RICO standards met?

Started by Hoofer, January 13, 2017, 05:57:15 PM

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Hoofer

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/01/radical-left-planning-mayhem-for-trump-inauguration/

QuoteYesterday we pointed out the massive security being planned for Trump's inauguration. There's a very good reason for that. In addition to fears of terrorist actions, the radical left is planning a number of different actions for inauguration day.

No one on the right tried to ruin Obama's inauguration but that favor will not be repaid.

Reuters reports, via Yahoo News:

Protests will aim to disrupt Trump inauguration: organizers

Thousands of demonstrators are expected to turn out in Washington next week for protests aiming to "shut down" the inauguration of Donald Trump as the next U.S. president, organizers said on Thursday.

Protesters will attempt to close down 12 security checkpoints at the U.S. Capitol, where Trump will take the oath of office on Jan. 20, and along the 2.5-mile (4-km) parade route down Pennsylvania Avenue, according to leaders of a group called DisruptJ20.

"We want to shut down the inauguration," organizer David Thurston told a news conference. "We want to see a seething rebellion develop in this city and across the country."

HOW... does this not rise to the level of organized crime?  Doesn't this meet the standards of RICO?  Nothing about this is legal, to plan an illegal act, deliberate attempt to riot.

https://itsgoingdown.org/ten-reasons-go-hard-january-20th/

QuoteThe price of failure is dire. Imagine the worst case scenario, in which millions of fans cheer for Trump while fascist gangs beat up protesters around Washington, DC. That would embolden right-wing thugs all over the country, provoking a new wave of racist attacks and recruiting: it would make 2017 the equivalent of 1932 in Germany. At the very least, we owe it to those who are determined to demonstrate in DC to make sure that they are not alone.

On the other hand, if the demonstrations succeed, we shouldn't let them be a missed opportunity. In the best-case scenario, Trump's inauguration will be massively disrupted. Even in that case, however, it is still possible that the message that comes out of the protests will be the kind of reformism that failed so catastrophically under Obama, the same authoritarian liberal politics that set the stage for Trump to come to power in the first place. Everyone who has a thoroughgoing vision of liberation should be in Washington, DC to present it to the world.

Maybe I'm wrong in suggesting they want to covert America to a National-Socialist State, but it appears to me, they are actually fighting against a Representative Republic, in favor of a Dictatorship.  By opening the gates of America to this wave of unchecked crime, Obama has encouraged civil disobedience - which could easily end in a police state, run by a handful of elitists and their Dictator.   

There is nothing romantic or noble about destroying the institutions and foundation of America - you'll lose the very freedom that gave you the voice to peaceably assemble.   These people are either stupid and short-sighted -or- trying to overthrow law and order, in which case, they *ought* to be charged with a RICO type, organized crime and locked up.

.... on the other-hand, it sounds like a 'target rich environment' for Mounted Police and Police Dogs.
One snarling Doberman looks mean.... A pair running at you is terrifying, if they're not yours.

NEWS FLASH!!!

Obama does his part to contribute to civil unrest....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commanding-general-of-dc-national-guard-to-be-removed-from-post/2017/01/13/725a0438-d99e-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html?utm_term=.1c511265baee

QuoteThe Army general who heads the D.C. National Guard and has an integral part in overseeing the inauguration said Friday that he will be removed from command effective at 12:01 p.m. Jan. 20, just as Donald Trump is sworn in as president.

Maj. Gen. Errol R. Schwartz's departure will come in the middle of the presidential ceremony — classified as a national special security event — and while thousands of his troops are deployed to help protect the nation's capital during an inauguration he has spent months helping to plan.

"The timing is extremely unusual," Schwartz said in an interview Friday morning, confirming a memo announcing his ouster that was obtained by The Washington Post. During the inauguration, Schwartz will command not only members of the D.C. Guard but also 5,000 unarmed troops dispatched from across the country to help. He also will oversee military air support protecting Washington during the inauguration.

Curious timing... like it's somehow coordinated with the planned protests to allow easier disruption of the Inauguration.
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Hoofer

Quote from: The Boo Man... on January 13, 2017, 06:19:56 PM
Being that it is supposed to be warm I predict a circus. A circus that will only backfire.

It would appear these protest events are becoming scripted like a Hollywood movie. 

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Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Hoofer on January 13, 2017, 05:57:15 PM

HOW... does this not rise to the level of organized crime?  Doesn't this meet the standards of RICO?  Nothing about this is legal, to plan an illegal act, deliberate attempt to riot.


These people are either stupid and short-sighted -or- trying to overthrow law and order, in which case, they *ought* to be charged with a RICO type, organized crime and locked up.

.... on the other-hand, it sounds like a 'target rich environment' for Mounted Police and Police Dogs.
One snarling Doberman looks mean.... A pair running at you is terrifying, if they're not yours.

NEWS FLASH!!!

