through this surgery and hang on for just another two months, we can effectively block a replacement for her until the Kenyan is out of office. If, on the other hand, we're not able to do that, we could lose one liberal justice (Ginsburg) only to be replaced by another, probably worse, and certainly younger and likely to be around for a very long time.

I like the way HotAir invoked the ghost of Reagan with its tag line: "Here's hoping that Ginsburg enjoys a speedy recovery and that her medical team consists entirely of Republicans."
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

Darth Fife

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 26, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
This was talked about before the midterms, but it's a good foretaste of the sort of impact elections can have. I got the story from HotAir.com, which links to a tweet from a Washington DC source.

If there's a single most impact-laden consequence of the midterms, it's the fact that we'll be able to halt the pell-mell stuffing of the federal courts with lib/prog judges. Hairy Weed and the Kenyan have been doing this quietly ever since Weed detonated the so-called "nuclear option" and killed the traditional Senate filibuster rules early this year.

But another judicial issue of huge importance is the Supreme Court. The Kenyan has already had two bites at that apple, and the result is two young, female, ethnic-minority, extreme-liberal justices -- Sotomayor and Kagan. If failing health takes Ginsburg out of the picture, the Kenyan gets a third bite, and if that happens when the Senate is in Weed's hands, it's catastrophe.

Think about this. If Kagan, who, like all SCOTUS appointees, was appointed for life, serves until she is Ginsburg's age (81), she'll be a Supreme Court Justice for the next 27 years. If Sotomayor manages the same feat, she'll be on that bench for the next 21 years.

If Ginsburg can get through this surgery and hang on for just another two months, we can effectively block a replacement for her until the Kenyan is out of office. If, on the other hand, we're not able to do that, we could lose one liberal justice (Ginsburg) only to be replaced by another, probably worse, and certainly younger and likely to be around for a very long time.

I like the way HotAir invoked the ghost of Reagan with its tag line: "Here's hoping that Ginsburg enjoys a speedy recovery and that her medical team consists entirely of Republicans."

I hear what you are saying, however:

1) It is unlikely that the newly Republican Senate will disapprove anyone that is to the Right (philosophically speaking) of Karl Marx! If they do, they MSM will scream RACISM! And, of course, the Senate will cave.

2) They whole problem is that when there is a Democrat in the White House, he/she will always appoint a Leftist activist judge to the Supreme Court. If there is a Republican in the White House, he/she will nearly always appoint a centrist, judicial scholar type.

Need I remind you that the vote to deem Obamacare Constitutional was cast by (supposedly) Conservative Justice John Roberts?

Darth

quiller

Yahoo News had this story about it and in it, mention of what Ginsburg has previously said about stepping down.... (Pictoral warning if you click the link.)

QuoteGinsburg, who was appointed by President Bill Clinton in 1993, has resisted calls from liberal activists that she should retire from the bench before President Barack Obama leaves office in early 2017.

In a July interview with Reuters, Ginsburg said she did not intend to leave the bench in the near future unless her health changed. She said she underwent regular medical check-ups for cancer and worked out twice a week with a personal trainer.

"Thank goodness I haven't slowed down," Ginsburg said at the time.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-supreme-court-justice-ginsburg-recovering-heart-procedure-153629086.html

Will she hold out until after 2016 elections before stepping down? Can her food-tasters help her survive against Obama, until then?

red_dirt

        The Supreme Court has turned into the Achilles Heel of the American system. It was never intended to turn out this way.  The intent of the founders was that the Supreme Court would rule on matters of the high seas, treason, and disputes between the states that could not be resolved by the high courts of the original states. There was never intended a court that would judge "the law of the land."  That developed as the ideals of the Constitutional Republic were gradually eroded by persistent lawyers and legislators picking away at the right of the states to govern themselves.
        This process of the federal government infringing on the rights of states began before the ink dried on the United States Constitution, though it kicked into gear with the close of the Civil War and the assassination of Lincoln. History books have been written on the subject.

