The whole "mail-in ballots are frauuuudddd!!!!" is funny. Must have excuses built in for Nov.
Republicans rail against all-mail elections, but they vote by mailhttps://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/04/16/republicans-rail-against-all-mail-elections-but-they-vote-by-mail/
QuoteSaying it is ripe for fraud, many Arizona Republican lawmakers oppose the idea of sending mail ballots to all voters during the COVID-19 crisis, but 79% of the GOP caucus opts for the U.S. Postal Service to deliver their vote.
According to public records, 72 legislators are currently registered onto the Permanent Early Voting List, or PEVL — 37 Republicans and 35 Democrats (one Republican's voting record is sealed).
Lawmakers like Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita, R-Scottsdale, Rep. Travis Grantham, R-Gilbert, Rep. Warren Petersen, R-Gilbert, Rep. Shawnna Bolick, R-Phoenix, and others have argued against election officials mailing all registered voters a ballot, even temporarily, saying either that it leads to voter fraud, or it disenfranchises voters by limiting their methods of voting.
I don't trust the USPS to deliver Christmas Cards, but I'm supposed to trust them to send election ballots? To the right addresses? To the right person? Who is actually still registered in the correct precinct? And not have DemonCraps steal the ballots, and vote in their place? IIRC DemonCraps have been against producing ID when you go down to vote. You know the same ID you have to produce every time you fly a plane or enter a federal building.
Do you even know the difference in a mail in ballot, and an Absentee ballot?
You can hide from the truth when it's right in your face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqzKjTTYyY&feature=emb_title
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 08:35:47 AM
Do you even know the difference in a mail in ballot, and an Absentee ballot?
In Florida they're the same thing.
What are the differences in Cali?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 09:36:24 AM
In Florida they're the same thing.
What are the differences in Cali?
So all of Florida uses absentee ballots?
We use them here in Washington state also .. They even come self stamped .. And still people dont bother to send them in. My issue with them is ballot harvesting .. Happened in california ..
If people can stand in line for a funeral, they can certainly stand in line to vote .
Quote from: karen on July 30, 2020, 09:49:26 AM
We use them here in Washington state also .. They even come self stamped .. And still people dont bother to send them in. My issue with them is ballot harvesting .. Happened in california ..
If people can stand in line for a funeral, they can certainly stand in line to vote .
That's the whole point. If you can go to the grocery store or anywhere else why not a voting booth? If it's ok to gather and protest then why can't you go into a voting poll. Demonrats are corrupt and dishonest as the day is long. Demonrats also think everyone is as stupid as they are.
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 09:46:43 AM
So all of Florida uses absentee ballots?
We call it Vote-by-Mail. Everyone can either do that or go in person.
How does California do it?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 10:04:17 AM
We call it Vote-by-Mail. Everyone can either do that or go in person.
How does California do it?
That's not what I asked! Are these absentee ballots?
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 10:21:10 AM
That's not what I asked! Are these absentee ballots?
Maybe. Define: Absentee ballot
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 10:56:08 AM
Maybe. Define: Absentee ballot
Just admit you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground Joe the lying Troll.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 10:56:08 AM
Maybe. Define: Absentee ballot
Come on Joe, you're the one attempting to correlate the two as one in the same. Prove it!!!!
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 11:27:01 AM
Come on Joe, you're the one attempting to correlate the two as one in the same. Prove it!!!!
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.
What's wrong with that?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.
What's wrong with that?
Because anyone can vote, even people out of country! Careful what you wish for, this could completely backfire on the left if out of country influences decide they want Trump.
Bottom line, it's stupid, the left doesn't want voter ID, claiming it's racist, furthering our message that libs think blacks are too stupid to vote.
Here is Ca, the Guv wants this shit! Now tell me, can you not see an issue?
The order requires county election officials to send vote-by-mail ballots to all voters in time for the November election.
"No Californian should be forced to risk their health in order to exercise their right to vote," Newsom said in a statement.
These groups, the statement says, include disabled, non-English speaking and homeless voters.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.
What's wrong with that?
Just think a little deeper. People can request a ballot and they can vote by mail. The "vote by mail" proposal is to send all registered voters a ballot.
Is that too hard to comprehend?