Obama does his part to contribute to civil unrest....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/commanding-general-of-dc-national-guard-to-be-removed-from-post/2017/01/13/725a0438-d99e-11e6-b8b2-cb5164beba6b_story.html?utm_term=.1c511265baee

Curious timing... like it's somehow coordinated with the planned protests to allow easier disruption of the Inauguration.


No it isn't RICO....but yes it is illegal. It is illegal to conspiracy to riot. Which is what some of this stuff
planned" is. However, there has to be a riot before you can charge anyone under this statute which is DC law, not federal.

These groups are going to get the surprise of their lives when they run up against the small army of Cops of various agencies in DC from the Metro PD, the Park Police, US Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective service etc etc.

I worked every Inaugural from 1973 to Slick Willies Second in the 90's. The loony left has always had a presence. I would say the biggest leftist threat was in Reagans first inaugural when the Revolutionary Communist party threatened the same mayhem as these current crop of idiots, Then we had the Yippies, Youth international party who had Aaron Kay promising to "pie: Ronald Reagan....hit him in the face with a cream pie. They had tried earlier to Pie the Pope and failed....But that's another story. In the inaugural  There were more plainclothesmen in that Crowd than there were demonstrators, I being one of them....trust me, no mayhem was committed, a lot of yelling and screaming and some bleeding on their part. But despite their best efforts Ronnie's first inaugural went off smoothly.

Security for Slick Willies second was very tight, due to terrorist threats, we used a layering system, magnetometers and aggressive stop and frisk, I expect security in this case to be even tighter.

If the Great Policeman in the sky....cold weather, rain or snow doesn't take a hand, these buffoons are going to find out the streets and access areas are already shut down days in advance. They will be regulated to certain designated park areas to protest and they will be contained by walls of tour busses, cement barricades and legions of Cops VERY EAGER to go into war mode now that there is a real President and a real AG back on the block.

These little snowflakes who get arrested and go to the cold clammy, Central Cell block for the night locked in with DC worst criminals with a baloney sandwich and stale coffee  will learn a lesson. The rest will learn and even more valuable lesson: The age old mantra of the Metropolitan DC Police: We are the Biggest baddest gang in town, we own the streets, you don;t, we do our best work after sundown... be out of town by then. :popcorn:
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quiller

Why not detain a few key players for questioning, maybe an 0400 stop-and-frisk and a New York phone book of questions to end after, say, 2:00 P.M.? I want head of the line on who interrogates Michael Moore. I was a sailor. I'll bring harpoons.

Too bad we're seeing warm weather. Woulda loved minus 15 Fahrenheit...and lots of fire truck hose-downs.

(*shrug*)

Hoofer

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 14, 2017, 05:52:16 AM

No it isn't RICO....but yes it is illegal. It is illegal to conspiracy to riot. Which is what some of this stuff
planned" is. However, there has to be a riot before you can charge anyone under this statute which is DC law, not federal.

This looks pretty broad in the Wikipedia summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
QuoteUnder RICO, a person who has committed "at least two acts of racketeering activity" drawn from a list of 35 crimes—27 federal crimes and 8 state crimes—within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering if such acts are related in one of four specified ways to an "enterprise". {{Citation needed}} Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and sentenced to 20 years in prison per racketeering count. {{Citation needed}} In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity." {{Citation needed}}
When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he or she has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to temporarily seize a defendant's assets and prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property, as well as require the defendant to put up a performance bond. This provision was placed in the law because the owners of Mafia-related shell corporations often absconded with the assets. An injunction and/or performance bond ensures that there is something to seize in the event of a guilty verdict.
In many cases, the threat of a RICO indictment can force defendants to plead guilty to lesser charges, in part because the seizure of assets would make it difficult to pay a defense attorney. Despite its harsh provisions, a RICO-related charge is considered easy to prove in court, as it focuses on patterns of behavior as opposed to criminal acts.[2]
RICO also permits a private individual "damaged in his business or property" by a "racketeer" to file a civil suit. The plaintiff must prove the existence of an "enterprise". The defendant(s) are not the enterprise; in other words, the defendant(s) and the enterprise are not one and the same.[3] There must be one of four specified relationships between the defendant(s) and the enterprise: either the defendant(s) invested the proceeds of the pattern of racketeering activity into the enterprise (18 U.S.C. § 1962(a)); or the defendant(s) acquired or maintained an interest in, or control of, the enterprise through the pattern of racketeering activity (subsection (b)); or the defendant(s) conducted or participated in the affairs of the enterprise "through" the pattern of racketeering activity (subsection (c)); or the defendant(s) conspired to do one of the above (subsection (d)).[4] In essence, the enterprise is either the 'prize,' 'instrument,' 'victim,' or 'perpetrator' of the racketeers.[5] A civil RICO action can be filed in state or federal court.[6]
Both the criminal and civil components allow the recovery of treble damages (damages in triple the amount of actual/compensatory damages). 

George Soros - imagine him sitting in a cell, the result of property owners seeking 3x compensation for BLM rioting & torching their small businesses.
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Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Hoofer on January 14, 2017, 06:43:44 AM
This looks pretty broad in the Wikipedia summary:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
George Soros - imagine him sitting in a cell, the result of property owners seeking 3x compensation for BLM rioting & torching their small businesses.

