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Title: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2017, 11:10:27 AM
Dims think this is a winning ticket? :lol:

Democrat Doug Jones: The Second Amendment Has 'Limitations'

Doesn't believe in "God Given Rights".

He believes that every right enumerated in the Bill of Rights is limited, and the Second Amendment is no exception.

According to the Alabama Political Reporter, Jones described himself as "a Second Amendment guy," but stressed that some gun control is necessary. He said, "We've got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another." This position is contrary to the clear language of the amendment, which states that the right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed."

During a May 2013 appearance on Rachel Maddow Lean Forward, Murphy said, "The Second Amendment is not an absolute right, not a God-given right. It has always had conditions upon it like the First Amendment has."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/20/doug-jones-second-amendment-limitations/
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 20, 2017, 11:30:47 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2017, 11:10:27 AM
Dims think this is a winning ticket? :lol:

Democrat Doug Jones: The Second Amendment Has 'Limitations'

Doesn't believe in "God Given Rights".

He believes that every right enumerated in the Bill of Rights is limited, and the Second Amendment is no exception.

According to the Alabama Political Reporter, Jones described himself as "a Second Amendment guy," but stressed that some gun control is necessary. He said, "We've got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another." This position is contrary to the clear language of the amendment, which states that the right to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed."

During a May 2013 appearance on Rachel Maddow Lean Forward, Murphy said, "The Second Amendment is not an absolute right, not a God-given right. It has always had conditions upon it like the First Amendment has."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/20/doug-jones-second-amendment-limitations/

This is why I hope Moore wins and absolutely destroys the dem party in AL. He is a dem, pure and simple. All this BS about being a "moderate" dem is pure BS. Nothing is going to happen to Franken so we will be even. Each party will have a known pervert. Note the word known. That is on purpose.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 20, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
I just saw an interview by Dana Perino and Chris Steirwalt on FNC concerning Moore. Keep in mind that Perino is a registered, certified RINO. She commented that even if Moore is elected he will be a maverick to Republican "values". That tells us all we need to know to hope Moore wins and watch the RINO's in the senate have another independent mind to deal with.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
I just saw an interview by Dana Perino and Chris Steirwalt on FNC concerning Moore. Keep in mind that Perino is a registered, certified RINO. She commented that even if Moore is elected he will be a maverick to Republican "values". That tells us all we need to know to hope Moore wins and watch the RINO's in the senate have another independent mind to deal with.
I'd just once love to hear a RINO disseminate between Conservative values, and those of the Establishment cronies.
They claim they have values, yet all they do is lie and act just like the Dim party rats.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 20, 2017, 12:45:56 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2017, 12:32:35 PM
I'd just once love to hear a RINO disseminate between Conservative values, and those of the Establishment cronies.
They claim they have values, yet all they do is lie and act just like the Dim party rats.

It is easy to recognize them. The use of the terms "republican" and "conservative" are pretty much dead giveaways. However, one must watch for the faux conservatives like Flake and others. Fortunately, most of us here have figured out the makeup of the senate.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2017, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 20, 2017, 12:45:56 PM
It is easy to recognize them. The use of the terms "republican" and "conservative" are pretty much dead giveaways. However, one must watch for the faux conservatives like Flake and others. Fortunately, most of us here have figured out the makeup of the senate.
So let's examine this situation, shall we?
We have a Conservative running, we have the Dim wit party running a real hardcore leftist, all taking place in a Solid Red state, correct?
But here's the magical part resonating from the RINO's Unicorns ass, they think they can find a more appealing leftist than the one the Dim idiots floated to challenge Moore.

Now, how damned loony is that? :lol:

This is a referendum on McCon, who is going to be wearing egg all over his face, thinking he somehow actually has control over the electorate.
God knows, 2018 is going to be another bloodbath for leftists in both party's.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 20, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
Because people in Alabama don't have guns. :rolleyes:

This clown obviously knows nothing abut the state he wants to represent.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
Because people in Alabama don't have guns. :rolleyes:

This clown obviously knows nothing abut the state he wants to represent.
Kinda proves just how stupid and bigoted Dims are. They actually think Alabamans are dumb enough to vote against their own best interests.
I see Alabama as the "Leave Me The Fuck Alone" State.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 20, 2017, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
Kinda proves just how stupid and bigoted Dims are. They actually think Alabamans are dumb enough to vote against their own best interests.
I see Alabama as the "Leave Me The Fuck Alone" State.