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 30, 2020, 12:18:43 PM
Just think a little deeper. People can request a ballot and they can vote by mail. The "vote by mail" proposal is to send all registered voters a ballot.
Is that too hard to comprehend?
Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election.
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2020, 12:41:16 PM
Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election.
He knows exactly what this entails, that's why he supports it, he knows it would be packed with fraud.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.
What's wrong with that?
Here ya go Joe, real world evidence that fraud would and did occur!
CRIMEPublished 34 mins ago
4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announces
Four men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.
Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.
Christopher Joseph Williams, 41, and Nickey Demelvin Huntley, 45, each pleaded no contest to one felony count of circulating an initiative or petition containing false, forged or fictitious names.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 09:36:24 AM
In Florida they're the same thing.
What are the differences in Cali?
No they arent, absentee has never been mail in voting. Those are different systems.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 11:46:28 AM
In Florida it is. Everyone that wants to vote by mail can. There's no restriction.
What's wrong with that?
Bruh, come on. Thats a bold faced lie. You cant be that uninformed can you? Unless you are very young....
Quote from: T Hunt on July 30, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
Bruh, come on. Thats a bold faced lie. You cant be that uninformed can you? Unless you are very young....
Or.........
Quote from: Possum on July 30, 2020, 12:41:16 PM
Joe, Supsalemgr nailed it for you. You're right in Florida anyone can vote absentee, BUT, first you have to request a ballot and one will be mailed to you. What the liberals are proposing is BLANKET mail out to each and every home, regardless of whether it was asked for or not. When you consider 40% of the people do not vote, the opportunity for fraud is huge! Just wait for the ballots to come in, compare them to those that did not come in and vote for them. This could make lbj look like an honest politician. Ballots will still be coming in weeks after the election.
But not everyone can vote absentee. You have to go thru some hoops first. Thats the differenece with mail in, no hoops to jump thru, no checks and balances. No states has ever allowed all voters to vote absentee. You always have to sign up for it at the least. Thats entirely different from mail in voting which is entirely new to this election cycle.
EDIT: I see thats actually what you were saying :biggrin:
Also leftist judges can just rule mail in votes from conservative areas not valid for some made up reason.
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 11:52:50 AM
Because anyone can vote, even people out of country! Careful what you wish for, this could completely backfire on the left if out of country influences decide they want Trump.
Bottom line, it's stupid, the left doesn't want voter ID, claiming it's racist, furthering our message that libs think blacks are too stupid to vote.
Here is Ca, the Guv wants this shit! Now tell me, can you not see an issue?
The order requires county election officials to send vote-by-mail ballots to all voters in time for the November election.
"No Californian should be forced to risk their health in order to exercise their right to vote," Newsom said in a statement.
These groups, the statement says, include disabled, non-English speaking and homeless voters.
A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.
Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day. (https://dos.myflorida.com/media/697842/2016-ge-summaries-ballots-by-type-activity.pdf)
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
But again, our elections work fine.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.
Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day. (https://dos.myflorida.com/media/697842/2016-ge-summaries-ballots-by-type-activity.pdf)
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
But again, our elections work fine.
Again, you are conflating mail in with absentee ballots! You just proved my point.
From your source.
"All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone."The same thing takes place in Ca, especially my county where we all vote absentee. I was forced to jump through hoops to get registered, because they want proof you live where you claim. Utility bills, I don't have utilities, I've been off grid for more than 30 years, even the title to my land wasn't good enough, they wanted proof I reside where I claim.
The shit the DNC is pulling does not require any of those things, Hell, even a Canadian can vote in our elections if he asks for a damn ballot under DNC rules!
Why do you support election fraud? You do realize the Right might be so sick of this shit, they may start asking for ballots for their pets and sway the election for Trump.
How does that sound?
(https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/older-i-get-more-i-understand-why-ernest-bass-threw-rocks-at-people.jpg?w=506&ssl=1)
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 07:14:20 PM
Again, you are conflating mail in with absentee ballots! You just proved my point.
From your source. "All-mail elections can be thought of as absentee voting for everyone."
The same thing takes place in Ca, especially my county where we all vote absentee. I was forced to jump through hoops to get registered, because they want proof you live where you claim. Utility bills, I don't have utilities, I've been off grid for more than 30 years, even the title to my land wasn't good enough, they wanted proof I reside where I claim.