The problem is you have to have "A racket.....protesting i not a racket it is a right and protected under the first amendt.
And you would have to PROVE that Soros financed this whole ting, not imply it and you would have to prove he broke the law in doing so, remember it is not illegal to organize or finance protests which are protected under the first amendt.

Besides, NOBODY in the DOJ is investigating Soros....hopefully that might change.
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Solar

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 14, 2017, 01:47:05 PM
The problem is you have to have "A racket.....protesting i not a racket it is a right and protected under the first amendt.
And you would have to PROVE that Soros financed this whole ting, not imply it and you would have to prove he broke the law in doing so, remember it is not illegal to organize or finance protests which are protected under the first amendt.

Besides, NOBODY in the DOJ is investigating Soros....hopefully that might change.
Of course not, he helped finance their cmpaign. :biggrin:
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The DC-area is already 'shut-down' essentially, except for corridors of commerce. 

Official press-releases/security-statements are scripted in 'black-OP' style, to confuse amateur protest-organizations...  " We're doing the same things we did in 2013. "

Sure they are.

Leftists are going to be baffled as hell.  And will be doing a lot of walking in a fleeting time-window.

As for a coup d'etat...  Conspirators should be prosecuted with terrible swiftness.


Hoofer

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 14, 2017, 01:47:05 PM
The problem is you have to have "A racket.....protesting i not a racket it is a right and protected under the first amendt.
And you would have to PROVE that Soros financed this whole ting, not imply it and you would have to prove he broke the law in doing so, remember it is not illegal to organize or finance protests which are protected under the first amendt.

Besides, NOBODY in the DOJ is investigating Soros....hopefully that might change.

You're probably right....   LOL, I hope they're saying to themselves, "I'll never do that stupid protest thing again!  They wouldn't pay me!!!"
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ferguson-Missouri-paid-protesters/2015/05/25/id/646587/

QuoteAkiba Solomon of Colorlines stated, "More than 500 of us have traveled from Boston, Chicago, Columbus, Detroit, Houston, Los Angeles, Nashville, Portland, Tucson, Washington, D.C., Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and other cities to support the people of Ferguson and help turn a local moment into a national movement," the Times noted.

"There's absolutely no doubt that part of the reason that Ferguson flared up was because protesters were being paid to be there. That makes you wonder how many are being paid in Baltimore? How many more will be paid in the future?" The Right Scoop asked.

Astro-turf.  But, there's a feel-good epilogue
QuoteThe unpaid rent-a-mob operatives complain that MORE stiffed them the same way ACORN did to hired protesters throughout its 40 years of radical left-wing rabble-rousing. The ACORN network's leadership was always predominantly white while its foot soldiers were mostly non-white, a fact that caused tension within the criminal community organizing outfit.

Blogger Kristinn Taylor reported at St. Louis-based blogger Jim Hoft's website, Gateway Pundit, that "lack activists held a sit-in at the office of MORE ... on Thursday to press their claim that groups led by whites have collected tens of thousands of dollars in donations off of the Black Lives Matter movement without paying the Black participants their fair share."

One of the angry protesters can be observed threatening MORE executive director Jeff Ordower, a bald white man, in a video posted to the Twitter account of @search4swag on May 14 with the hashtag #CutTheCheck.

"We gonna just fuck you up," she said to Ordower from across a boardroom-style table.

It's all about the MONEY.   Unfortunately, this does NOTHING to restore the small businesses which were ransacked, robbed and burnt out.
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Billy's bayonet

Thank you for seeing the light ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!

The business of protesting (that's right, I said Business) is a main source of employment for otherwise unemployables of the left. Back in the day the anti Nuke movement was the big ticket. They were staging demo's and march's just about every weekend in DC. They would have 5, 10 sometimes 20 thousand people. They would come in with whole battalions of tour buses from all over the US. THOSE BUSES COST MONEY. They would have T shirts, button's,signs, hand out flyers etc etc. All that adds up, $$$$$$$$

You would see the same "organizers" week after week. That is what they did for a living....professional protestors, when some other leftist cause came up, you would see the same faces, lining people up off the squadrons of tour buses,handing out signs, a different set of T shirts, Button flyers etc espousing that cause.

Not too hard to figure out some big money was behind it all.

Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Ghoulardi

As Rush said, the last time Democrats were this mad, Lincoln freed the slaves.

Everybody should take a lesson about progressives: what do those self-professed 'enlightened' ones do when the don't get their way? They riot and throw temper tantrums.

kit saginaw

Quote from: Ghoulardi on January 16, 2017, 04:00:06 AM
Everybody should take a lesson about progressives: what do those self-professed 'enlightened' ones do when the don't get their way? They riot and throw temper tantrums.

We are.  Blacks who refuse to attend the Inauguration are Racist.

It's nice to seem them on-the-defensive.