Anyone listening to him now?  He sure seems head over heels in the tank for Rubio.  The only good thing that he said so far was that Rubio's lost votes will likely go to Cruz.

 
It's starting to look like all votes are going to Cruz.

Quote from: Solar on February 08, 2016, 11:09:10 AM

It's starting to look like all votes are going to Cruz.

Maybe I should call in to his show and tell him to keep talking. 

I'm not so sure Rubio is loosing votes, just like I have no idea if he is gaining votes. 

Have you seen all the polls in NH over the last 3 days? The polls are all over the place. According to the polls from the last 3 days, Cruz is either in second place, 3rd place, or 4rth place, and Rubio is either surging into a strong second place, or running out of steam, and Bush is either in 2nd place, 3rd place, or 4rth place.

Just about the only thing the polls have been consistent about is that Trump is in 1st place, every other candidate is bouncing around like a yoyo with each poll that comes out. There is something seriously wrong with the polls.

I haven't listened to Rush for eons.  Tuned in for a bit, all I heard was Rush going on about the media all having the same talking points  and Trump. 

Quote from: Cruzman on February 08, 2016, 09:54:45 AM
Anyone listening to him now?  He sure seems head over heels in the tank for Rubio.  The only good thing that he said so far was that Rubio's lost votes will likely go to Cruz.

Of course. Apparently, so are you.

No, he doesn't seem "in the tank for Rubio." His critics said the sanme thing about Trump.

That's NOT what he does. To believe otherwise tells me you only "listen" through Cruz colored glasses

Quote from: Skeptic on February 08, 2016, 12:02:08 PM
I'm not so sure Rubio is loosing votes, just like I have no idea if he is gaining votes. 

Have you seen all the polls in NH over the last 3 days? The polls are all over the place. According to the polls from the last 3 days, Cruz is either in second place, 3rd place, or 4rth place, and Rubio is either surging into a strong second place, or running out of steam, and Bush is either in 2nd place, 3rd place, or 4rth place.

Just about the only thing the polls have been consistent about is that Trump is in 1st place, every other candidate is bouncing around like a yoyo with each poll that comes out. There is something seriously wrong with the polls.

Rubio is a choker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ZxJVnM5Gs

Keep backing a loser! 

Quote from: taxed on February 08, 2016, 02:26:25 PM
Rubio is a choker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ZxJVnM5Gs

Keep backing a loser! 

You may end up wishing you hadn't said that tomorrow night. The fact is that no one has any idea who is going to come in 2nd 3rd or 4th. Personally, at this point I don't care if it's Rubio or Cruz in second place, as long as its not Jeb Bush. The Florida primaries are still a month away, so I have yet to vote for either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. I still haven't decided which one I will end up voting for, as it is far too early and anything can happen before we get to Florida and I get to cast my vote. Once we are a week away from the Florida primaries I'll be happy to get your input and opinion as I try to make up my mind on who I will actually end up voting for. Right now I'm leaning 52% for Marco Rubio and 48% for Ted Cruz, but either one could have imploded long before we get to Florida and everything else could be a moot point as I'd only be able to choose from one of them. We shall see what happens.

Quote from: Skeptic on February 08, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
You may end up wishing you hadn't said that tomorrow night. The fact is that no one has any idea who is going to come in 2nd 3rd or 4th. Personally, at this point I don't care if it's Rubio or Cruz in second place, as long as its not Jeb Bush. The Florida primaries are still a month away, so I have yet to vote for either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. I still haven't decided which one I will end up voting for, as it is far too early and anything can happen before we get to Florida and I get to cast my vote. Once we are a week away from the Florida primaries I'll be happy to get your input and opinion as I try to make up my mind on who I will actually end up voting for. Right now I'm leaning 52% for Marco Rubio and 48% for Ted Cruz, but either one could have imploded long before we get to Florida and everything else could be a moot point as I'd only be able to choose from one of them. We shall see what happens.

I have no idea what's going on in New Hampshire.  All I know is that I used to think Rubio could have been one of the best if not for being loyal to the Democrats, but after seeing him in that debate, it's clear he's a phony and can't handle the big stage.  It's really sad.

Quote from: carlb on February 08, 2016, 02:18:04 PM
Of course. Apparently, so are you.

No, he doesn't seem "in the tank for Rubio." His critics said the sanme thing about Trump.

That's NOT what he does. To believe otherwise tells me you only "listen" through Cruz colored glasses

I agree. If the man is speaking the truth, who cares who he may or may not benefit in the process.

This is the relevant segment, I presume?

https://youtu.be/b53FscIYiM8

Transcript:

RUSH LIMBAUGH: He's one of two people saying it. Now, folks, you go out and talk to actual Republican primary voters. You go out, outside of Washington, outside New York, go out to where these primaries and caucuses are being held, and you will find that this is exactly what has propelled Republicans to the polls in droves in 2010 and 2014. It's not the belief, it's not the theory, it is the knowledge that Obama's doing this on purpose, and there isn't and hasn't been any push-back. And Republican voters are livid. Obama has said he's doing it on purpose. He has said his purpose is to transform the nation. Everybody knows that Obama is an Alinskyite.