The shit the DNC is pulling does not require any of those things, Hell, even a Canadian can vote in our elections if he asks for a damn ballot under DNC rules!
Why do you support election fraud? You do realize the Right might be so sick of this shit, they may start asking for ballots for their pets and sway the election for Trump.
How does that sound?
(https://i1.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/older-i-get-more-i-understand-why-ernest-bass-threw-rocks-at-people.jpg?w=506&ssl=1)
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.
Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.
While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?
Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf
We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.
Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.
While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).
Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?
Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf
We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?
What part of registering to vote in person, do you not understand?
The DNC is noted for fraud, that's why you're getting so much shit for your stupidity!
4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announcesFour men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.
Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 07:43:26 PM
What part of registering to vote in person, do you not understand?
The DNC is noted for fraud, that's why you're getting so much shit for your stupidity!
4 LA men admit to Skid Row voter-fraud scheme, DA announces
Four men have admitted to offering homeless people in Los Angeles money and cigarettes in exchange for false and forged signatures on ballot petitions and voter registration forms, authorities said Wednesday.
Richard Howard, 64, and Louis Thomas Wise, 37, pleaded no contest last week to one felony count each of subscribing a fictitious name, or the name of another to an initiative petition and registration of a fictitious person, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office said.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/4-la-men-admit-to-skid-row-voter-fraud-scheme-da-announces
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.
These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.
Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.
Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.
This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.
In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.
These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.
Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.
Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.
This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.
In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.
https://themarketswork.com/2018/10/31/is-voter-fraud-real-a-look-at-californias-illegal-voter-registration-problem/
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.
These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.
Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.
Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.
This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.
In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.
Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!
I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!
No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!
Now do you fuckin get it? I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.
These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.
Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.
Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.
This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.
In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.
So.... Russia didn't steal the election from Hillary and you admit that was a hoax?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
A few States already do all-mail voting and many more, like mine, make it available to everyone.
Our elections seem to still be working fine. This isn't a new invention.
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
Additioanlly, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day. (https://dos.myflorida.com/media/697842/2016-ge-summaries-ballots-by-type-activity.pdf)
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
But again, our elections work fine.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: no, srry not a single state does all vote by mail, try having some proof of that, and not a leftist opinion piece. So no evidence of all mail voting? Ok so the left is just using it to cheat then.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
No, those states listed are what I think you would consider all-mail voting.
Everyone that's registered gets a ballot sent.
While "all-mail elections" means that every registered voter receives a ballot by mail, this does not preclude in-person voting opportunities on and/or before Election Day. For example, despite the fact that all registered voters in Colorado are mailed a ballot, voters can choose to cast a ballot at an in-person vote center during the early voting period or on Election Day (or drop off, or mail, their ballot back).
Additionally, in my State, for example, as many people voted-by-mail as on Election Day.
Most people vote early when available (which is why I don't understand why Republicans are cutting early voting and polling places).
Are you under the impression that Unregistered Voters will receive ballots?
Even that Executive Order your Governor signed is for Registered Voters only.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/05.08.2020-EO-N-64-20-text.pdf
We're good. If you can do it, why can't the rest of your State?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: wow you still think mail in and absentee are the same? Do you realize how foolish you look? Srry dear, but mail in didnt exist before this election. Go ahead and prove me wrong.....
Quote from: joesixpack on July 30, 2020, 07:50:59 PM
My point exactly. Our elections are remarkably safe.
These people got caught in the Registration process. You already said registering was annoying and you had to jump through many hoops.
Several other States already do Vote by Mail successfully.
Many more States allow anyone to vote by mail who requests it.
This isn't a new creation. If you don't trust the elections now, you couldn't have trusted them before.
In which case, it's a personal issue and not worth discussing because nothing will make you comfortable.
BWAHAHAHA solar just proved you wrong yet somehow your TDS turns it around and thinks he is proving you right? Wow, you are very very gullible....
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!
I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!
No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!
Now do you fuckin get it? I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!
See he really knows what he is doing. They say "how many have been caught and convicted? If people arent caught and convicted for it then voter fraud doesnt exist!"
Then when you show them proof it is happening they do a 180 and scream "Those ones were caught so it proves the system catches all the fraud! Voter fraud doesnt exist!"
So whether voter fraud is being exposed or not they will try to claim it isnt an issue either way. There is NO criteria in their minds which justifies further investigation into it.