And that is what they have done. They have really rejected outsiders trying to influence them. It might be a trend as it also happened in Georgia.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 20, 2017, 07:11:54 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2017, 06:43:50 PM
And that is what they have done. They have really rejected outsiders trying to influence them. It might be a trend as it also happened in Georgia.
I do believe Moore will win, and the percentages are going to shock the leftists in both party's. :cool:
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: walkstall on November 20, 2017, 07:37:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 20, 2017, 07:11:54 PM
I do believe Moore will win, and the percentages are going to shock the leftists in both party's. :cool:

I think people have seen these bombshells come out at the very last just before voting.  Then they do nothing afterword's.  Now it's backfiring on them all over the place.  Hollywood, Congress, the press, Sports and all before it can go into court.  They has to be a lot of money changing hands.   
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 21, 2017, 04:26:18 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 20, 2017, 07:37:20 PM
I think people have seen these bombshells come out at the very last just before voting.  Then they do nothing afterword's.  Now it's backfiring on them all over the place.  Hollywood, Congress, the press, Sports and all before it can go into court.  They has to be a lot of money changing hands.   
That's the thing, enough of us have been around long enough to know and expect something like this from leftists, and now that the Establishment is no longer hiding their leftist status, it could easily have been predicted they'd pull something underhanded to kill off another Conservative threat.
I've faith in Alabamans, more so than most other States, so much so, I expect to see some form of retribution against the Con, possible groundswell movement to remove the leftist from the party.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 21, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Looks like Trump backs Moore over McCON-el's Dim choice.

Although President Donald Trump did not endorse Alabama Republican senaorial candidate Roy Moore or say whether he believes the sexual assault allegations against Moore from 38 years ago are true, the president did say that Moore "totally denies" the claims and observers should "look at" his word too.

President Trump further said that the U.S. Senate does not "need a liberal person in there," such as Democrat Doug Jones.


Speaking with reporters outside the White House on Tuesday, Trump said, "I can tell you one thing for sure: We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, [Doug] Jones. I've looked at his record. It's terrible on crime. It's terrible on the border. It's terrible on the military."

"I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment," said the president

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/trump-allegations-against-roy-moore-he-totally-denies-it-you-have
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Possum on November 21, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Looks like Trump backs Moore over McCON-el's Dim choice.

Although President Donald Trump did not endorse Alabama Republican senaorial candidate Roy Moore or say whether he believes the sexual assault allegations against Moore from 38 years ago are true, the president did say that Moore "totally denies" the claims and observers should "look at" his word too.

President Trump further said that the U.S. Senate does not "need a liberal person in there," such as Democrat Doug Jones.


Speaking with reporters outside the White House on Tuesday, Trump said, "I can tell you one thing for sure: We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, [Doug] Jones. I've looked at his record. It's terrible on crime. It's terrible on the border. It's terrible on the military."

"I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment," said the president

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/trump-allegations-against-roy-moore-he-totally-denies-it-you-have
Well, I have to say I agree with Trump. It's easy to agree with the part that we don't need another liberal in congress. And it's easy to agree on the fact that " Moore did deny the allegations". I will also say I wish Moore had shown better judgement, as I'm sure we all do. Saying that, if I lived in the great state of Alabama, I would vote for Moore.  Whereas 14 is not an adult, it is not exactly a child either, and our courts have ruled in the past that a 14 year old can stand trail as an adult. I see this as two people making a bad choice, most of the blame on Moore, but she is not exactly blameless in this also. And no I am not blaming the victim here, but there were bad choices made by both.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 21, 2017, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: s3779m on November 21, 2017, 04:15:34 PM
Well, I have to say I agree with Trump. It's easy to agree with the part that we don't need another liberal in congress. And it's easy to agree on the fact that " Moore did deny the allegations". I will also say I wish Moore had shown better judgement, as I'm sure we all do. Saying that, if I lived in the great state of Alabama, I would vote for Moore.  Whereas 14 is not an adult, it is not exactly a child either, and our courts have ruled in the past that a 14 year old can stand trail as an adult. I see this as two people making a bad choice, most of the blame on Moore, but she is not exactly blameless in this also. And no I am not blaming the victim here, but there were bad choices made by both.
Witnesses are coming out and calling it all lies, one, in particular, said she worked at the same restaurant, never met the girl, and also stated they had a policy of hiring 16 year olds and above, the girl claimed she was 14. She also said Moore never came in or she would have noticed him and never have forgotten it.
Moore dated young girls, but never had sex with them, he also married one of them and is still happily married, so it's safe to say he wasn't looking for a piece.

