Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.

These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.

Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.

Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.

This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.

In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.

So.... Russia didn't steal the election from Hillary and you admit that was a hoax?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.

Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.

States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx


Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).


But again, our elections work fine.

no, srry not a single state does all vote by mail, try having some proof of that, and not a leftist opinion piece. So no evidence of all mail voting? Ok so the left is just using it to cheat then.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)


No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.

Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.

While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).

Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.

Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).

Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?

Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf

We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?

wow you still think mail in and absentee are the same? Do you realize how foolish you look? Srry dear, but mail in didnt exist before this election. Go ahead and prove me wrong.....

Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.

These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.

Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.

Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.

This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.

In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.

BWAHAHAHA solar just proved you wrong yet somehow your TDS turns it around and thinks he is proving you right? Wow, you are very very gullible....

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!

I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!

No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!

Now do you fuckin get it?    I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!

See he really knows what he is doing. They say "how many have been caught and convicted? If people arent caught and convicted for it then voter fraud doesnt exist!"

Then when you show them proof it is happening they do a 180 and scream "Those ones were caught so it proves the system catches all the fraud! Voter fraud doesnt exist!"

So whether voter fraud is being exposed or not they will try to claim it isnt an issue either way. There is NO criteria in their minds which justifies further investigation into it.

Quite childish actually.

Quote from: taxed on July 30, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
So.... Russia didn't steal the election from Hillary and you admit that was a hoax?

I think that will cause his computer, i mean brain, to freeze and crash.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 31, 2020, 05:06:45 AM
See he really knows what he is doing. They say "how many have been caught and convicted? If people arent caught and convicted for it then voter fraud doesnt exist!"

Then when you show them proof it is happening they do a 180 and scream "Those ones were caught so it proves the system catches all the fraud! Voter fraud doesnt exist!"

So whether voter fraud is being exposed or not they will try to claim it isnt an issue either way. There is NO criteria in their minds which justifies further investigation into it.

Quite childish actually.

I swear, I stared at the screen wondering if this was another one of Joe's acts, or he really was that gullibly brainwashed, Or just plain stupid?

Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!

I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!

No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!

Now do you fuckin get it?    I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!

I never said there was no fraud. I said our elections are remarkably safe.

Just like flying in an airplane is remarkably safe. It doesn't mean there aren't accidents.

We already do all-mail voting and it's fine. You can choose to hate our elections, but I don't. I know they work and I know they can be improved.

If you're so enamored with, and trust only in-person voting, join me in asking the Republicans to expand early voting and polling sites to make it easier. We could even make Election Day a National holiday.

Quote from: T Hunt on July 31, 2020, 04:59:41 AM
no, srry not a single state does all vote by mail, try having some proof of that, and not a leftist opinion piece. So no evidence of all mail voting? Ok so the left is just using it to cheat then.

You're wrong. Look it up. Or read the link provided.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
I never said there was no fraud. I said our elections are remarkably safe.

Just like flying in an airplane is remarkably safe. It doesn't mean there aren't accidents.

We already do all-mail voting and it's fine. You can choose to hate our elections, but I don't. I know they work and I know they can be improved.

If you're so enamored with, and trust only in-person voting, join me in asking the Republicans to expand early voting and polling sites to make it easier. We could even make Election Day a National holiday.

Joe, STFU! We do not do mail in voting as the left wants to do this election, so stop fuckin lying!!!
You got your ass handed to you, so drop it!

Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2020, 06:15:53 AM
Joe, STFU! We do not do mail in voting as the left wants to do this election, so stop fuckin lying!!!
You got your ass handed to you, so drop it!

States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?

The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?

The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.

Someone please ban this lying stupid troll.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
States that conduct all elections by mail:

Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?

The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.

Bull Shit!!!
Joe, you have no fuckin clue what you're talking about! I proved you wrong, and now you want to continue to double down on stupid?
The link you provided stated that these are Absentee Ballots, all of which require in person registration.

If you have something credible, post it, but what you're claiming here is a blatant lie!

Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2020, 06:50:30 AM
Bull Shit!!!
Joe, you have no fuckin clue what you're talking about! I proved you wrong, and now you want to continue to double down on stupid?
The link you provided stated that these are Absentee Ballots, all of which require in person registration.

If you have something credible, post it, but what you're claiming here is a blatant lie!

They don't require in-person registration. They require you to be registered. That is all.

I even provided the State Laws for all-mail voting for your information.

Simply put, we do this already. We've been doing it. And from the Executive Order your Governor signed, it's basically what these all-mail voting States already do.

Additionally, in Cali, any County that wants can do all-mail voting. So the framework is already there for you all.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:59:16 AM
They don't require in-person registration. They require you to be registered. That is all.

I even provided the State Laws for all-mail voting for your information.

Simply put, we do this already. We've been doing it. And from the Executive Order your Governor signed, it's basically what these all-mail voting States already do.

Additionally, in Cali, any County that wants can do all-mail voting. So the framework is already there for you all.

OK Joe, time is up. You completely contradicted yourself as well as proved me Right all in the first sentence.

Come back with more of this bull shit and you're getting a couple of weeks, maybe more off, I'm done with your fuckin trolling!