Quite childish actually.
Quote from: taxed on July 30, 2020, 08:23:20 PM
So.... Russia didn't steal the election from Hillary and you admit that was a hoax?
I think that will cause his computer, i mean brain, to freeze and crash.
Quote from: T Hunt on July 31, 2020, 05:06:45 AM
See he really knows what he is doing. They say "how many have been caught and convicted? If people arent caught and convicted for it then voter fraud doesnt exist!"
Then when you show them proof it is happening they do a 180 and scream "Those ones were caught so it proves the system catches all the fraud! Voter fraud doesnt exist!"
So whether voter fraud is being exposed or not they will try to claim it isnt an issue either way. There is NO criteria in their minds which justifies further investigation into it.
Quite childish actually.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I swear, I stared at the screen wondering if this was another one of Joe's acts, or he really was that gullibly brainwashed, Or just plain stupid?
Quote from: Solar on July 30, 2020, 08:11:27 PM
Jeez, you are one the thickest dumb asses on the forum!
I just provided you with evidence that voter fraud exists, ON THE LEFT, and your response is they get caught? Pure Bull Shit!
It proves just how easy it is to get names, for your so called "Mail in votes". Their is a huge difference between just snagging names and applying to vote by mail, which is referred to as ABSENTEE!
No, it is not a new creation, but what the left is doing, IS New! They're claiming to make voting easier by sending EVERYONE a ballot and all you have to do is request one!
Now do you fuckin get it? I could, if I wanted to, request a ballot in my dogs and cats name if I lived in a leftist county! That's fraud and your party is rampant with it!
I never said there was no fraud. I said our elections are remarkably safe.
Just like flying in an airplane is remarkably safe. It doesn't mean there aren't accidents.
We already do all-mail voting and it's fine. You can choose to hate our elections, but I don't. I know they work and I know they can be improved.
If you're so enamored with, and trust only in-person voting, join me in asking the Republicans to expand early voting and polling sites to make it easier. We could even make Election Day a National holiday.
Quote from: T Hunt on July 31, 2020, 04:59:41 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: no, srry not a single state does all vote by mail, try having some proof of that, and not a leftist opinion piece. So no evidence of all mail voting? Ok so the left is just using it to cheat then.
You're wrong. Look it up. Or read the link provided.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
I never said there was no fraud. I said our elections are remarkably safe.
Just like flying in an airplane is remarkably safe. It doesn't mean there aren't accidents.
We already do all-mail voting and it's fine. You can choose to hate our elections, but I don't. I know they work and I know they can be improved.
If you're so enamored with, and trust only in-person voting, join me in asking the Republicans to expand early voting and polling sites to make it easier. We could even make Election Day a National holiday.
Joe, STFU! We do not do mail in voting as the left wants to do this election, so stop fuckin lying!!!
You got your ass handed to you, so drop it!
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2020, 06:15:53 AM
Joe, STFU! We do not do mail in voting as the left wants to do this election, so stop fuckin lying!!!
You got your ass handed to you, so drop it!
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?
The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?
The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.
Someone please ban this lying stupid troll.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?
The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.
Bull Shit!!!
Joe, you have no fuckin clue what you're talking about! I proved you wrong, and now you want to continue to double down on stupid?
The link you provided stated that these are Absentee Ballots, all of which require in person registration.
If you have something credible, post it, but what you're claiming here is a blatant lie!
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2020, 06:50:30 AM
Bull Shit!!!
Joe, you have no fuckin clue what you're talking about! I proved you wrong, and now you want to continue to double down on stupid?
The link you provided stated that these are Absentee Ballots, all of which require in person registration.
If you have something credible, post it, but what you're claiming here is a blatant lie!
They don't require in-person registration. They require you to be registered. That is all.
I even provided the State Laws for all-mail voting for your information.
Simply put, we do this already. We've been doing it. And from the Executive Order your Governor signed, it's basically what these all-mail voting States already do.
Additionally, in Cali, any County that wants can do all-mail voting. So the framework is already there for you all.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:59:16 AM
They don't require in-person registration. They require you to be registered. That is all.
I even provided the State Laws for all-mail voting for your information.
Simply put, we do this already. We've been doing it. And from the Executive Order your Governor signed, it's basically what these all-mail voting States already do.