This whole issue is coming apart and Allred has now sunken to the level of McCON-nel. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Hoofer on November 21, 2017, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2017, 05:02:59 PM
Witnesses are coming out and calling it all lies, one, in particular, said she worked at the same restaurant, never met the girl, and also stated they had a policy of hiring 16 year olds and above, the girl claimed she was 14. She also said Moore never came in or she would have noticed him and never have forgotten it.
Moore dated young girls, but never had sex with them, he also married one of them and is still happily married, so it's safe to say he wasn't looking for a piece.

This whole issue is coming apart and Allred has now sunken to the level of McCON-nel. :biggrin:

What a time for the Liberals...   "Moore should never be seated!!  He's a pevert!!  A disgrace to the Senate!"
All around them... ooopsie!  kinda spoke to fast, the whole "hollier-than-thou" collapsing into dust.
Franken, Rangle, and a whole slush-hush fund - women coming forth to blame the real culprits, like a flood.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 22, 2017, 04:15:06 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 21, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Looks like Trump backs Moore over McCON-el's Dim choice.

Although President Donald Trump did not endorse Alabama Republican senaorial candidate Roy Moore or say whether he believes the sexual assault allegations against Moore from 38 years ago are true, the president did say that Moore "totally denies" the claims and observers should "look at" his word too.

President Trump further said that the U.S. Senate does not "need a liberal person in there," such as Democrat Doug Jones.


Speaking with reporters outside the White House on Tuesday, Trump said, "I can tell you one thing for sure: We don't need a liberal person in there, a Democrat, [Doug] Jones. I've looked at his record. It's terrible on crime. It's terrible on the border. It's terrible on the military."

"I can tell you for a fact we do not need somebody that's going to be bad on crime, bad on borders, bad for the military, bad for the Second Amendment," said the president

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/trump-allegations-against-roy-moore-he-totally-denies-it-you-have

I think I am correct on this. If not, someone please correct me. If Moore is elected and then expelled by McConnell and the leftist senate it plays into AL republican's hands. The seat would then again be vacant and the governor could appoint a replacement. This would give the state of AL a new start on replacing Sessions.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 22, 2017, 05:12:59 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 22, 2017, 04:15:06 AM
I think I am correct on this. If not, someone please correct me. If Moore is elected and then expelled by McConnell and the leftist senate it plays into AL republican's hands. The seat would then again be vacant and the governor could appoint a replacement. This would give the state of AL a new start on replacing Sessions.
I believe it was an empty threat.

McCON-nel's an asshole leftist, but he isn't stupid. Blocking the nomination of a legally selected Representative by the people of Alabama would bring a litany of lawsuits ending up in SCOTUS and exposing the Con for the liberal he is to the entire world.

Playing dictator is not a legacy this squishy wants.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Hoofer on November 22, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 22, 2017, 05:12:59 AM
I believe it was an empty threat.

McCON-nel's an asshole leftist, but he isn't stupid. Blocking the nomination of a legally selected Representative by the people of Alabama would bring a litany of lawsuits ending up in SCOTUS and exposing the Con for the liberal he is to the entire world.

Playing dictator is not a legacy this squishy wants.

How can you expel a duly elected Senator on hearsay?  And not expel 2 Senators with solid evidence of their crime, pictures and hush money?
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Possum on November 23, 2017, 02:39:45 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 22, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
How can you expel a duly elected Senator on hearsay?  And not expel 2 Senators with solid evidence of their crime, pictures and hush money?
I guess when your approval #'s are in the toilet, you can do what you want.
https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html#!
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: supsalemgr on November 23, 2017, 04:21:23 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 22, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
How can you expel a duly elected Senator on hearsay?  And not expel 2 Senators with solid evidence of their crime, pictures and hush money?

