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Remember When?
« on: August 25, 2017, 07:34:11 AM »
You didn't lock your doors, left you keys in the c ar, let the kids take off for the entire day (by themselves. Shudder)...
What happened, seriously, was it media glorifying ever violent story, was is a lack of law enforcement, or both?
Or is society really so depraved today, that we expect someone to violate our personal sanctuaries?

Honestly, it's akin to the so called race issue, nothing has changed, the only change is a media myopically focusing on it to further the Marxist plan to divide the nation.
I think the only thing to change, is trust of our fellow man.

Like Reagan said, "Trust, but verify", so let's build a fuckin Southern Wall so we can trust South Americans for the good and decent neighbors they've always been.
A wall is nothing more than a lock on the front door.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 08:39:10 AM »
You didn't lock your doors, left you keys in the c ar, let the kids take off for the entire day (by themselves. Shudder)...
What happened, seriously, was it media glorifying ever violent story, was is a lack of law enforcement, or both?
Or is society really so depraved today, that we expect someone to violate our personal sanctuaries?

Honestly, it's akin to the so called race issue, nothing has changed, the only change is a media myopically focusing on it to further the Marxist plan to divide the nation.
I think the only thing to change, is trust of our fellow man.

Like Reagan said, "Trust, but verify", so let's build a fuckin Southern Wall so we can trust South Americans for the good and decent neighbors they've always been.
A wall is nothing more than a lock on the front door.

Pat Buchanan has an interesting article, "What still unites us?" - raising the question, is there anything left to unite us as a nation?
http://www.wnd.com/2017/08/what-still-unites-us/
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Behind the Trumpian slogan “America First” lay a conviction that, with the Cold War over and the real ideological nation, the USSR, shattered into pieces along ethnic lines, it was time for America to come home.

Contra the neocons, traditionalists argued that, while America was uniquely great, the nation was united by faith, culture, language, history, heroes, holidays, mores, manners, customs and traditions. A common feature of Americans, black and white, was pride in belonging to a people that had achieved so much.

The insight attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville – “America is great because she is good, and if America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great” – was a belief shared by almost all.


So... what is it that would Make America Great Again?   a sure sign of trust is no needing to lock your door, and leaving the keys to the car in the ignition.   But, I think that comes later.   Right now is the time to secure the border, assimilate the legal immigrants, and return to a spiritual and moral foundation that once brought us together.   Getting rid of the anarchists, communists, marxists & socialists, along with the other alphabet names of anti-American groups wouldn't hurt.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 10:23:38 AM »
Unlocked doors, key's left in cars and kids playing anywhere and everywhere without fear of being kidnapped, run over, molested, robbed, beaten, run over by a drunk driver comes down to one thing:   CRIME

Most of the crime in the USA is committed by Foreign Nationals and Minorities. None wants to call it out for fear of being labled with the all damning mark of Caine the much dreaded "RACIST" tag. As an aside, much crime goes UNREPORTED, so actual statistics in many catagories are rather meaningless.

Having spent all of my adult life in either Law Enforcement or Security I can tell you one thing is responsible;

DRUGS.

Simply put, most drugs are smuggled into this country by an elaborate network of foreign national criminal syndicates and distributed mainly in our inner cities targeting said minorities and then spread to the adjoining suburbs as criminal networks branch out. Interesting to note that there seems to be surging opioid epidemics in most urban areas and city officials are in a dither as to what to do about it.

It doesn't take a sherlock Holmes to figure out the correlation between open borders and increased drug trafficking from source countries where the Poppy (and cocaine) grow.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2017, 07:15:49 AM »
Unlocked doors, key's left in cars and kids playing anywhere and everywhere without fear of being kidnapped, run over, molested, robbed, beaten, run over by a drunk driver comes down to one thing:   CRIME

Most of the crime in the USA is committed by Foreign Nationals and Minorities. None wants to call it out for fear of being labled with the all damning mark of Caine the much dreaded "RACIST" tag. As an aside, much crime goes UNREPORTED, so actual statistics in many catagories are rather meaningless.

Having spent all of my adult life in either Law Enforcement or Security I can tell you one thing is responsible;

DRUGS.