Additionally, in Cali, any County that wants can do all-mail voting. So the framework is already there for you all.
OK Joe, time is up. You completely contradicted yourself as well as proved me Right all in the first sentence.
Come back with more of this bull shit and you're getting a couple of weeks, maybe more off, I'm done with your fuckin trolling!
I have a question.............?
With the panic of COVID-19 a lot of brick and mortar stores are refusing to accept cash as payment because the paper money could be contaminated with COVID-19.
Why would mail-in voting not be considered as dangerous as paper money, after all Mail-in ballots can be the vehicle to transport COVID-19 just like they are claiming paper money is.
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2020, 08:31:47 AM
OK Joe, time is up. You completely contradicted yourself as well as proved me Right all in the first sentence.
Come back with more of this bull shit and you're getting a couple of weeks, maybe more off, I'm done with your fuckin trolling!
Buddy, how have I contradicted myself? You're confused it seems. Re-read our conversation and let me know if you need any clarifications.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 12:06:33 PM
Buddy, how have I contradicted myself? You're confused it seems. Re-read our conversation and let me know if you need any clarifications.
See ya in a couple of weeks if ever again Joe the lying Troll. Bye bye.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 12:06:33 PM
Buddy, how have I contradicted myself? You're confused it seems. Re-read our conversation and let me know if you need any clarifications.
You're done Joke, I warned you about trolling! Walks, 3 weeks!
Mail in voting is fraud. Real simple; FRAUD. I live in WA with the stupid mail in crap. It is ripe for fraud. It's not OK to say well they might be some mistakes or accidents. Not in a major election. Bad enough with the motor voter crap where the illegals when getting their drivers license also are given a voter registration card which only requires that they sign under penalty of perjury that they have the right to vote. Who checks?
The ONLY way to have an honest election is to vote in person and show your ID to vote, and no, one of those illegal alien drivers license does not give you the right to vote.
When a ballot(s) are mailed to an address, anyone there can open the ballot, vote, and then send it in. No checks on who actually voted.
There is a reason the democraps are pushing this so hard, FRAUD. They are running a demented hair sniffer with a temptation and craving desire for touching and smelling the hair of young girls for president. The democraps also know that the woman of color that Joementia has promised to pick for VP will be nothing short of human garbage. Joementia did not say what color, so I guess he could go with white, but with todays democrap party being led around by the nose by the assholes at Black Lives Matter and antifa the color white is racist.
All vote by mail is the only way for the democraps to steal the next election.
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
I never said there was no fraud. I said our elections are remarkably safe.
Just like flying in an airplane is remarkably safe. It doesn't mean there aren't accidents.
We already do all-mail voting and it's fine. You can choose to hate our elections, but I don't. I know they work and I know they can be improved.
If you're so enamored with, and trust only in-person voting, join me in asking the Republicans to expand early voting and polling sites to make it easier. We could even make Election Day a National holiday.
Then why have they found millions of fraudulent voters? remember, trump won the popular vote among the living and legal. How do you think dems still get elected? Certainly not thru the will of the people.
Srry but you have been unable to show ANY mail in voting and seem to only cite absentee, not any actual instances of mail in.
You do realize easier elections help the right since this is a center right country. Yet we still want it to take a little effort.
You have not shown a single instance of mail in voting prior to this cycle. Are you even interested in having a discussion and proving your point or are you just gonna keep making claims you cant and wont even try to back up?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 05:55:14 AM
You're wrong. Look it up. Or read the link provided.
Srry but you are wrong. I did read your link and doesnt mention mail in at all, only absentee, so you still have not shown any evidence that mail in voting existed priot to this election cycle. Any other attempt at proving your point or do you give up?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:28:41 AM
States that conduct all elections by mail:
Colorado (CRS §1-5-401)
Hawaii (Hawaii Stat. §11-101)
Oregon (ORS §254.465)
Utah (Utah Code Ann. §20A-3a-302)
Washington (Rev. Code of Wash. 29A.40.010)
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx
What does "the left want to do in this election" that's different from what those States are already doing?
The Executive Order from your Governor isn't it. He's proposing the same thing those States already do.
