Republicans Need to Stop Being the Stupid Party

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Quote from: Phillip on January 28, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
You said it wasn't gambling. You were wrong as usual.
And lottery, along the same lines as the stock Mkt in bad times, but business investments can, and if you know what you're doing, are not a gamble.

Do you see the difference? Take investing in energy long term, and I mean real energy, not that toy shit "Green"energy, but rather Shell oil, Exon, long term safe returns.
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Quote from: Solar on January 29, 2013, 04:02:52 AM
And lottery, along the same lines as the stock Mkt in bad times, but business investments can, and if you know what you're doing, are not a gamble.

Do you see the difference? Take investing in energy long term, and I mean real energy, not that toy shit "Green"energy, but rather Shell oil, Exon, long term safe returns.



Like I said, any investment without a 100% probability of a positive ROI is a gamble, regardless of the extent. Even municipal bonds where a return is supposed to be guaranteed.

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Quote from: Phillip on January 29, 2013, 07:57:29 AM


Like I said, any investment without a 100% probability of a positive ROI is a gamble, regardless of the extent. Even municipal bonds where a return is supposed to be guaranteed.
But you fail to understand the degrees of what is considered a gamble.
Stock mkt, a gamble, money mkt account, not, lottery, gamble, successful business expansion, not so much.

Now do you see the difference?
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Quote from: Phillip on January 29, 2013, 07:57:29 AM


Like I said, any investment without a 100% probability of a positive ROI is a gamble, regardless of the extent. Even municipal bonds where a return is supposed to be guaranteed.

No Phil.  You invest to make money.  You gamble to hope to make money.
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Solar I dont much think of the stock market as a gamble, I think of it more of a "choose wisely" kinda thing. I've thought about investing and I find it safe personally to go with the big guys who are in the hundreds in money value such as Amazon and Google. But it can be a gamble if you go with a stock that is below $70. It could either mean the stock has just started or it has continuously plummeted each time the stock closes. I advise people to go with stocks that are $100+ just so they have some cushion to ride on and its not as much of a risk.

In a political sense Obamas using our 2nd amendment and economy power as dice to roll into the checkered roulette so our "leaders" taking a gamble.

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Quote from: Balto on January 29, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
Solar I dont much think of the stock market as a gamble, I think of it more of a "choose wisely" kinda thing. I've thought about investing and I find it safe personally to go with the big guys who are in the hundreds in money value such as Amazon and Google. But it can be a gamble if you go with a stock that is below $70. It could either mean the stock has just started or it has continuously plummeted each time the stock closes. I advise people to go with stocks that are $100+ just so they have some cushion to ride on and its not as much of a risk.

In a political sense Obamas using our 2nd amendment and economy power as dice to roll into the checkered roulette so our "leaders" taking a gamble.
At my age, neither of those would show a reasonable return, which is why I no longer mess with it.
I have a money mkt account that brings in several grand a year, more than enough to live off the interest alone.
No gamble, and plenty of return.
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Quote from: taxed on January 29, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
No Phil.  You invest to make money.  You gamble to hope to make money.


And, as I already pointed out, investments are also a form of gambling. You can invest into a business, there is no guarantee of making money. You can invest in real estate, there is no guarantee of making money [As you so eloquently already admitted]. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are also engaging in a form of gambling.  :ttoung:

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Quote from: Phillip on January 29, 2013, 07:35:00 PM

And, as I already pointed out, investments are also a form of gambling. You can invest into a business, there is no guarantee of making money. You can invest in real estate, there is no guarantee of making money [As you so eloquently already admitted]. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are also engaging in a form of gambling.  :ttoung:
Phil, there are no guarantees in life, period, outside of death and taxes.
So your analogy is completely worthless.
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Quote from: Solar on January 29, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
Phil, there are no guarantees in life, period, outside of death and taxes.
So your analogy is completely worthless.


So, essentially, you are agreeing with me. All you had to say.

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Quote from: Phillip on January 29, 2013, 07:56:02 PM

So, essentially, you are agreeing with me. All you had to say.
No, because you are flat ass wrong, there are varying degrees of chance.
Using your logic, walking out the door is a gamble on life, in a sense maybe, but staying home is as well.
Now putting on a razor blade suit and running in traffic may be a bigger gamble, but not many see the return on it, so no one does it.

Your claims are those of a child taking their first logic class, please, try and keep up, will ya.

The stock mkt is a fixed game, with huge winners at the top and chicken scratchings for the peons by comparison, at the bottom.
There is insider trading, even the Dims get caught on occasion, look at Reid and Pelosi' portfolio.
Reid is a multi millionaire, on a fixed income because he pulls the strings on huge deals.
If you think for one second that the stock mkt is safer than investing in an established business, I have Nevada seashore property you would be interested in, millions of acres of beach, and not a soul within miles.
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Quote from: Solar on January 30, 2013, 05:12:28 AM
No, because you are flat ass wrong, there are varying degrees of chance.
Using your logic, walking out the door is a gamble on life, in a sense maybe, but staying home is as well.
Now putting on a razor blade suit and running in traffic may be a bigger gamble, but not many see the return on it, so no one does it.

Your claims are those of a child taking their first logic class, please, try and keep up, will ya.

The stock mkt is a fixed game, with huge winners at the top and chicken scratchings for the peons by comparison, at the bottom.
There is insider trading, even the Dims get caught on occasion, look at Reid and Pelosi' portfolio.
Reid is a multi millionaire, on a fixed income because he pulls the strings on huge deals.
If you think for one second that the stock mkt is safer than investing in an established business, I have Nevada seashore property you would be interested in, millions of acres of beach, and not a soul within miles.
Wow Solar, so youre a millionaire yourself?

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Quote from: Balto on January 30, 2013, 02:40:27 PM
Wow Solar, so youre a millionaire yourself?

There are just over 5.1 million millionaires in the U.S.   :smile:
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