Only in Washington, DC which is on a different planet.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 23, 2017, 04:24:49 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 22, 2017, 06:32:18 PM
How can you expel a duly elected Senator on hearsay?  And not expel 2 Senators with solid evidence of their crime, pictures and hush money?
Exactly!
For the Con to think he holds enough clout to Impeach a duly elected Representative of the State and people of Alabama, is either delusional or totally corrupt, which opens another can of worms.
Let's pretend for a second the Con followed through on his threat? To do so, would require bribes and threats, as evidenced by the fact that he can't even generate a working Bill, let alone push Commiecare through.

So my point is, his manipulation of a majority vote to remove a Senator via Article I of the Constitution, this would more than split the party, it could even lead to a constitutional crisis and if gone unchecked, destroy the Republic and the people's faith in a working govt.

Which would leave but one option, POTUS would have the final say, and more than likely stand on the side of the people of Alabama and with the power of Article II, simply put an end to the cons nonsense and pardon Moore.

Truth is, the Con overstepped his bounds when he made that threat, and if I were Moore, I'd have called his ass out to follow through, because believe me, the country hates the con far more than they do Moore, a man that stood up against leftist govt when they forced the removal of the Ten Commandments.

My personal belief? The Con placed a bet he can't back, and is about to discover he has far fewer allies than he thinks he has.
This is that thing I've been talking about with the split between Conservatives and leftists.
The leftists have all the power seats as well as the RNC purse, so they hold power over anyone running for reelection.
Thing is, they don't have a majority of leftists in office, these scum are about to see just how little power they wield after 2018 when a huge amount of RINO vacate their seats.
Once Conservatives have 51%, they'll be the ones in power and those that rode the fence and voted with the Con will happily abandon the left and vote majority Conservative, because so much easier to keep campaign promises and not look like a hypocrite.

I think the Con is so desperate, he made this hollow threat purely out of fear, because he knows the internal numbers show that he's about to lose power.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Hoofer on November 23, 2017, 06:17:35 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2017, 04:24:49 AM
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So my point is, his manipulation of a majority vote to remove a Senator via Article I of the Constitution, this would more than split the party, it could even lead to a constitutional crisis and if gone unchecked, destroy the Republic and the people's faith in a working govt.
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I think the Con is so desperate, he made this hollow threat purely out of fear, because he knows the internal numbers show that he's about to lose power.
McConnell does seem a little slow reacting to public sentiment.  Virginia goes full Democrat, and like a flash of brilliance, "Let's pass a TAX plan, and, and, and... let's eliminate the Obamacare Mandate in it too!!!   See, we can be Republicans again!   hello?  Is anyone listening?"

The old fart must have realized there is something alive beyond the beltway.  I'm with you on Moore, expecting him to win - McConnell is simply on the wrong side of that campaign, acting completely illogical.
Title: Re: Roy Moore's Challenger Says
Post by: Solar on November 23, 2017, 06:35:29 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 23, 2017, 06:17:35 AM
McConnell does seem a little slow reacting to public sentiment.  Virginia goes full Democrat, and like a flash of brilliance, "Let's pass a TAX plan, and, and, and... let's eliminate the Obamacare Mandate in it too!!!   See, we can be Republicans again!   hello?  Is anyone listening?"

The old fart must have realized there is something alive beyond the beltway.  I'm with you on Moore, expecting him to win - McConnell is simply on the wrong side of that campaign, acting completely illogical.
Add to that, the latest poll not only has Moore ahead but makes an interesting prediction based in reality.
This has been my point all along, that Alabama is a solid Red State and Jones is a Commie.
I tried to post the entire piece but it formatted terribly.


SUMMARY Republican Roy Moore holds a 43-40 lead over Democrat Doug Jones


CONCLUSION The worst of the storm is over and Moore holds a lead that at worst case scenario is three points. He retains a strong following and even many of those concerned about the scandal are voting for him anyway. Jones leftist agenda, including his strong and passionate advocacy for late-term abortions, has defined him as a radical extremist out of touch with Alabama voters. Once Thanksgiving and the Iron Bowl are out of the way,  Alabamians will begin focusing on this race with scandal allegations fading in the rear-view mirror. If Jones isn't leading now, there's no way he's going to come back once the race returns to issues. Alabama is just too conservative a state to elect a radical pro-abortion extremist, even over a controversial candidate hated by the national party.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/22/exclusive-another-alabama-poll-roy-moore-leads-democrat-jones-six-points/