But Joe, can you prove any of these actually do mail it, cuz the article sure doesnt, it only adresses absentee voting. So do you have any actual evidence for mail in or not?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 06:59:16 AM
They don't require in-person registration. They require you to be registered. That is all.
I even provided the State Laws for all-mail voting for your information.
Simply put, we do this already. We've been doing it. And from the Executive Order your Governor signed, it's basically what these all-mail voting States already do.
Additionally, in Cali, any County that wants can do all-mail voting. So the framework is already there for you all.
Except the links only talk about absentee, not mail in. Will you publicly admit that absentee voting is NOT mail in voting or will you continue to claim that without proof?
Quote from: joesixpack on July 31, 2020, 12:06:33 PM
Buddy, how have I contradicted myself? You're confused it seems. Re-read our conversation and let me know if you need any clarifications.
Because you say you have evidence of mail in but only show evidence of absentee, thats where you contradicted yourself. Now will you be a grown up and admit you lost this one?
Quote from: Pop Daddy on July 31, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Mail in voting is fraud. Real simple; FRAUD. I live in WA with the stupid mail in crap. It is ripe for fraud. It's not OK to say well they might be some mistakes or accidents. Not in a major election. Bad enough with the motor voter crap where the illegals when getting their drivers license also are given a voter registration card which only requires that they sign under penalty of perjury that they have the right to vote. Who checks?
The ONLY way to have an honest election is to vote in person and show your ID to vote, and no, one of those illegal alien drivers license does not give you the right to vote.
When a ballot(s) are mailed to an address, anyone there can open the ballot, vote, and then send it in. No checks on who actually voted.
There is a reason the democraps are pushing this so hard, FRAUD. They are running a demented hair sniffer with a temptation and craving desire for touching and smelling the hair of young girls for president. The democraps also know that the woman of color that Joementia has promised to pick for VP will be nothing short of human garbage. Joementia did not say what color, so I guess he could go with white, but with todays democrap party being led around by the nose by the assholes at Black Lives Matter and antifa the color white is racist.
All vote by mail is the only way for the democraps to steal the next election.
Hopefully joe sees this, but it seems he has TDS BAD, and is unable to listen to reason or show any evidence of his claims.
Quote from: Pop Daddy on July 31, 2020, 01:24:36 PM
Mail in voting is fraud. Real simple; FRAUD. I live in WA with the stupid mail in crap. It is ripe for fraud. It's not OK to say well they might be some mistakes or accidents. Not in a major election. Bad enough with the motor voter crap where the illegals when getting their drivers license also are given a voter registration card which only requires that they sign under penalty of perjury that they have the right to vote. Who checks?
The ONLY way to have an honest election is to vote in person and show your ID to vote, and no, one of those illegal alien drivers license does not give you the right to vote.
When a ballot(s) are mailed to an address, anyone there can open the ballot, vote, and then send it in. No checks on who actually voted.
There is a reason the democraps are pushing this so hard, FRAUD. They are running a demented hair sniffer with a temptation and craving desire for touching and smelling the hair of young girls for president. The democraps also know that the woman of color that Joementia has promised to pick for VP will be nothing short of human garbage. Joementia did not say what color, so I guess he could go with white, but with todays democrap party being led around by the nose by the assholes at Black Lives Matter and antifa the color white is racist.
All vote by mail is the only way for the democraps to steal the next election.
Anyone read the Wall Street Journal or care what Jimmy Carter's opinion on vote by mail is (was) when he was heading a commission on fair elections in other nations around the world, after he left the Whitehouse.
(snip)
" Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud." That quote isn't from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It's the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.
Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive..." more.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667
We should not be discussing mail in ballots and absentee ballots in the same thread. Two totally different subjects and it is clear discussing them together confuses liberals.
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 01, 2020, 08:59:48 AM
We should not be discussing mail in ballots and absentee ballots in the same thread. Two totally different subjects and it is clear discussing them together confuses liberals.
The reason you have to breathe confuses liberals.
Quote from: wally on August 01, 2020, 08:02:35 AM
Anyone read the Wall Street Journal or care what Jimmy Carter's opinion on vote by mail is (was) when he was heading a commission on fair elections in other nations around the world, after he left the Whitehouse.
(snip)
" Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud." That quote isn't from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It's the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.
Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive..." more.... https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667
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Interesting find! The Dims 70s savior says it like it is. :thumbsup: