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Title: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government

http://gilmermirror.com/view/full_story/27358123/article-Rule-by-Brute-Force--The-True-Nature-of-Government

Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Hoofer on August 17, 2017, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government

http://gilmermirror.com/view/full_story/27358123/article-Rule-by-Brute-Force--The-True-Nature-of-Government

I'll save everyone some time, either skip to the very end, which is:
QuoteYou want to save America? Then stop thinking like Republicans and Democrats and start acting like Americans.

The only thing that will save us now is a concerted, collective commitment to the Constitution's principles of limited government, a system of checks and balances, and a recognition that they—the president, Congress, the courts, the military, the police, the technocrats and plutocrats and bureaucrats—work for us.

I find it difficult to swallow John Whitehead actually WROTE this article - until I saw the date, 1-31-2017, Trump was in office 10 days.
Nobody really knew what the new POTUS would do - but, we had a pretty good idea, there were dozens of books, like this one (Whitehead is promoting), sitting on the shelves of publishers, hoping to time the release at the right time.

Donald Trump is rolling back the power of Washington DC.   This book, and "thread" is irrelevant, since both assume the opposite is taking place.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: voter on August 17, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Has Trump arrested the bankers, paid off the debt, reduced the regulations, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2017, 05:11:34 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Has Trump arrested the bankers, paid off the debt, reduced the regulations, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?
I don't believe he promised any of those, though he did backtrack on a shit load of promises, I don't think those were in the list.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: topside on August 17, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Has Trump arrested the bankers, paid off the debt, reduced the regulations, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Solar: Yes - thanks for the simplification.

Voter: You identified core areas that Conservatives like me would like to see. But the actions of Congress and this president show that we're not going to move them all as easily as you seem to suggest. You're being extreme on the changes you hoped to see - not realistic. Solar identifies the view I agree with; there was a list of things that Trump promised to deliver that align with conservative values. But he's not delivered these for various reasons - partially him, partially due to the RINOs in Congress. Certainly the Dims have been uniformly against Trump's list of promises and would also be against every area that you posted on.

You're waving the flag but there's no realistic chance of all these falling now. It's like when the Pubs voted to Repeal Obamacare under Obama's reign when it had no chance. Didn't really mean anything without real substance or a plan to make it move. Then when it really counted, we saw them lock up. Do you have some idea of how you would make any of these areas move with the current actors?
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2017, 06:16:14 PM
Quote from: topside on August 17, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
Solar: Yes - thanks for the simplification.

Voter: You identified core areas that Conservatives like me would like to see. But the actions of Congress and this president show that we're not going to move them all as easily as you seem to suggest. You're being extreme on the changes you hoped to see - not realistic. Solar identifies the view I agree with; there was a list of things that Trump promised to deliver that align with conservative values. But he's not delivered these for various reasons - partially him, partially due to the RINOs in Congress. Certainly the Dims have been uniformly against Trump's list of promises and would also be against every area that you posted on.

You're waving the flag but there's no realistic chance of all these falling now. It's like when the Pubs voted to Repeal Obamacare under Obama's reign when it had no chance. Didn't really mean anything without real substance or a plan to make it move. Then when it really counted, we saw them lock up. Do you have some idea of how you would make any of these areas move with the current actors?
That, and Trump's only been in office 6 months. What did he expect, water into wine, walking on water, healing the sick?
It's pretty obvious Trump's largest obstacle is the gop'E.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
The USA is no longer a democracy and we no longer have rights. Our votes don't count.

Many Americans feel powerless to do anything about the expanding police state, but we can still fight back.

What good would money do if we have no freedom?

Here are some things you can do to support liberty and slow the rise of tyranny:

Think. Resist. Opt-out. Do not comply. Do not consent. Do not participate.

They can't kill us all.

What if everyone marked "EXEMPT" on their W-2 forms?

What if everyone threw away their smartphones and modern electronics and starting using typewriters, film cameras, and driving classic cars that the NSA couldn't wiretap or hack?

What if everyone accidentally transposed numbers
for their Social Security numbers, addresses, phone numbers, and birth dates on government forms?

What if everyone used anonymous debit cards and cash for all their purchases?

What if everyone disguised themselves by using wigs, beards, hats, sunglasses, head scarves,
and surgical masks?

What if everyone used anonymous mailboxes?

What if everyone withdrew their money from banks and hid assets in untraceable private anonymous vaults, safe deposit boxes, and holes in the ground?

What if everyone placed tree branches in car trunks that covered their license plates or used a license plate spray?

What if everyone pretended to be deaf or foreigners who couldn't speak English when stopped by the police?

What if everyone carried 200 cans and job ads in their cars and told the police that they needed to use the restroom and they were heading to the recycling center to get money to feed their sick child?

What if everyone refused to register their cars when they bought them and just used old license plates or registered their cars with misspelled names?

What if everyone printed out fake documents that said they had car insurance or bought car insurance and then canceled it?

What if everyone had fake ID's or said that they lost their ID's at the bus station or couldn't find their licenses in their messy car?

What if everyone told the police that they had melting ice cream in the car and needed to get home?

What if everyone refused to give their names to government officials?

What if businesses just used copies of business licenses of other businesses?

What if everyone didn't buy health insurance?

What if Libertarians got jobs with the government and ignored law-breaking, stood up for citizens, and sabotaged and slowed the government?

What if everyone used radar detectors to avoid checkpoints?

What if everyone kept the police busy by taking road trips and throwing marijuana seeds out of car windows when they crossed over riverbanks?

Wake up. Stand up. Think, read, research, and talk with friends, family, and neighbors about the changes happening in the USA. Learn about the American, French, and Russian revolutions. Watch pro-freedom movies like "Lives of Others", "Sophie Scholl", "Argo", "Zero Dark Thirty", "Hunger Games", "V for Vendetta", "Gandhi", "12 Years a Slave", and
"Citizenfour".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0426578/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1024648/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1790885/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392170/?ref_=nv_sr_2

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083987/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2024544/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4044364/

Get involved with pro-democracy groups.

Sign petitions against Unconstitutional laws.

https://ouramericainitiative.com/nsa-petition.html

Donate to civil rights groups like the EFF and ACLU.

Arrange and attend protests.

Write to your elected officials.

Write letters to editors with your viewpoints and contact the media to ask for more stories covering government tyranny.

Vote.

Publish a blog or website with news and your views about freedom.

http://mashable.com/2007/08/06/free-blog-hosts/

Run for any political office.

If called to be on a jury, refuse to convict someone of breaking an unjust law.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/06/jury-nullification

Raise awareness by passing out flyers, sponsoring billboards, and buying ads calling for more freedom. Leave
notes inside library books that say, "The NSA is wiretapping your phone." Go to sports
games and display banners that say, "The NSA is reading your emails." Print out articles about
NSA wiretapping or CIA torture and leave them in places like waiting rooms or bus stations.

Raise awareness of tyranny by wearing a Nazi uniform in public.

Exchange your laptop and mobile phones with strangers to confuse the NSA.

Cover the cameras on your mobile phone and computer.

Confuse license plate readers by parking far away from your destination.

Go to open mic comedy performances and do an act
on tyranny in the US to get people thinking.

Don't be terrorist, but act like one. Report everybody as a terrorist. Confuse and slow the government.

If the government refuses to listen to Americans, drop-out, work off the books, stop paying taxes, and apply for as much welfare as you can. Drain the system. If we are being ignored, we may need for society to collapse before we can rebuild it. Americans need to kill the beast that is killing us.

Resist. Talk to government employees. Try to persuade them that by working for a corrupt government they become an enemy of the people. If a government employee tries to enforce an Unconstitutional law, tell them that Nazis said they were just following orders, too. Don't allow police, the TSA, or any other agency to illegally search you or take your DNA. Do not obey. Opt-out. Do not consent. Carry a copy of the US Constitution with you at all times.

Take out as many loans as you can. Don't pay them back. The government, corporations, and illegal immigrants don't have ethics, why should we?

Buy guns, gold, and stock up on emergency supplies. Be prepared. Anything can happen. Watch what happens to the stock market when the US stops printing money and goes bankrupt.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/26/AR2009012600531.html

Increase your privacy. Buy prepaid anonymous phones. Take steps against Internet spying.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/10/ten-steps-against-surveillance

Look at countries where you can move to. Consider obtaining a new passport and renouncing your US citizenship.

http://news.yahoo.com/struggling-caribbean-islands-selling-citizenship-170008926.html

Consider getting involved in a secession movement.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/11/13/white-house-flooded-with-secession-petitions-after-obama-re-election

http://www.summitdaily.com/news/8421291-113/state-colorado-counties-county

If things don't improve and the government doesn't return the rights of Americans, the US Constitution allows Americans to form a new government.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/7735-who-needs-a-new-constitutional-convention

http://conventionofstates.com/

While I fervently hope this doesn't happen, if all the above actions fail to return freedom to Americans, the USA may turn into a violent revolution one day.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/gathering-storm/2013/dec/24/new-american-awakening-needs-leaders/

http://www.lafn.org/education/newspapr.html

http://jointactioncommittee.org/index.php/jac-candidates/electoral-map

http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/random-acts-of-revolution-01192014

http://northwestlibertynews.com/News/tabid/771/ID/481/Tools-Against-Tyranny.aspx

http://www.shareable.net/blog/how-to-start-a-revolution

http://scalethedocumentary.com/index.php/activism/activist-resources/

http://www.returnofkings.com/27956/the-8-stages-all-movements-go-through

http://restorethe4th.com

http://overpassesforamerica.com

http://oathkeepers.org

http://aclj.org

https://www.aclu.org

https://www.lp.org

http://losethename.com/birth-certificate-fraud/

http://www.masterjules.net/hidebiz.htm

http://voluntaryist.com/articles/027b.html#.Vdys9iGqqko

http://www.urmesurveillance.com/urme-prosthetic/

http://www.actupny.org/documents/CDdocuments/HistoryNV.html

http://nwtrcc.org/resist/how-to-resist/

http://www.copsrcorrupt.com/revo-fuckin-lution.html

http://www.rogerpbrown.com/spy/fs014.html

https://popularresistance.org/category/resist/

Feel free to suggest other ideas that promote freedom.

Pass the word.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Hoofer on August 17, 2017, 06:22:32 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Has Trump arrested the bankers, paid off the debt, reduced the regulations, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

a. arrested the bankers?   Get serious, already.
b. paid off the debt?   Probably not going to happen in your or my lifetime, combined - unrealistic.
c. reduced the regulations  That is actually taking place, did you notice new coal mines opening in WV?
d. decreased taxes?   Paul Ryan, check out his "tweets", is working on a simplified tax plan to present to congress.
e. kicked out the illegal aliens?   Doesn't have to do much, they're already leaving on their own & Jeff Sessions is working on the Sanctuary City nonsense.
f. ended the Fed?  In your dreams, congress can't even agree to audit the Fed.
g. end the wars?  Well, the little fat guy just backed down - are you going to give Trump credit for that?  Till Jesus Christ returns, there will be wars and rumors of wars, "when they say Peace and Safety, sudden destruction shall come upon them"...  what are you expecting?  How soon?  I wanna be long-gone, before the wars end.
h. ended welfare?  As long as you have a dollar, and there are Democrats, expect them to try and lift it from you.
i. ended Obamacare?  Trump can't sign a bill that's not on his desk.  funny, I don't hear any Democrats trying to end it.
j. restored the Bill of Rights?   If a POTUS could restore or remove the Bill of Rights - it must not be "God Given", nor "self-evident".

Your questions imply Donald Trump is a King, just as John Whitehead suggested.  Do you know what Executive Fiat is?  (no, it wasn't a car Obama drove).  The article you cited is 7 months old, not only outdated, but I seriously doubt Whitehead would even bother writing such a piece in August - if he actually wrote that one at all, I have my doubts.   It is full of assumptions, seemingly based on the previous 8 years of Obama's kingship type presidency.

Tell me, please, has Donald Trump done anything that makes you excited or scared for the future?  Just throw away any facts, and tell me from the heart, your feelings.   That's what really matters, right, how you *feel* about Trump.

This is like deja-vu.... Jimmy Carter had scared everyone as he was leaving the White House, asked the Russians for help in defeating Reagan...  The media was going crazy with every statement Reagan made about Russia, "We're gonna get in another WAR!!!!"  They didn't realize it at the time, but Reagan was handing *freedom* back to the public, just as Trump is.... while the MSM is screaming it's the end of the world as we know it.  Turn off the TV & radio, open your eyes.  Don't allow a handful of Communist nutcases keep you from prospering and enjoying the liberty God has given us.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:29:46 PM
The new boss is the same as the old boss.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on August 17, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:17:36 PM
The USA is no longer a democracy and we no longer have rights. Our votes don't count.

Let me stop you right there! WE have never been a Democracy, Freakin Evert!
I think it's time you read the Federalist Papers and learned a few things about our Constitution.
Here's an assignment, find the word Democracy in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: voter on August 17, 2017, 07:58:26 PM
Democracy or Republic, the USA was not meant to be a police state.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Ms.Independence on August 17, 2017, 08:03:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2017, 06:16:14 PM
That, and Trump's only been in office 6 months. What did he expect, water into wine, walking on water, healing the sick?
It's pretty obvious Trump's largest obstacle is the gop'E.

Yes, it's blatantly obvious; those that don't see it have their heads buried in the sand.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: supsalemgr on August 18, 2017, 04:43:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 17, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
Let me stop you right there! WE have never been a Democracy, Freakin Evert!
I think it's time you read the Federalist Papers and learned a few things about our Constitution.
Here's an assignment, find the word Democracy in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

I bet he doesn't even know what a representative republic.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Possum on August 18, 2017, 06:04:13 AM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:29:46 PM
The new boss is the same as the old boss.
Been reading your quotes and can only add
" A mind is a terrible thing to waste"
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on August 18, 2017, 06:50:32 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 18, 2017, 04:43:43 AM
I bet he doesn't even know what a representative republic.
Something tells me he never paid attention in school, last year, or is it next year when it's included in the curriculum :biggrin:?
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: ford on September 16, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on September 16, 2017, 07:52:12 AM
Quote from: ford on September 16, 2017, 07:45:46 AM
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.
Yeah, human nature, meet reality. Welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: ford on September 16, 2017, 07:54:41 AM
Orwell is starting to look like an optimist.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Walter Josh on September 17, 2017, 08:55:55 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government

http://gilmermirror.com/view/full_story/27358123/article-Rule-by-Brute-Force--The-True-Nature-of-Government

Governance, whether in the form of Monarchy, Oligarchy or Republic, involves the structuring of culture/society voluntarily agreed/accepted by the people governed.
That has been the the case since the Sumerians of the Fertile Crescent in 3500 BC, to the present.
Does that imply that governance, through history, has been a manifestation of heaven on earth? Hardly!
Man is not a perfectible creature and perfection is not possible in this world, as conservatives understand.
Nevertheless your assertion; "the true nature of government is rule by brute force", is beyond preposterous.
The Greeks and Romans, as well as all the rest of us; get the governance we deserve and tolerate!!!.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: TboneAgain on September 17, 2017, 09:47:13 PM
Quote from: Walter Josh on September 17, 2017, 08:55:55 PM
Governance, whether in the form of Monarchy, Oligarchy or Republic, involves the structuring of culture/society voluntarily agreed/accepted by the people governed.
That has been the the case since the Sumerians of the Fertile Crescent in 3500 BC, to the present.
Does that imply that governance, through history, has been a manifestation of heaven on earth? Hardly!
Man is not a perfectible creature and perfection is not possible in this world, as conservatives understand.
Nevertheless your assertion; "the true nature of government is rule by brute force", is beyond preposterous.
The Greeks and Romans, as well as all the rest of us; get the governance we deserve and tolerate!!!.

Governance and government are not the same thing, though they are related... but you should already know that. No one in this thread has mentioned governance until you just did. Are you seeking to confuse or conflate the two terms? Doing that wouldn't be a good idea.

If you want to discuss the nature and history of governance, as opposed to the more concise and limited subject of government, perhaps you should consider originating your own thread, instead of trying to hijack and sidetrack this one.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: TboneAgain on September 17, 2017, 09:47:13 PM
Governance and government are not the same thing, though they are related... but you should already know that. No one in this thread has mentioned governance until you just did. Are you seeking to confuse or conflate the two terms? Doing that wouldn't be a good idea.

If you want to discuss the nature and history of governance, as opposed to the more concise and limited subject of government, perhaps you should consider originating your own thread, instead of trying to hijack and sidetrack this one.

I politely but firmly requested you to ignore my posts, move along w/o notice and I would joyously reciprocate.
I've kept my word, but like Dr. Strangelove, you're obviously incapable; addicted to interfering w/others ideas and thoughts while adding zero.
LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!
I've
But like Dr Strangelove you;'re compulsion to  incapable of doing that
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: taxed on September 18, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
I politely but firmly requested you to ignore my posts, move along w/o notice and I would joyously reciprocate.
I've kept my word, but like Dr. Strangelove, you're obviously incapable; addicted to interfering w/others ideas and thoughts while adding zero.
LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!
I've
But like Dr Strangelove you;'re compulsion to  incapable of doing that

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.  Your posts are open to scrutiny.  You don't get to post something stupid and then go run under your desk and hide.  This isn't academia.  If you think what you post may be challenged and cause your feelings to be hurt, then save yourself the PTSD and just don't post it.

(I didn't read your posts -- I just caught this part and saw T shred you the other day)
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 11:14:09 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
I politely but firmly requested you to ignore my posts, move along w/o notice and I would joyously reciprocate.
I've kept my word, but like Dr. Strangelove, you're obviously incapable; addicted to interfering w/others ideas and thoughts while adding zero.
LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!
I've
But like Dr Strangelove you;'re compulsion to  incapable of doing that


If you can not handle his feed back, (opinions) then do not read them.   You are on a real Conservative Political Forum, not a safe zone posting PC forum.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: taxed on September 18, 2017, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 11:14:09 AM

If you can not handle his feed back, (opinions) then do not read them.   You are on a real Conservative Political Forum, not a safe zone forum.

I was going to offer him our designated safe space, but I forgot we turned it into a storage room...
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: tac on September 18, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: taxed on September 18, 2017, 11:15:29 AM
I was going to offer him our designated safe space, but I forgot we turned it into a storage room...
Sorry, I thought that was the outhouse!
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 11:14:09 AM

If you can not handle his feed back, (opinions) then do not read them.   You are on a real Conservative Political Forum, not a safe zone posting PC forum.

Thanks for the admonition which I'll heed.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: supsalemgr on September 18, 2017, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
I politely but firmly requested you to ignore my posts, move along w/o notice and I would joyously reciprocate.
I've kept my word, but like Dr. Strangelove, you're obviously incapable; addicted to interfering w/others ideas and thoughts while adding zero.
LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!
I've
But like Dr Strangelove you;'re compulsion to  incapable of doing that

You do not set the rules for this forum. If you can't take any disagreement feel free to leave.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: Walter Josh on September 18, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
Thanks for the admonition which I'll heed.

You are not the first one and I am sure you will not be the last one.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: TboneAgain on September 18, 2017, 01:10:26 PM
Governance is to government as general science is to quantum mechanics or as the field of medicine is to eye surgery.  In all these cases, the latter is a small subset of the former. It's macro vs. micro. That is the bone I was gnawing on.

We don't pick on a thread 17 posts in and begin expounding on the history of the universe when the original subject was the funny-looking apple you got off your tree yesterday or why your puppy has a wart on its tail.

Walter Josh, if you don't know the difference between governance and government, I'd suggest you take a short vacation and do a little reading. If you think we don't know the difference, you're in for a rough ride.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: taxed on September 18, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: tac on September 18, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
Sorry, I thought that was the outhouse!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
Quote from: tac on September 18, 2017, 11:49:37 AM
Sorry, I thought that was the outhouse!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  That's ok, I been storing troll, Lib's and snowflakes there for the last two years. 
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: tac on September 18, 2017, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: walkstall on September 18, 2017, 03:04:07 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  That's ok, I been storing troll, Lib's and snowflakes there for the last two years. 
So I was not mistaken.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: tac on September 18, 2017, 08:25:38 PM
Quote from: voter on August 17, 2017, 02:58:43 PM
Has Trump arrested the bankers, paid off the debt, reduced the regulations, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Isn't all of that under the authority of our spineless and ball less CONgress? It sounds like you want a dictator and not a President.
Title: Re: Rule by Brute Force: The True Nature of Government
Post by: Solar on September 19, 2017, 05:09:11 AM
Quote from: tac on September 18, 2017, 08:25:38 PM
Isn't all of that under the authority of our spineless and ball less CONgress? It sounds like you want a dictator and not a President.
I think he was typing as the bong went around, it 'Progressively' degraded further into incoherence.
Aside from a leftist commie ranting, it was the statement of an ignorant lIB-ertarian attempting to interact with adults, like a toddler attempting to appear smart with their eyes locked deep in the NY Slimes, all the while holding it upside down.