Re: Hi I'm The Dude

Started by Solar, December 15, 2012, 06:15:59 AM

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Solar

Quote from: Shooterman on December 16, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
The Israelis are as fully capable of making a glass parking lot out of Iran, as we are. Are the Iranians so bumfokk crazy as to believe otherwise?
I assume you have an actual point?
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Quote from: Darth Fife on December 16, 2012, 04:12:38 PM
Yes... As a matter of fact, they are!

You'll never go broke betting on the craziness of anyone who believes his/her god want's him/her to kill people!

What in their past history says they are crazy in this regard? Who have they invaded?

A number of years ago, India and Pakistan, in their continuing border dispute, both acquired nukes. Supposedly World War III was about to happen if they did. How has that worked out? Now the Pakis are an unstable lot, but so far they haven't acting stupidly.

Iran, short of us or the Israelis stepping up with a preemptive strike is going to get nukes. We can not afford another fokk up war in the Middle East like we're still trying to get out of.

My thoughts are what we do today may, and most probably will, have repercussions for our grand children and even farther down the line.
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Darth Fife

You are aware that in the name of Islam, Muslims conquered all of North Africa and part of Spain, aren't you? Their Empire stretched from the Straights of Gibraltar to the Indian Ocean.

I think it was sometime during the 1930 that the Jews learned that if someone with polical power says he wants to kill you and everyone like you, you'd best take him at his word.

Now, with that said, I don't think we need to get involved - this isn't our picnic.  I have little doubt that the Israelis can take care of themselves quite handily. 

Shooterman

Quote from: Darth Fife on December 16, 2012, 04:49:12 PM
You are aware that in the name of Islam, Muslims conquered all of North Africa and part of Spain, aren't you? Their Empire stretched from the Straights of Gibraltar to the Indian Ocean.

I think it was sometime during the 1930 that the Jews learned that if someone with polical power says he wants to kill you and everyone like you, you'd best take him at his word.

Now, with that said, I don't think we need to get involved - this isn't our picnic.  I have little doubt that the Israelis can take care of themselves quite handily.

Bingo- my point
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a777pilot

QuoteNow, with that said, I don't think we need to get involved - this isn't our picnic.  I have little doubt that the Israelis can take care of themselves quite handily. 

But the point is....it is our "picnic".  We are our brother's keeper.  It is our right and duty to protect free democratic peoples where ever and who ever they may be.

Besides that, Israel, is completely dependent on the USA for its survival.
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Shooterman

Quote from: a777pilot on December 16, 2012, 06:55:10 PM
But the point is....it is our "picnic".  We are our brother's keeper.  It is our right and duty to protect free democratic peoples where ever and who ever they may be.

Would you mind showing us that in the Constitution?

Secondly, we have been at the point for a long time that we can not afford it any longer.

Thirdly, Israel is a wealthy nation, and we should not be borrowing money from China to support them or anyone else.

QuoteBesides that, Israel, is completely dependent on the USA for its survival.

That is a matter of opinion.
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Yawn

QuoteThirdly, Israel is a wealthy nation, and we should not be borrowing money from China to support them or anyone else.

Israel is unique among the nations that receive our foreign aid.  They alone use most of that money to purchase defensive weapons from us, so it all comes back to us.

NO OTHER NATION DOES THAT.

They are the LAST nation I would stop supporting, yet for you Paulites, they would be the first, and seemingly the only nation that you ever mention when it comes to foreign aid.

Yet none of you bitch about aid to Egypt. Or any other nation that is HOSTILE to us and receives money--including the Palestinians.  "We" give them money to "live in peace."  Since they don't do that, why is your focus only on Israel???  I know the answer, but can you come to grips with that truth?

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Quote from: Yawn on December 17, 2012, 02:06:18 AM
Israel is unique among the nations that receive our foreign aid.  They alone use most of that money to purchase defensive weapons from us, so it all comes back to us.

NO OTHER NATION DOES THAT.

They are the LAST nation I would stop supporting, yet for you Paulites, they would be the first, and seemingly the only nation that you ever mention when it comes to foreign aid.

Yet none of you bitch about aid to Egypt. Or any other nation that is HOSTILE to us and receives money--including the Palestinians.  "We" give them money to "live in peace."  Since they don't do that, why is your focus only on Israel???  I know the answer, but can you come to grips with that truth?

Agree completely.  Also the previous inference of a moral equivalency between Iran and Israel is total BS.  Did Israel ever threaten to wipe Iran off the face of the map? Does Israel supply weapons to terrorist groups?  There is anti-Semitism that some of the Paulites and some of the left have in common.

