Republicans folding up the Tent

Started by Hoofer, March 02, 2017, 05:25:52 PM

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Jeff Sessions recluses himself from any campaign investigation - after Lindsay Graham and several other weak-kneed RINOs parrot the Democratic talking-points, that there *may* be underwear in his sock drawer.  (one excuse is as good as another, when you're not squarely on the side of your Party, right Lindsay?).

Mike Flynn resigns in humiliation, after allegedly contacting his barber, in a secretive phone call, before facing the media... apparently to cover up a migrating part on his hair line... that would easily sink any Republican candidate.  (hey, your hair & public image must be above reproach, right VP Pence?)

I predict Neal Gorsuch will not pass the Senate... he is NOT a replacement of Justice Anthony Scalia - it is reported he is at least 6" taller.... a terrible micro-aggression - "Height Privileged", clearly indicating he would *not* be impartial to short people.  (the Dems are just getting started with Sessions & Flynn - does anyone HONESTLY believe Gorsuch can muster 50 votes???)

Obama Care will be folded into Medicare or some renamed single-payer, government program, and our healthcare will permanently be managed by bureaucrats, unelected & unaccountable Socialist-leaning, big government types.  Forget about health insurance, this is just another TAX to fund political programs, your health is secondary.  Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan already have their health care covered - until they feel the same pain we do - they will do nothing of substance.

Trump is just 'going it alone' with whatever the hell his agenda is suppose to be.   Defense to Democrats.   I can't say "WE" in the context of "Republicans and ME" anymore - they're gutless cowards, disorganized, rudderless, babbling fools - a complete embarrassment.   
Obviously, the Republican Party has adopted a purely defensive position, incapable of formulating anything like Newt Gingrich of 1994.

The TEA movement is over-due for political action.   The Republican Party is folding up the Tent.
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Ms.Independence

The reality is; we have the same leadership in the Senate and the same leadership that we had in the House; nothing in Congress has changed.  IF Congress doesn't get behind this President in an attempt to unite the party and this country we are done; in essence they will have given their majority (as they have in the past) and all the power that goes along with it to the DEMS.

Trump is trying to go it alone by appointing a strong cabinet; however, because the Senate must approve his appointments, its beginning to look like anything he does is futile. 

If you recall there were rumors that those in Congress (Republicans as well as Democrats) would destroy Trump within his first year of his Presidency...which of course would leave us Pence.  I know very little about Pence but he sure doesn't seem to have the backbone of Trump. 
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Solar

Quote from: Ms.Independence on March 02, 2017, 05:55:48 PM
The reality is; we have the same leadership in the Senate and the same leadership that we had in the House; nothing in Congress has changed.  IF Congress doesn't get behind this President in an attempt to unite the party and this country we are done; in essence they will have given their majority (as they have in the past) and all the power that goes along with it to the DEMS.

Trump is trying to go it alone by appointing a strong cabinet; however, because the Senate must approve his appointments, its beginning to look like anything he does is futile. 

If you recall there were rumors that those in Congress (Republicans as well as Democrats) would destroy Trump within his first year of his Presidency...which of course would leave us Pence.  I know very little about Pence but he sure doesn't seem to have the backbone of Trump.
I see the opposite, I see the GOP scared to death Trump will start singling them out for the cutting block come midterm.
Right now Trump's approval is near 60% higher than Congress, so they need him one Hell of a lot more than he needs them, he can use the pulpit to point out their obstructionist ways and how they try and work against his agenda, an agenda Americans overwhelmingly approved.

No, the GOP is not in any position to do anything but back his every move. After all, he isn't Cruz, he isn't threatening to close the IRS, or cut ethanol subsidies, so he has wiggle room to make them squirm.
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Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
I see the opposite, I see the GOP scared to death Trump will start singling them out for the cutting block come midterm.
Right now Trump's approval is near 60% higher than Congress, so they need him one Hell of a lot more than he needs them, he can use the pulpit to point out their obstructionist ways and how they try and work against his agenda, an agenda Americans overwhelmingly approved.

No, the GOP is not in any position to do anything but back his every move. After all, he isn't Cruz, he isn't threatening to close the IRS, or cut ethanol subsidies, so he has wiggle room to make them squirm.
I may not trust Trump, but I have absolutely zero trust in the GOP.

True but Trump is doing thing Hillary would not do.  Trump will have a up hill battle for the next 4 years.  There a lot that wrong. 
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on March 02, 2017, 06:47:50 PM
True but Trump is doing thing Hillary would not do.  Trump will have a up hill battle for the next 4 years.  There a lot that wrong.
Huh?
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Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2017, 06:54:31 PM
Huh?

QuoteI may not trust Trump

Just saying that Trump is doing what Hillary would not do if she was CIC. 
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Cryptic Bert

Sessions did the right thing. It stops the democrats in their tracks. He did nothing wrong, he didn't lie and recusing himself simply shows good ethics.

Flynn f**ked up and Gorsuch will be confirmed.

The world has not come to an end.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Hoofer on March 02, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
Jeff Sessions recluses himself from any campaign investigation - after Lindsay Graham and several other weak-kneed RINOs parrot the Democratic talking-points, that there *may* be underwear in his sock drawer.  (one excuse is as good as another, when you're not squarely on the side of your Party, right Lindsay?).

Mike Flynn resigns in humiliation, after allegedly contacting his barber, in a secretive phone call, before facing the media... apparently to cover up a migrating part on his hair line... that would easily sink any Republican candidate.  (hey, your hair & public image must be above reproach, right VP Pence?)

I predict Neal Gorsuch will not pass the Senate... he is NOT a replacement of Justice Anthony Scalia - it is reported he is at least 6" taller.... a terrible micro-aggression - "Height Privileged", clearly indicating he would *not* be impartial to short people.  (the Dems are just getting started with Sessions & Flynn - does anyone HONESTLY believe Gorsuch can muster 50 votes???)

Obama Care will be folded into Medicare or some renamed single-payer, government program, and our healthcare will permanently be managed by bureaucrats, unelected & unaccountable Socialist-leaning, big government types.  Forget about health insurance, this is just another TAX to fund political programs, your health is secondary.  Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan already have their health care covered - until they feel the same pain we do - they will do nothing of substance.

Trump is just 'going it alone' with whatever the hell his agenda is suppose to be.   Defense to Democrats.   I can't say "WE" in the context of "Republicans and ME" anymore - they're gutless cowards, disorganized, rudderless, babbling fools - a complete embarrassment.   
Obviously, the Republican Party has adopted a purely defensive position, incapable of formulating anything like Newt Gingrich of 1994.

The TEA movement is over-due for political action.   The Republican Party is folding up the Tent.

Is anybody surprised? Trump will have to go on his own.
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Hoofer

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 03, 2017, 04:43:17 AM
Is anybody surprised? Trump will have to go on his own.

Exactly as I see it, we should not count on the House or Senate to do anything of a Conservative nature - that would be against their 'nature'!

Expect them to DEFEND a good Conservative cabinet appointee, not a chance!

We already know Trump is not going to be a strong Constitutional Conservative- but Trump might be all we got....?   Pretty scary!
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walkstall

Quote from: Hoofer on March 03, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
Exactly as I see it, we should not count on the House or Senate to do anything of a Conservative nature - that would be against their 'nature'!

Expect them to DEFEND a good Conservative cabinet appointee, not a chance!

We already know Trump is not going to be a strong Constitutional Conservative- but Trump might be all we got....?   Pretty scary!


The media and RINO's spent a year build up and creating Trump.  Now MSM and RINO's will spend 4 to 8 years tearing Trump down.

We have leaned one thing over the last two years.  Trump knows how to play the press.  Now he need to use that on the RINO's also. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on March 02, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
Jeff Sessions recluses himself from any campaign investigation - after Lindsay Graham and several other weak-kneed RINOs parrot the Democratic talking-points, that there *may* be underwear in his sock drawer.  (one excuse is as good as another, when you're not squarely on the side of your Party, right Lindsay?).

Mike Flynn resigns in humiliation, after allegedly contacting his barber, in a secretive phone call, before facing the media... apparently to cover up a migrating part on his hair line... that would easily sink any Republican candidate.  (hey, your hair & public image must be above reproach, right VP Pence?)

I predict Neal Gorsuch will not pass the Senate... he is NOT a replacement of Justice Anthony Scalia - it is reported he is at least 6" taller.... a terrible micro-aggression - "Height Privileged", clearly indicating he would *not* be impartial to short people.  (the Dems are just getting started with Sessions & Flynn - does anyone HONESTLY believe Gorsuch can muster 50 votes???)

Obama Care will be folded into Medicare or some renamed single-payer, government program, and our healthcare will permanently be managed by bureaucrats, unelected & unaccountable Socialist-leaning, big government types.  Forget about health insurance, this is just another TAX to fund political programs, your health is secondary.  Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan already have their health care covered - until they feel the same pain we do - they will do nothing of substance.

Trump is just 'going it alone' with whatever the hell his agenda is suppose to be.   Defense to Democrats.   I can't say "WE" in the context of "Republicans and ME" anymore - they're gutless cowards, disorganized, rudderless, babbling fools - a complete embarrassment.   
Obviously, the Republican Party has adopted a purely defensive position, incapable of formulating anything like Newt Gingrich of 1994.


The TEA movement is over-due for political action.   The Republican Party is folding up the Tent.
That would be giving them credit for the charade they've pulled off. I see it for what it is, harmony with the Marxist agenda, disguised as incompetence.
No, I think the Marxists within the GOP have accomplished exactly what they wanted. They convinced the electorate they were too weak to accomplish anything unless we gave them the Senate, remember that call to arms? "Give us the Senate and we'll stop Commiecare".

So we did, we gave them the senate and they did nothing. So they claimed we need the House to stop Obozo, so we gave them both houses, and still nothing, in fact, they gave the Marxists everything he asked for and more, yes, they fed the pig all he could swallow, even Pelosi commented, "We didn't ask for all that"?

No, this is not a rudderless, babbling fools, a spineless bunch of cowards, they are as bad, if not worse than the Dim party, at least with the Dim party we know their agenda as communists, but when your own party claims one thing, then does the complete opposite with a shit eating grin, you know the enemy is within.

Fact is, Marxists have both party's. They've seized the leadership of the GOP, control the purse strings of the party.
Thing is, they fear Trump, they are scared to death of what he can accomplish, along with outing the enemy within. Yes, he could actually purge the party of the commie McCain's, McConnel's and Ryans and their enablers.
What better way to fulfill your agenda than to let the opposing party do it for you, while you feign incompetence?

We live in interesting times, we literally sit on the precipice of history, and it's up to us to expose the enemy for what it is and steer history to our favor.
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Quote from: Hoofer on March 03, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
We already know Trump is not going to be a strong Constitutional Conservative- but Trump might be all we got....?   Pretty scary!

Are you less terrified, knowing it's not Hildabeast?

Me, I think back on some of the losers on BOTH sides over the last thirty years, and compared to them as President, the "New York City Conservative" Trump seems almost palatable. At least I don't revert to my infancy, thinking of President Hillary Clinton --- waking up screaming every two hours.

quiller

Quote from: walkstall on March 03, 2017, 09:43:37 AM

The media and RINO's spent a year build up and creating Trump.  Now MSM and RINO's will spend 4 to 8 years tearing Trump down.

We have leaned one thing over the last two years.  Trump knows how to play the press.  Now he need to use that on the RINO's also.

Sounds like a separate thread: which RINOS need culling first?

I vote McCain.

supsalemgr

What a difference a year makes. One year ago most of us were on the Cruz train and we felt Trump was a clown and certainly not a conservative. Now, the GOP has taken over the government and Trump is in the WH. Unfortunately, what hasn't changed is GOPe in congress is still not following the desires of the folks who put them in the position of power they enjoy. Now, it appears Trump is our only hope for some conservative actions out of Washington. As I said, what a difference a year makes.
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Hoofer

Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2017, 10:48:39 AM
Are you less terrified, knowing it's not Hildabeast?

Me, I think back on some of the losers on BOTH sides over the last thirty years, and compared to them as President, the "New York City Conservative" Trump seems almost palatable. At least I don't revert to my infancy, thinking of President Hillary Clinton --- waking up screaming every two hours.

I'll reply to both you and Solar by saying, No, it's not "terrified" but, coming to the full realization of two nagging facts.

a.  Trump is not a Constitutional Conservative, sure he's better than Hillary.
b.  The Republicans are LESS Conservative than Donald Trump (now... THAT is scary!)

Solar calls it: "I see it for what it is, harmony with the Marxist agenda, disguised as incompetence." Which looks like it's ... unfortunately, TRUE!   They've got a fresh excuse every hour for not repealing Obamacare, and none of them are nearly as creative as the Dems, "We have to Pass it.. to find out what's IN it."  (You have to think I'm rather stupid to buy that BS, but we could promise Paul Ryan a permenant House seat until 2050, and He'd happily bail out Obamacare annually, regardless!).  We interpret Republican flailing at windmills as comical, but who passed these MASSIVE Obama spending bills ... with barely a fight?

Any hope of Republicans acting like Constitutional Conservatives is fading like a Tail-light Warranty (when the car's tail-lights fade, so does your warranty).  The shocker for -me- .... you mean all we got left is Donald Trump to push a weak Conservative Agenda, 'cause the Republicans can't organize for anything???   

They've already given up Conservatism, screw the Constitution - it's always been about *power*, we should have recognized it when they said, "Give us the House, Senate, etc., so we can ..." - with no intention of relinquishing any authority back to the States.   Republicans have folded on us, and Trump is all we got left to push a watered-down Constitutional Agenda.

I for one... marvel at the depth of organization within the Democratic Party, Rush says the "Democratic bench is weak or non-existent..".  When did that slow them down?  They'll go down in flames, and their agenda rises out of the ashes like a Phoenix - like now, WHY are Republicans on DEFENSE????
With total DISGUST, the Republicans, after years and years of the majority - haven't got a plan, or can't figure out how to articulate it in the media.   Does anyone think Newt Gingrich started with a majority?  And mind you, Bill Clinton was a very popular President at the time.  What's wrong with Republicans...?!?!?

"We live in interesting times, we literally sit on the precipice of history" (Solar) - I picture, having climbed to tall peak, looking all around, seeing nothing but Democrats & suddenly realizing, it's all downhill from here.  Trump arrives with a hot-air balloon, we hop aboard, start to ascend even higher - and Janet Yellen starts shooting holes through the darn thing.  The ONLY WAY this thing is gonna stay afloat ... is when the Republicans jump aboard and add to Trump's hot-air & patch holes (close ranks).

If the Republicans don't get on-board quickly, Trump's agenda is gonna crash... and crash hard...!

Quote from: supsalemgr on March 03, 2017, 11:44:18 AM
What a difference a year makes. One year ago most of us were on the Cruz train and we felt Trump was a clown and certainly not a conservative. Now, the GOP has taken over the government and Trump is in the WH. Unfortunately, what hasn't changed is GOPe in congress is still not following the desires of the folks who put them in the position of power they enjoy. Now, it appears Trump is our only hope for some conservative actions out of Washington. As I said, what a difference a year makes.

Excellent Summary to my long winded rant.  I want to scream, "If you can't get behind Trump, at least get behind the IDEAS you agree with!!!"
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