Simply put, most drugs are smuggled into this country by an elaborate network of foreign national criminal syndicates and distributed mainly in our inner cities targeting said minorities and then spread to the adjoining suburbs as criminal networks branch out. Interesting to note that there seems to be surging opioid epidemics in most urban areas and city officials are in a dither as to what to do about it.

It doesn't take a sherlock Holmes to figure out the correlation between open borders and increased drug trafficking from source countries where the Poppy (and cocaine) grow.

Then we have the Libertarians who say legalize drugs and the problem goes away, plus you can TAX it too!!!

After these drugs "rewire the brain" so there is no conscience, guilt or compunction to obey the law, what then with a nation of lawless, mind drugged idiots?

Sometimes, the ISIS method of enforcing morality, almost makes more sense than Ron & Rand Paul - and aren't they Doctors???  :confused:
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2017, 07:36:40 AM »
Then we have the Libertarians who say legalize drugs and the problem goes away, plus you can TAX it too!!!

After these drugs "rewire the brain" so there is no conscience, guilt or compunction to obey the law, what then with a nation of lawless, mind drugged idiots?

Sometimes, the ISIS method of enforcing morality, almost makes more sense than Ron & Rand Paul - and aren't they Doctors???  :confused:
People like to think of themselves as "enlightened and evolved" but the truth is, those who came before us, were just as smart, if not more so, than today's average dolt on the street, and even back then, they had morality laws for a reason, to sustain a cohesive and functioning society.
In truth,m that's all law is, a societal need to control behavior of the masses.
It proves the very existence and intrusion of Marxism into our very culture, For Marxism can't exist under God's law, which is why the first thing they did, was to fool the children, confuse them into believing in nothing at all.

I don't want to derail this into a religion thread, but the absence of faith is the breeding ground for evil to take hold, as in Marxism.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2017, 06:59:10 AM »
People like to think of themselves as "enlightened and evolved" but the truth is, those who came before us, were just as smart, if not more so, than today's average dolt on the street, and even back then, they had morality laws for a reason, to sustain a cohesive and functioning society.
In truth,m that's all law is, a societal need to control behavior of the masses.
It proves the very existence and intrusion of Marxism into our very culture, For Marxism can't exist under God's law, which is why the first thing they did, was to fool the children, confuse them into believing in nothing at all.

I don't want to derail this into a religion thread, but the absence of faith is the breeding ground for evil to take hold, as in Marxism.
Freedom be damned along with your religion!
Libs just can't make the connection....

TV has done more to dumb down society than enlighten it... speaking of controlling the masses!
How as the Constitution and all the writings of the founding fathers so easily understood 200 years ago, yet, today... with all the MSM help, it takes a dictionary to get the basic grasp of what's written, and liberals *still* can't figure out the simplest of text?

Remember when people still read & took the time to understand?   Nope, not in my lifetime.  It's hard to find an individual who can read and write past a 6th grade level (myself included).
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2017, 07:58:54 AM »
TV has done more to dumb down society than enlighten it... speaking of controlling the masses!
How as the Constitution and all the writings of the founding fathers so easily understood 200 years ago, yet, today... with all the MSM help, it takes a dictionary to get the basic grasp of what's written, and liberals *still* can't figure out the simplest of text?

Remember when people still read & took the time to understand?   Nope, not in my lifetime.  It's hard to find an individual who can read and write past a 6th grade level (myself included).
So true. Media and school share a common goal, they parrot a message of group think.
I remember a teacher telling me, it doesn't matter if I learn a damn thing in school, what's important, it that you leave sharing the same ideals as everyone else, it makes for a cohesive society.
He was spot on, but that was the early 60s, and today the goal of schooling/college remains the same, only now the message is "Marxism Good, Capitalism Evil".
The media echoes the very same message, affirming what the mush minds heard in school. No conspiracy here, McCarthy was Fuckin Right, and the gop"E sold him out and the rest is history.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2017, 12:47:05 PM »
TV has done more to dumb down society than enlighten it... speaking of controlling the masses!
How as the Constitution and all the writings of the founding fathers so easily understood 200 years ago, yet, today... with all the MSM help, it takes a dictionary to get the basic grasp of what's written, and liberals *still* can't figure out the simplest of text?

Remember when people still read & took the time to understand?   Nope, not in my lifetime.  It's hard to find an individual who can read and write past a 6th grade level (myself included).
The constitution is taught today that it is a 'living" constitution and needs to be applied as it contains to today. In other words, what ever makes the liberals get their way is how it should apply.

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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2017, 01:29:49 PM »
Then we have the Libertarians who say legalize drugs and the problem goes away, plus you can TAX it too!!!

After these drugs "rewire the brain" so there is no conscience, guilt or compunction to obey the law, what then with a nation of lawless, mind drugged idiots?

Sometimes, the ISIS method of enforcing morality, almost makes more sense than Ron & Rand Paul - and aren't they Doctors???  :confused:

I admit I have some sympathy for this idea. It would eliminate the market for most of organized crime and leave us with only the druggie issue which we have anyway.

The main problem I see with it is this absurd notion people have that legal = good/moral. With proper social pressure you could hypothetically stave that off. It is definitely not a solution but it does seem a step in the right direction.

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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2017, 02:04:18 PM »
I admit I have some sympathy for this idea. It would eliminate the market for most of organized crime and leave us with only the druggie issue which we have anyway.

The main problem I see with it is this absurd notion people have that legal = good/moral. With proper social pressure you could hypothetically stave that off. It is definitely not a solution but it does seem a step in the right direction.
  Take a look at the underground selling of plain cigarettes in New York, taxes made it profitable to sell them illegally.. Problem with the government in charge of anything will be all the taxes that will be put on the drugs, leaving the door wide open for the cartel to undercut the government price. Then there is the problem with the wide range of drugs. I can not see crack or meth becoming legal nor should it be, there are several drugs that do so much harm that it is not an absurd notion that they are illegal, but the cartel will continue to sell it and there will be enough people willing to buy it. Legalizing a few recreational drugs will not put the cartel out of business.

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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2017, 02:22:48 PM »
  Take a look at the underground selling of plain cigarettes in New York, taxes made it profitable to sell them illegally.. Problem with the government in charge of anything will be all the taxes that will be put on the drugs, leaving the door wide open for the cartel to undercut the government price. Then there is the problem with the wide range of drugs. I can not see crack or meth becoming legal nor should it be, there are several drugs that do so much harm that it is not an absurd notion that they are illegal, but the cartel will continue to sell it and there will be enough people willing to buy it. Legalizing a few recreational drugs will not put the cartel out of business.

Correct, the government would have to treat it as any other product, or at least in a similar way to alcohol, and it would have to apply to all drugs.

Know that I am not talking political feasibility here. With these Republicans in charge absolutely nothing is politically feasible. Not a wall, not a fence, not anything.

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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2017, 04:10:26 PM »
  Take a look at the underground selling of plain cigarettes in New York, taxes made it profitable to sell them illegally.. Problem with the government in charge of anything will be all the taxes that will be put on the drugs, leaving the door wide open for the cartel to undercut the government price. Then there is the problem with the wide range of drugs. I can not see crack or meth becoming legal nor should it be, there are several drugs that do so much harm that it is not an absurd notion that they are illegal, but the cartel will continue to sell it and there will be enough people willing to buy it. Legalizing a few recreational drugs will not put the cartel out of business.
Yeah, which goes full circle in the LIBertarian argument of getting govt out of personal lives.
My belief is that govt is like an overprotective parent, you simply can't protect the child from their own stupidity unless they first get hurt and figure it out for themselves.

This isn't a lack of law problem, this is a cultural issue, one where shame is removed from the equation, shaming someone for bad behavior, such as dressing like the opposite sex, bestiality etc, all of these are now PC protected as 'Just another lifestyle" bull shit.
No, if we're going to make any progress, it starts with us as individuals, rejecting bad behavior when it happens, not going to movies the left produces glorifying bad behavior, speaking up when it happens in front of us.

But that's just me, I always speak my mind in opposition to all anti American culture.
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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2017, 01:42:57 PM »
I admit I have some sympathy for this idea. It would eliminate the market for most of organized crime and leave us with only the druggie issue which we have anyway.

The main problem I see with it is this absurd notion people have that legal = good/moral. With proper social pressure you could hypothetically stave that off. It is definitely not a solution but it does seem a step in the right direction.

I agree for the most part.  I have no problem with people becoming druggies and killing themselves.  If someone is a druggie where they can't function in our society and put others at risk, like driving impaired, then I encourage their demise.  I'm not being morbid about it, but it's a very black and white issue to me where I spare no emotion or care in the world.  I can't get upset over someone's death if they put themselves in harm's way and if they are a drain, then the best thing is for them to be skimmed from the gene pool like a floating turd.  When someone is standing over an overpass and threatening to jump, I could care less about how they got themselves to that point or what's going on in their lives.  I care about them stopping the traffic and screwing up my day and wish they would just jump so they can be hosed off the interstate and we can get on our way.

For the government, they shouldn't "legalize" anything.  They should just stay out of it.  Meanwhile we should combat drugs coming into our borders.  We don't have coca or poppy fields (that I know of -- I'm sure someone may know better and correct me) so we at least work to reduce as much of that as we can.  We have plenty of meth labs to crack down on. That, combined with people killing themselves seems to be logical for me.

The area I have a hard time nailing down is with kids.  How can we protect kids yet allow people to have their freedom to kill themselves?  Government subsidies also contribute to the problem, giving drug users a means to continue their habit.  Removing welfare starves the demand.

I don't have the perfect solution, and over time I have "evolved" my position on this topic, learning from people like Billy who have the experience in the field with this stuff.  I do know my solution, or whatever solution is chosen, will have casualties in some form or another.  I will always err on the side of personal freedom first, where one is free to put whatever they want into their body, and work from there.  I also want adult person A to have to freedom to tell adult person B "I have some stuff that is going to mess you up! It will cost you $20".

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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2017, 01:48:03 PM »
Yeah, which goes full circle in the LIBertarian argument of getting govt out of personal lives.
My belief is that govt is like an overprotective parent, you simply can't protect the child from their own stupidity unless they first get hurt and figure it out for themselves.

This isn't a lack of law problem, this is a cultural issue, one where shame is removed from the equation, shaming someone for bad behavior, such as dressing like the opposite sex, bestiality etc, all of these are now PC protected as 'Just another lifestyle" bull shit.
No, if we're going to make any progress, it starts with us as individuals, rejecting bad behavior when it happens, not going to movies the left produces glorifying bad behavior, speaking up when it happens in front of us.

But that's just me, I always speak my mind in opposition to all anti American culture.

Exactly.  I found out one of my good friends is now a heroin addict (which seems to be a big problem right now).  I told him I just can't hang around him any longer and have been avoiding his calls.  He knows I have no judgement of him doing that, but I do have judgement that he is ruining his life, upsetting others, and just acting like an idiot.  If I know you're on drugs, then you aren't in control because somehow I know about it.  If you're very productive, functioning member of society and completely have your shit together and one day you say "I've been a heroin addict for about 30 years", I really wouldn't care.  However, 99.99999999999999% of the time that's not the case.

In the case of my friend, his perception of things just got odd and would obsess about stuff like someone paying him back $5 bucks and stuff like that.

I guess to say another way, I care more about you behave and not what you put in your body.

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Re: Remember When?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2017, 02:05:57 PM »
Exactly.  I found out one of my good friends is now a heroin addict (which seems to be a big problem right now).  I told him I just can't hang around him any longer and have been avoiding his calls.  He knows I have no judgement of him doing that, but I do have judgement that he is ruining his life, upsetting others, and just acting like an idiot.  If I know you're on drugs, then you aren't in control because somehow I know about it.  If you're very productive, functioning member of society and completely have your shit together and one day you say "I've been a heroin addict for about 30 years", I really wouldn't care.  However, 99.99999999999999% of the time that's not the case.

In the case of my friend, his perception of things just got odd and would obsess about stuff like someone paying him back $5 bucks and stuff like that.

I guess to say another way, I care more about you behave and not what you put in your body.
Couldn't agree more. I have no issue with drugs per-say, but like you said, when I can see they have a problem, I too draw the line and dump them, because we all know what kind of people they're associating with.
My late brother was into heroin, things started missing from my parent's house, and the scum he hung around with made OWS look like a bible group.
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