CubaLibre

Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
I'm glad you think so, it was by design. It was a planned effort to bring the greatest posters on the web together, a place where they wouldn't have to deal with kids, or the BS that entails.
It's also why I booted that one idiot lib roboposter, (can't remember his name) he never made that much of an impression, he'd just post leftist talking points and refuse to back them up.
Then when challenged, would complain unfairness or that so and so never gets challenged.

It's crap like that, that has a very negative effect on a quality forum. If you've ever looked at our stats, we are the go to forum for facts, half million views per month.
That means that people are coming here for real arguments supporting their position and returning to facebook or some lib forum to do battle, we are the ammo bringerTM, so to speak.  :cool:
Which one?  :tounge:

Darth Fife

Quote from: a777pilot on December 16, 2012, 06:55:10 PM
But the point is....it is our "picnic".  We are our brother's keeper.  It is our right and duty to protect free democratic peoples where ever and who ever they may be.

Besides that, Israel, is completely dependent on the USA for its survival.

Tell that to the survivors of the U.S.S. Liberty...


Shooterman

Quote from: Yawn on December 17, 2012, 02:06:18 AM
Israel is unique among the nations that receive our foreign aid.  They alone use most of that money to purchase defensive weapons from us, so it all comes back to us.

NO OTHER NATION DOES THAT.

They are the LAST nation I would stop supporting, yet for you Paulites, they would be the first, and seemingly the only nation that you ever mention when it comes to foreign aid.

Yet none of you bitch about aid to Egypt. Or any other nation that is HOSTILE to us and receives money--including the Palestinians.  "We" give them money to "live in peace."  Since they don't do that, why is your focus only on Israel???  I know the answer, but can you come to grips with that truth?

Why not inform me of what your perception ( and that is all it amounts to ) of what that truth really is. You know absolutely nothing about me and what I believe. It is unconstitutional and immoral to tax Americans and/or to borrow money to support any and all swinging dick nations.

The amazing thing is those like you will tell others how patriotic they are or how conservative ( usually a true conservative ) and yet couch your arguments not on constitutional principles but on an emotional level. When asked to justify it constitutionally, a tirade is generally forthcoming about Paulites, and/or what a great ally Israel is ( let the fiscal shit hit the fan and see how great they are ) and/or how Israel is 'The Chosen People', and and/or some other claptrap. Cut them all off, as has been my belief for a long time, long before Ron Paul ever came upon the scene. We can no longer afford foreign aid to anyone. The days of empire have passed us by.

Take this to the bank; the days of wine and roses, and bread and circuses are over- the days of fiscal austerity, whether voluntarily or by force of circumstances, are here.

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Solar

Quote from: CubaLibre on December 17, 2012, 05:19:28 AM
Which one?  :tounge:
I think it was Scifiman, he refused to back up his BS with actual facts, and would constantly obfuscate, and claim he answered the question.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when it's posted to appear as fact, it has to be backed up when called on it.
Lib or Con, everyone knows the rules...

Sorry, I used the moment to step upon the soap box since we have another surge of new members.
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Quote from: Darth Fife on December 17, 2012, 06:05:42 AM
Tell that to the survivors of the U.S.S. Liberty...

You have stepped in it now, Darth.
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Shooterman

Quote from: USAPatriot on December 17, 2012, 02:37:51 AM
Agree completely.  Also the previous inference of a moral equivalency between Iran and Israel is total BS.  Did Israel ever threaten to wipe Iran off the face of the map? Does Israel supply weapons to terrorist groups?  There is anti-Semitism that some of the Paulites and some of the left have in common.

Oh, Here we go with the anti-Semitic nonsense again.
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Shooterman

Quote from: Yawn on December 17, 2012, 02:06:18 AM
Israel is unique among the nations that receive our foreign aid.  They alone use most of that money to purchase defensive weapons from us, so it all comes back to us.

NO OTHER NATION DOES THAT.

Oh, that is wonderful, eh?

I steal 100 dollars ( taxes are theft ) from my neighbor, ( American taxpayers ) then I tell Yawn ( Israel ) I have a widget ( military supplies ) to sell him for 100 dollars. Yawn ( Israel ) says I don't have 100 dollars. I hand him ( Israel ) the 100 dollars I stole from my neighbor ( taxpayers ) and say here, now you can buy my widget. ( military equipment ) The person making the widget has his/her money, I have world's of nice sentiment from fellow thieves, and the taxpayer gets shit.

Is that about what you had in mind?

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