The real question is -- and I was talking about this over the weekend with my good buddy, Andrew McCarthy. The real question is, why are these other guys not saying it? Why does Chris Christie make fun of it? Why does Donald Trump pooh-pooh it? Well, Trump I have to leave out of this, out of this theory. But Trump also, just for the record, said he thinks Obama's an incompetent boob, doesn't know what he's doing. Christie's point is Obama's incompetent, he doesn't know what he's doing because he's inexperienced just like Rubio doesn't know what he's doing 'cause he's experienced. It's Barack Obama 2 in that Rubio would be inexperienced senator, elected president, we don't want to do that again.

Rubio's point, no, no, no, no, no. Obama's not incompetent. He's not inexperienced. He's doing exactly what he wants to do. And none of these Republican moderates will go there. You want to know why? You want to know why? You want to know why they cannot agree that Obama's doing this on purpose? Very simple. They cannot agree that Obama's doing it on purpose. They do not dare say that Obama's doing it on purpose because they have all worked with Barack Obama, in one way or another, every one of these governors, many of them, and even a lot of Republicans in the House and Senate have worked with Obama to advance certain elements of the agenda.

We've worked with Obama on the spending bills. We have worked with Obama, or we want to, on amnesty and immigration. There are some on the Republican side who want to work with Obama when it comes to issues on the so-called War on Women. But when you have worked with Obama, when you have asked Obama to come to your state, and when you have embraced Obama and done everything you can to get assistance from Obama, well, you can't turn around and then say Obama is purposefully trying to transform the country 'cause that makes you look like an idiot.

So you have to fall back on the idea that it's unintentional, just incompetent, just a boob, and we can't elect anybody else as inexperienced as Obama was 'cause they're gonna have the same mess. There's not a single Republican running that wants to transform this country the way Obama is doing it, not one. Not a single one. There's not a single Republican in this field who would, by virtue of inexperience, make the mistakes Obama is making, because Obama is not making mistakes. Obama has an agenda.

I think the real important question here to ask and answer is why won't anybody but Rubio and Cruz say it? Because that's essentially, if you had to encapsulate what the Republican primary is, it's about that. Like they keep harping on, Christie -- or it might have been Trump, I don't know who it was -- jumped on Rubio, maybe it was a moderator in the post-debate analysis. Why does he keep campaigning against Obama? Obama's not on the ballot. Obama's seven years old. Obama's in his last year. Why does he keep running against Obama?

Because Hillary and Bernie Sanders want to continue what Obama has started, and it is the transformation of America. The Republican base is fully aware of it. The Republican primary voters have been begging the Republican Party to stop this since 2010, since 2009 when Obama took office.

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I bolded the part where I think he is wrong. He has the basic fact right, but he ascribes incorrect motives to the likes of Christie and Trump. The real reason Christie and Trump are so dismissive of Obama's evil intentions is because to explain it away as incompetence happens to fit the particular political narrative they are trying to spin. That is, that Rubio is just like Obama. Because Rubio isn't, in fact, just like Obama, they have to mischaracterize Obama to make the comparison work. It's all politics. Rubio = Obama because they're both first term senators works better than Rubio = Obama because they're both treacherous seditionists, even though the latter would be the relevant comparison.

Like you say, Cruz-colored glasses, in relation to many of our posters here. They know it's political gamesmanship, playing fast and loose with important truths, but as long as it helps our candidate, they're willing to rationalize it or emphasize other aspects of it.

Why does Christie think he's more qualified than a First term Senator?

Christie was a US prosecutor in NJ for seven years and he's been the Governor for six.

Rubio was city commissioner for Miami, was in the Florida House as majority whip and then majority leader for 8 years, speaker for 2 and has been a Senator for five.

Christie worked for a law firm before getting into state government and Rubio started his own law firm after he was termed out of the FL legislature.  He also teaches two days a week.

Has Christie really done that much for NJ?  From most of what I hear his state has a terrible financial and employment situation.  He's also been kind of liberal, which he blames on having a Democrat legislature. 

Today on the Five, Greg Gutfeld had a montage of other candidates, including Christie, repeating themselves.  I'm sure when you do hundreds of rallies, meet-ups and townhalls your going to repeat your policies and talking points. 

Quote from: Dori on February 08, 2016, 05:56:22 PM
Why does Christie think he's more qualified than a First term Senator?

Christie was a US prosecutor in NJ for seven years and he's been the Governor for six.

Rubio was city commissioner for Miami, was in the Florida House as majority whip and then majority leader for 8 years, speaker for 2 and has been a Senator for five.

Christie worked for a law firm before getting into state government and Rubio started his own law firm after he was termed out of the FL legislature.  He also teaches two days a week.

Has Christie really done that much for NJ?  From most of what I hear his state has a terrible financial and employment situation.  He's also been kind of liberal, which he blames on having a Democrat legislature. 

Today on the Five, Greg Gutfeld had a montage of other candidates, including Christie, repeating themselves.  I'm sure when you do hundreds of rallies, meet-ups and townhalls your going to repeat your policies and talking points.

Yup.