TboneAgain

Quote from: quiller on November 26, 2014, 12:20:26 PM
Yahoo News had this story about it and in it, mention of what Ginsburg has previously said about stepping down.... (Pictoral warning if you click the link.)

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-supreme-court-justice-ginsburg-recovering-heart-procedure-153629086.html

Will she hold out until after 2016 elections before stepping down? Can her food-tasters help her survive against Obama, until then?

It's kinda entertaining to hear the libs calling for this liberal icon to step down.  :tounge:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

quiller

CPF software sometimes does hinky things to scans I make. The image below is probably going to be tough to read outside its original format, here:

http://images15.fotki.com/v1624/fileOaDD/b198f/1/1595431/12754402/detnews20031028supremecourt.png

...But here goes....



If any Supreme goes senile, they simply don't count the vote.

Darth Fife

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 26, 2014, 12:29:22 PM
It's kinda entertaining to hear the libs calling for this liberal icon to step down.  :tounge:

Of course!

They don't want her to die during a Republican president's administration and risk her being replaced by a Centrist! Tells you exactly what kind of ideological purists we are dealing with.

What this also tells me is, not only are the Democrats afraid of a Republican winning the Presidency in 2016, they are concerned about not winning back the Senate anytime soon.

And that's a good thing!

Darth

taxed

Quote from: quiller on November 26, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
CPF software sometimes does hinky things to scans I make. The image below is probably going to be tough to read outside its original format, here:

http://images15.fotki.com/v1624/fileOaDD/b198f/1/1595431/12754402/detnews20031028supremecourt.png

...But here goes....



If any Supreme goes senile, they simply don't count the vote.

It doesn't do anything to your images.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

taxed

I was waiting for this shoe to drop.  Just in time while the Dem senate has the majority.

RIP Miss Ginsberg.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

kit saginaw

Quote from: red_dirt on November 26, 2014, 12:27:19 PM
        The Supreme Court has turned into the Achilles Heel of the American system. It was never intended to turn out this way.  The intent of the founders was that the Supreme Court would rule on matters of the high seas, treason, and disputes between the states that could not be resolved by the high courts of the original states. There was never intended a court that would judge "the law of the land."  That developed as the ideals of the Constitutional Republic were gradually eroded by persistent lawyers and legislators picking away at the right of the states to govern themselves.
       

You might wanna re-read Article III...  It also hears cases concerning citizens from one State vs. citizens of another State.  That's considered 'a law of the Land', which is a phrase borrowed from the Magna Carta. 

Pre-Constitutional Republic rulings could've been literally deemed; 'a law of the States', but 'Land' had already been in the lingo for 650-years by then.

And if SCOTUS is an Achilles heel, then they're an Achilles heel.  The Founders had writ an immortal (they hoped) document, so they validated it by 'lifetime' appointments for its mortal custodians.

The final sentence of your first paragraph needs some examples, though I think I know what you're trying to articulate.  The Supremes erode, but give back.  They're not there to be helplessly befuddled by slick lawyering.     

TboneAgain

Quote from: taxed on November 26, 2014, 03:28:00 PM
I was waiting for this shoe to drop.  Just in time while the Dem senate has the majority.

RIP Miss Ginsberg.

Can we wait until she's dead?
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

taxed

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 26, 2014, 03:30:24 PM
Can we wait until she's dead?

She wasn't wanting to step down.  The Dems still have control of he Senate.  She's coincidentally in heart surgery.

Just doing the math...
#PureBlood #TrumpWon


TboneAgain

Quote from: taxed on November 26, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
She wasn't wanting to step down.  The Dems still have control of he Senate.  She's coincidentally in heart surgery.

Just doing the math...

Well... 9-0=9. Is that what you came up with?  :tounge:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

DaisyJane

She's a disgrace.

However, I wish her good health until hopefully a Republican President is elected in 2016.

Otherwise, we'll just get her clone for many more years.

DaisyJane    :huh: