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Is it over again?

Hers's an example of what I've been saying, and I believe Trump might be taking corrective action - "Get your a$$ on board, already!  If you're not going to fight back, I got no use for you - no matter how great you are at your job!"

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-flashes-anger-sessions-recusal-russia-stories-tense/story?id=45908106

QuoteBefore heading off to his so-called "winter White House" in Palm Beach, Florida, on Friday, President Donald Trump summoned some of his senior staff to the Oval Office and went "ballistic," senior White House sources told ABC News.

The president erupted with anger over the latest slew of news reports connecting Russia with the new administration -- specifically the abrupt decision by Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself from investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign.

Sources said the president felt Sessions' recusal was unnecessary and only served to embolden Trump's political opponents. The attorney general made his announcement Thursday just as Trump returned to Washington from a trip to the U.S.S. Gerald Ford in Virginia for a speech about his agenda as president.

Hours earlier, aboard the ship, the president had told reporters that he had "total" confidence in Sessions and saw no reason why the attorney general should recuse himself.

If you've been a manager, in a competitive business situation, the "leaks" and "plants" from past management can drive you crazy... that's one thing that keeps you from success.   People on your own staff who can't get the message, you know they're really good, you'll stand behind them... but can't seem to *understand* the competitive nature of the situation.   It's a "If I lose - you lose!" - get off your hands and join the fight, we got no extra room for an audience in the board room.

Honestly - after all the dirt flying during the campaign, did anyone think Trump was a Paper Tiger?   We gloated when he 'took it to the MSM' - it's about time!   The GOP needs to get in line behind Trump and start fighting back, there is no "honor" in taking the so-called high-road, while your constitutes get SCREWED at HOME.   I don't *care* if Trump isn't Reagan, he's pledged his honor - .... oh, I get it, the GOP has no guts, no honor, and planned all along to 'go along to get along with the Democrats'.

Sessions seems like an honorable guy... who just might be well past the ability to take the fight to the enemy.
After I stuck my neck out for the guy, and he backs off with hardly a whimper - you're damn right, I'd be PISSED!
This is NOT THE TIME to try and win over Democrats - they're going after heads, while Sessions is trying to make nice!?!?!?
   

Trump needs a staff he can count on, it's gonna get rough, he knows that.  I never thought I'd say the GOP is not worth nor fit for a leader like Donald Trump.   We elected them to DO A JOB and they JOINED the Washington Club....   Folding up the Tent, and scurrying for cover because it might rain.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mike-pence-demands-ap-apologize-for-publishing-refusing-to-take-down-story-showing-his-wifes-email-address/article/2616467

QuoteVice President Mike Pence is demanding the Associated Press apologize for publishing and then refusing to take down a story with the email address of Karen Pence.

"When we requested they take it down, they refused. The @AP owes my wife an apology," Pence tweeted Saturday, along with a copy of a letter to the news outlet from Mark Paoletta, counsel to the vice president.

Question:  Does Mike Pence have it in him for a long fight?  We will see shortly - he's in their crosshairs.  That's how this is playing out, picking them off, with the help of the media, one here, one there - immobilize their agenda, freeze them.

Divide and conquer.  Here's an example of how the Democrats are PLAYING BEN SASSE for a fool..

http://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2017/03/04/sasse-statement-trump-wiretap-claims/

QuoteClaims are one thing, but we need to deal in actual proof. If the president of the United State is to offer up the idea that wiretapping did occur, he should be ready with evidence to back it up. Otherwise, it looks like an attempt to distract from something else.

Politicians in D.C. should take note and model themselves after Ben Sasse.

"We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust, and the President's allegations today demand the thorough and dispassionate attention of serious patriots. A quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health."
Wiretapping is a serious claim. If it occurred, it needs to be dealt with, regardless of political party. If not, alleging such things should result in swift rebuke.

Ben Sasse and the author of this article - who can't seem to open their eyes wide enough to understand what's going on.
"civic trust and health"...?   You've got to win something in Washington if you want my accolades, and it better be against the enemy!
Ben Sasse is a perfect example of a Democrat TOOL - too smart to realize he's been HAD and too stupid to understand the Democrats have always fought dirty.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 05, 2017, 06:39:15 AM

Ben Sasse is a perfect example of a Democrat TOOL - too smart to realize he's been HAD and too stupid to understand the Democrats have always fought dirty.

Or is he? Is it possible he was asked by trump to play a part, as in making the claim, 'if it's true, show us proof?' Then miraculously Trump produces proof and Sasse then demands, "We have no other recourse, than to call for a full blown investigation".

Just tossing ideas out there, but I don't see Sasse purposely walking through shit to help Dims.

Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2017, 06:53:41 AM
Or is he? Is it possible he was asked by trump to play a part, as in making the claim, 'if it's true, show us proof?' Then miraculously Trump produces proof and Sasse then demands, "We have no other recourse, than to call for a full blown investigation".

Just tossing ideas out there, but I don't see Sasse purposely walking through shit to help Dims.

Just the opposite, they knew how he'd respond, and asked him - he could have 'shut up' but when did a Senator ever turn away a microphone (even without any idea what was at stake?).  They wanted someone who would cast serious doubt... someone trusted by TEA and conservatives to raise questions of doubt...  "Hey Ben...  How ya doing!?"  (we just need a sound bite), "Whatta think of this wiretap thing, ya know, Trump is claiming - anything to that...?"  (come'on... sucker, give us something we can work with, spin this one for us....)

He was a useful idiot, commenting on something he knows nothing about, framing his answer perfectly for the MSM to cast doubt and further undermine Trump. 

He could have passed on it.... but no, really SMART people (who are often taken for granted), jump at every chance to prove it.
When are - or what will it take for the GOP to realize this is a full fledged frontal attack by the MSM and the Dims?

Furthermore, does ANYONE expect Ben Sasse to lead the charge for an investigation....?   

Quote from: Hoofer on March 05, 2017, 01:11:25 PM
Just the opposite, they knew how he'd respond, and asked him - he could have 'shut up' but when did a Senator ever turn away a microphone (even without any idea what was at stake?).  They wanted someone who would cast serious doubt... someone trusted by TEA and conservatives to raise questions of doubt...  "Hey Ben...  How ya doing!?"  (we just need a sound bite), "Whatta think of this wiretap thing, ya know, Trump is claiming - anything to that...?"  (come'on... sucker, give us something we can work with, spin this one for us....)

He was a useful idiot, commenting on something he knows nothing about, framing his answer perfectly for the MSM to cast doubt and further undermine Trump. 

He could have passed on it.... but no, really SMART people (who are often taken for granted), jump at every chance to prove it.
When are - or what will it take for the GOP to realize this is a full fledged frontal attack by the MSM and the Dims?

Furthermore, does ANYONE expect Ben Sasse to lead the charge for an investigation....?   

Sasse is young and not prone to "lead foot poisoning" like the old timer leftists in the party. Sure, I could be wrong, but I believe Trump already had his plan of attack laid out, including someone in the GOP making the claim Sasse did See: http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/marxist-wiretap-thread/msg331409/#new

One thing about Trump, he'll tell the GOP to screw themselves and go it alone if necessary.
He's proven he's a winner so I'm expecting a very different outcome, maybe not prison time for any leftists, but as long as the statute of limitations allows, Trump will have the ultimate bargaining chip anytime he needs to play it.

Pssssst... Ben....   Tell us something we don't know, or were you listening to Mark Levin - and just figured it out..?


Nothing like "taking the high-road", and really sticking your neck out, imply the leader of YOUR PARTY is making stuff up.

thanks for posting the full Sasse statement, Solar, if he was sitting across the table from me, and said that - I would have replied, "Who's side are you on, Ben?   Sometimes it's better to either go along with leadership or just shut up!"

Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2017, 01:44:26 PM
Sasse is young and not prone to "lead foot poisoning" like the old timer leftists in the party. Sure, I could be wrong, but I believe Trump already had his plan of attack laid out, including someone in the GOP making the claim Sasse did See: http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/marxist-wiretap-thread/msg331409/#new

One thing about Trump, he'll tell the GOP to screw themselves and go it alone if necessary.
He's proven he's a winner so I'm expecting a very different outcome, maybe not prison time for any leftists, but as long as the statute of limitations allows, Trump will have the ultimate bargaining chip anytime he needs to play it.

I completely agree, Trump will go it alone if necessary - AND - he probably has the goods on the Dems.  Trump knows how to play the media as good as the media can play a sucker like Sasse.   This isn't the business for "nice guys" - and it's disgusting to see year after year go by, Democrats with scandals of every sort... ready to fall like Dominos......  and Republicans still playing DEFENSE....?

Trump is playing "hard ball" with the MSM and the Democrats - we don't have to agree with him 100% of the time, but when the guy is hammering the Dims, why wait?   Get in there and hit 'em!   Chuck Shumer is tripling down on Sessions, Trump and trying to bring in everyone else he can - where is the GOP!?

...still busy, folding up the GOP tent.

Quote from: Hoofer on March 05, 2017, 05:49:28 PM
Pssssst... Ben....   Tell us something we don't know, or were you listening to Mark Levin - and just figured it out..?


Nothing like "taking the high-road", and really sticking your neck out, imply the leader of YOUR PARTY is making stuff up.

thanks for posting the full Sasse statement, Solar, if he was sitting across the table from me, and said that - I would have replied, "Who's side are you on, Ben?   Sometimes it's better to either go along with leadership or just shut up!"

That's why I questioned the Red State piece, it ran with a lot of opinion, and of course I. like you, would say "What the fuck are you saying"?
Which is why it made me wonder if he wasn't baiting the dims early on because he knew ,ore than he was divulging?
Or as you said, being an ignorant fool and stepped out alone? Which just seems weird, why piss off the POTUS of your own party?

QuoteI completely agree, Trump will go it alone if necessary - AND - he probably has the goods on the Dems.  Trump knows how to play the media as good as the media can play a sucker like Sasse.   This isn't the business for "nice guys" - and it's disgusting to see year after year go by, Democrats with scandals of every sort... ready to fall like Dominos......  and Republicans still playing DEFENSE....?

Trump is playing "hard ball" with the MSM and the Democrats - we don't have to agree with him 100% of the time, but when the guy is hammering the Dims, why wait?   Get in there and hit 'em!   Chuck Shumer is tripling down on Sessions, Trump and trying to bring in everyone else he can - where is the GOP!?

...still busy, folding up the GOP tent.

Uggggghhh... the (GOP) gay battalion never got the orders to pull out and join the battle, because we don't want their traitorous kind of help.
For once, I say leave them, let the losers rot, and come midterm, point out how they left Trump to fight on his own.
The constituency won't be happy that once again, they evaded another fight with the Marxists.

Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2017, 06:48:32 PM
That's why I questioned the Red State piece, it ran with a lot of opinion, and of course I. like you, would say "What the fuck are you saying"?
Which is why it made me wonder if he wasn't baiting the dims early on because he knew ,ore than he was divulging?
Or as you said, being an ignorant fool and stepped out alone? Which just seems weird, why piss off the POTUS of your own party?
Uggggghhh... the (GOP) gay battalion never got the orders to pull out and join the battle, because we don't want their traitorous kind of help.
For once, I say leave them, let the losers rot, and come midterm, point out how they left Trump to fight on his own.
The constituency won't be happy that once again, they evaded another fight with the Marxists.

New people must remember states go by the Popular votes not the    Electoral votes for midterm voting.

Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2017, 06:48:32 PM
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For once, I say leave them, let the losers rot, and come midterm, point out how they left Trump to fight on his own.
The constituency won't be happy that once again, they evaded another fight with the Marxists.

Midterm primaries start in less than a year.  TEA associations need to get busy in those states where the GOPe incumbents may be vulnerable.

Quote from: zewazir on March 05, 2017, 07:22:44 PM
Midterm primaries start in less than a year.  TEA associations need to get busy in those states where the GOPe incumbents may be vulnerable.

If you're up for a bit of research and don't mind tackling a few states, I'll sticky a thread for '2018 TEA candidates' for vetting.
Maybe we can head off another McCain style win, where the GOP funded a loser that passed themselves off as TEA, when in fact, they were just another lib plant by the GOP.

Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2017, 08:23:14 PM
If you're up for a bit of research and don't mind tackling a few states, I'll sticky a thread for '2018 TEA candidates' for vetting.
Maybe we can head off another McCain style win, where the GOP funded a loser that passed themselves off as TEA, when in fact, they were just another lib plant by the GOP.

I can try throwing together a general table with names and general conservative ratings, which would give us an idea where we need to target first and/or the most. I figure Senate be our primary focus, and House as time permits?

Which source that rates politicians' conservative record would you recommend we use so we stay consistent?

Quote from: zewazir on March 06, 2017, 08:00:26 AM
I can try throwing together a general table with names and general conservative ratings, which would give us an idea where we need to target first and/or the most. I figure Senate be our primary focus, and House as time permits?

Which source that rates politicians' conservative record would you recommend we use so we stay consistent?

That would be excellent! Unfortunately, TEA candidates more than likely won't have any record beyond opinion pieces to their names, maybe an arrest record for getting high as a young adult, but if you can get the names, we can do the research.

Quote from: Solar on March 06, 2017, 08:06:50 AM
That would be excellent! Unfortunately, TEA candidates more than likely won't have any record beyond opinion pieces to their names, maybe an arrest record for getting high as a young adult, but if you can get the names, we can do the research.

Yeah, that information may be a bit sketchy this early on. Could be pulling air just finding names who have expressed interest in a U.S. Congressional run this early in the game.

This is why I strongly believe that TEA, as a movement, needs to get a bit more organized with communication between associations. You can bet the establishment is ready, not only with their names to start pushing as soon as the time comes to start focusing on the primaries, but with their mud slings primed and ready to fire at any probable names they may need to target.

We have two avenues to regard with respect to each house of CONgress. First is finding acceptable conservatives to run against incumbent RINOs.  Luckily, there will be only 9 incumbent Pubs running for reelection to the Senate: Luther Strange of Alabama, Jeff Flake of Arizona, Roger Wicker of Mississippi, Deb Fischer of Nebraska, Dean Heller of Nevada, Bob Corker of Tennessee, our bud Ted Cruz of Texas, Orrin Hatch of Utah, and John Barrasso of Wyoming.  Start by determining the just how conservative these 9 are, and go from there with plans to either support or replace them in the primaries.

Second avenue for each house, determine the relative vulnerability of Dem seats on the block in 2016 so we can use our resources efficiently in targeting those whom we have the greatest chance of unseating. Again, focus on the Senate first.

The House will be a huge job since all 435 of them are up for reelection. (No wonder one of the main complaints is how congress is way too focused on elections than doing what they are elected to do.)