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Red Fag Laws
« on: September 10, 2019, 07:31:49 AM »
Yeah, I know we already have a thread running on this, but I wanted to address what this really means. Thought Crimes!
That's Right, all someone has to do is place a hit call on you to authorities, "ANONYMOUSLY", and by law they'll be forced to follow up. Think about that, if someone has a vendetta on you, they can make your life miserable.
This is "Guilt Without Trial", the cops come in, seize your weapons and it's up to you to prove your innocence. There is no Fourth Amendment, Innocent until Proven Guilty.

Congress comes back in session today and I wanted to make sure everyone understands the consequences of what this means for our Nation and how the left is trying to kill our Bill of Rights.
Yes, I know everyone here knows this, but many of our readers do not.
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 07:35:08 AM »
Yeah, I know we already have a thread running on this, but I wanted to address what this really means. Thought Crimes!
That's Right, all someone has to do is place a hit call on you to authorities, "ANONYMOUSLY", and by law they'll be forced to follow up. Think about that, if someone has a vendetta on you, they can make your life miserable.
This is "Guilt Without Trial", the cops come in, seize your weapons and it's up to you to prove your innocence. There is no Fourth Amendment, Innocent until Proven Guilty.

Congress comes back in session today and I wanted to make sure everyone understands the consequences of what this means for our Nation and how the left is trying to kill our Bill of Rights.
Yes, I know everyone here knows this, but many of our readers do not.

Thanks for outlining the bottom line.
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 10:04:09 AM »
Thanks for outlining the bottom line.
Yeah, the other thread quickly derailed and this issue is too important to ignore, so I wanted a thread where we could discuss it in-depth.
Though, I do think Trump is on our side, or rather the side of our Founders, so we probably have nothing to worry about? :blink:
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 11:04:27 AM »
Red flag laws are very dangerous to the peoples freedoms. As all of have seen the question is what next? It really is sad to see that so many are willing to just roll over and take it. What's that old saying?
Those that give up liberty for security will have or deserve neither.

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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2019, 11:42:58 AM »
Red flag laws are very dangerous to the peoples freedoms. As all of have seen the question is what next? It really is sad to see that so many are willing to just roll over and take it. What's that old saying?
Those that give up liberty for security will have or deserve neither.
Yes, it's sad that we as a Nation has allowed our education system completely bastardize the meaning of our Founding Documents, where kids are completely ignorant of their Rights.
In our day to even entertain such idiocy would have been laughed off the podium. Now we have kids of voting age willing to throw their Freedoms away because they "Feel" it will make things better.
What's really sad though? These kids don't see that Govt is the enemy of the people, even our Founders despised the idea of govt which is why they designed it in an adversarial manner, where no entity held the power. A Republic.
Which brings us to today, where we see Congress debating over the Bill of Rights, an issue they are completely prohibited from doing as a govt entity.
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2019, 12:50:14 PM »
You KNOW the first time someone on the right says something about fighting the Left, the ProgTards are going to accuse them of planning a massacre and come for their weapons. :mad:
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2019, 03:25:58 PM »
You KNOW the first time someone on the right says something about fighting the Left, the ProgTards are going to accuse them of planning a massacre and come for their weapons. :mad:
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Can you say "Suicide"? Taking weapons is the easiest way to get cops killed.
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Re: Red Flag Laws
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2019, 07:09:38 PM »
Conservative Activists Prepared to Fight Bipartisan Washington Push for Federal Red Flag Law

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke is renewing calls for a “red flag” law as a Washington Post–ABC News poll released Sept. 9 reports that “86 percent” of Americans are in favor of these laws. Red flag laws allow law enforcement to disarm citizens based on anonymous reports regarding their perceived mental health or danger to society.

According to activists on the ground, especially in red states where conservatives feel targeted by federal gun confiscation designs, that figure is laughable.

“The mainstream media is altering the perception of gun violence,” South Carolina state Rep. Stewart Jones told The Epoch Times.

“In South Carolina, legislators are standing up for constituents. We’re not going to stand by and allow the further erosion of our Constitution,” he said.

In South Carolina, Jones was among 39 state legislators in the state House and Senate who sent a letter to President Donald Trump urging the president to reject the “red flag” push.

“According to the National Alliance on Mental Health, 1 in 5 Americans suffers from a mental health issue in a given year. Absent the institutionalization of disturbed individuals, the person presenting actual threats to society will remain a threat after their firearms are removed. These individuals will still have access to vehicles, knives or countless other lethal items to commit mass murder,” the letter states.

“In states like Maryland, Oregon, and California that have enacted these ‘red flag’ laws, the individuals subject to ’emergency protection orders’ are effectively guilty until proven innocent,” the letter states. “This flips due process on its head. ‘Red flag’ laws erode the very cornerstones of our country, the right to keep and bear arms and due process. They also put law enforcement and citizens in adverse, unnecessary circumstances that will lead to more instances of police brutality and tragic death.

“During your candidacy for President, the former administration used the F.B.I. and F.I.S.A. courts against you. We are urging you not to give the federal government any more power to bypass our Constitution.

“Furthermore, we the undersigned urge you to remember your oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, which expressly prohibits taking the inherent human rights of Americans without prior due process.”

The battle is heating up in other states, as evidenced by competing bills in the Oklahoma state legislature. One bill would impose a red flag law in the Sooner State, while another would prevent Oklahoma officials from recognizing the authority of any federal red flag law.

“The bill also has a felony provision for any law enforcement officer that were to try to implement a federal red flag law here in the state of Oklahoma,” said state Sen. Nathan Dahm, referring to his anti-red flag bill.

Kansas Senate candidate Kris Kobach, a close confidant of the president, recently offered sharp criticism for red flag laws in an interview with The Epoch Times, stating that “red flag laws that have been passed at the state level deny due process in multiple ways to the targets of individual gun confiscation complaints.”

“The standard of proof is very low. They have a hearing where they seize the person’s guns right away without [the person] even being told. The standard for disarming the individual is very low; it’s not a beyond reasonable doubt standard,” he said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/conservative-activists-prepared-to-fight-bipartisan-washington-push-for-federal-red-flag-law_3075052.html
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