Rep. Steve Pearce proposes 'virtual' Congress

Started by Solar, May 17, 2017, 05:22:44 AM

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Quote from: walkstall on May 18, 2017, 10:14:42 AM
Who knows even the home town newspaper could become popular again.  With out all the MSM BS.
Excellent point.
There are many upsides and not one single downside.
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I may be the only negative comment here but think of it this way...  You think they're lazy now - Wait till they can go to work in their pajamas...

I was watching Stewart Varney's show this morning and they were discussing the ever-so-cool idea of employees working from home and the corporations who have tried it, and several of the commenters stated that they tried it in their own businesses and it was an unmitigated failure...  If it fails in the hard working business world, just imagine the roaring success it will be in the real world of Washington politics... 

And then there's the question of internet security, which our nation's "leaders" apparently have not a fingernail's hold on...  Remember that almost half of Congress is made of Democrats...  Remember how successful they were at keeping their Party server secure in the last election?  Do you REAAALLLLY want these bums holding so-called closed door classified intelligence briefings over the web from home-based computers?

Do you really want to subject the population of the House of Reps to the video image of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi in their nighties and curlers?   :blink:    :scared:
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Quote from: lazarus on May 19, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
I may be the only negative comment here but think of it this way...  You think they're lazy now - Wait till they can go to work in their pajamas...

I was watching Stewart Varney's show this morning and they were discussing the ever-so-cool idea of employees working from home and the corporations who have tried it, and several of the commenters stated that they tried it in their own businesses and it was an unmitigated failure...  If it fails in the hard working business world, just imagine the roaring success it will be in the real world of Washington politics... 

And then there's the question of internet security, which our nation's "leaders" apparently have not a fingernail's hold on...  Remember that almost half of Congress is made of Democrats...  Remember how successful they were at keeping their Party server secure in the last election?  Do you REAAALLLLY want these bums holding so-called closed door classified intelligence briefings over the web from home-based computers?

Do you really want to subject the population of the House of Reps to the video image of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi in their nighties and curlers?   :blink:    :scared:
No one said anything about working from "home", rather their home districts, which each and every one of them has an office, as well as a State Capitol from which to work.
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Quote from: lazarus on May 19, 2017, 09:06:28 AM
I may be the only negative comment here ...

No ... you aren't the only one to offer negative comments. You should read the whole thread ... there were other opposing viewpoints in addition to yours.

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Quote from: topside on May 18, 2017, 04:24:45 AM
It's not a democracy, as you pointed out to me months ago. We elect officials and they are to govern despite what popular opinion is. The only power the constituents really have is their vote. Once in, it seems, Congressmen attempt to show they are looking out for the constituents and work their deals in the background. And Congress acts as a group ... one example are the current Dim lemming phenomena.


Yes - the business metaphors are weak but used in an exploratory manner - what ideas have we seen in practice that could change things for the better. That's actually what this thread is about to a degree. And the separation of powers is understood. But there is overlap ... e.g., POTUS has veto power which means almost final authority on a bill unless Congress can get 2/3 majority. But he doesn't dictate how they get paid ... and that's out-of-bounds with the balance of power. So the CEO isn't POTUS - there is no one to "manage" Congress. It's by design ... right ... because if you put someone over Congress then you wash out the construct for balance of ideas in the House and Senate.
Of course there is some overlap, but that was to insure the three branches didn't come to a logjam everytime they interacted.

QuoteSo your point about having the constituents as CEO is an excellent approach but has no more substance than my business ideas ... but could be adjusted. The problem is that the "constituents" only have control over votes and are too amorphous to manage a congressman.
How many businesses can you name where every employee in the business is the boss?
Our Rep is our employee, not a CEO oof anything, heRepresents our interests.

QuoteBut states could select councils to manage their congressman ... and there could be specific reporting to the constituents on the congressman's function that published to the constituents with feedback via internet on occasion.
That would be unconstitutional!
QuoteLot's of ways to effectively manage in that structure. But the method of pay and benefits would need to be controlled by the managing council or the congressman will just continue to play the council and constituents. They need a stick.
We have one, it's called Recall.

QuoteI actually think Congress has a LOT of work to do right now. If they were functional and not beholden to others, 3 months probably wouldn't be enough right now and special sessions would be a nuisance to getting things through. But in most years, a 3 months a year would seem to suffice with special sessions as needed. I've not known they ever did it that way ... good info! But in the current state of our dysfunctional congress, they may as well go home and save us the funds because they aren't showing an ability to do  anything productive at this point. Such a shame since the Pubs have the helm - could be doing a lot of good right now.
Like what? Like undoing the damage they do on a daily basis? Wouldn't it be better if we limited their time so as to restrict their ability to screw us over?

That's what bothers me so much about all this. I had to suck it up under BO's bullshit for eight long years as we were plundered and what we paid was used for Marxist purposes - so, so, depressing. Then I thought we'd get buried under HilLIARy to continue on our path to demise. Then, miraculously, Trump won and there was some hope of turning in a better direction. But, so far, the Dim and MSM attacks and weaknesses in the Pub party have taken the winds out of the sails. I'm becoming despondent as there seems no hope for moving in the right direction for our failing Republic.
I see it this way. When your parents, or a teacher for that matter wanted to bring peace, they generally separated the trouble makers.
Congress has provben it makes  more trouble for the nation than it does good.
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Quote from: Solar on May 19, 2017, 09:43:42 AM
No one said anything about working from "home", rather their home districts, which each and every one of them has an office, as well as a State Capitol from which to work.
Personally, I don't see congress giving up the cameras that follow their every move just so they can work harder, those cameras make reelection easier. 

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Quote from: s3779m on May 19, 2017, 12:33:18 PM
Personally, I don't see congress giving up the cameras that follow their every move just so they can work harder, those cameras make reelection easier for a Leftist Establishment.
Finished it for ya. :wink:
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