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TowardLiberty

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From that lovable polymath, David Gordon.

QuotePresident Obama is without question a warmonger, but except for Ron Paul, his conservative Republican opponents attack him for not being enough of a warmonger. We need to start a new war now, they say. We must immediately destroy the Iranian "nuclear program," though exactly why Iran poses a threat to the United States they don't bother to explain. Iran is just one example: we also have to wage a worldwide crusade against "militant Islam." In the Republican debates, Gingrich and Santorum told off Ron Paul. He doesn't want to kill people on useless crusades. To them, this makes Dr. Paul unpatriotic.


http://mises.org/daily/5944/The-Rise-of-the-Neoconservatives

TL please post only portions of articles.
This is a violation of copyright laws.

Yawn

QuoteWe need to start a new war now, they say. We must immediately destroy the Iranian "nuclear program," though exactly why Iran poses a threat to the United States they don't bother to explain. Iran is just one example: we also have to wage a worldwide crusade against "militant Islam."

You do understand that THEY are AT WAR with the West don't you?  If you don't know that, you're naive about Islam

I'll let you think a little about what the world would be like with the greatest terrorist supporting regime having nukes would mean to the civilized world.  Shouldn't really have to explain it, and probably won't.

TowardLiberty

Quote from: Yawn on December 16, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
You do understand that THEY are AT WAR with the West don't you?  If you don't know that, you're naive about Islam

I'll let you think a little about what the world would be like with the greatest terrorist supporting regime having nukes would mean to the civilized world.  Shouldn't really have to explain it, and probably won't.

Iran wants nukes so they can be on that special list of nuke possessing countries. You know the type that dont worry about being invaded?

"They are at war with the West?"

You mean the US government?

Why shouldn't they be?

njdudeabides

Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 16, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
From that lovable polymath, David Gordon.

http://mises.org/daily/5944/The-Rise-of-the-Neoconservatives

President Obama has not been aggressive enough in some aspects of foreign policy. While the President was right to topple Gadaphi and was right on the mission to rid the world of OBL, he has been wrong to announce a date for withdrawal in Afghanistan publicly, wrong in how he has dealt with Iran, wrong in how he advocated for the ousting of a U.S. ally in Egypt, wrong in how he has ignored Israel, wrong in signing the START Treaty limiting our missile defense while appeasing Russia and ignoring Poland, wrong in how he has failed to get the international community to properly condem Assad in Syria, and wrong in how he has not dealt with North Korea. Certainly, the President has a lot of foreign policy challenges and there will be mistakes made, but the truth is this administration has a poor record as opposed to the previous administration. The previous administration failed to deal with Iran properly, though they did not beg the Iotola's to end their nuclear ambitions. The previous administration also failed to deal with North Korea for the most part. However, the previous administration had a better success record than this one, and this administration's success record is in part due to policies put in place by the previous one.

Shooterman

Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 16, 2012, 10:05:45 AM
From that lovable polymath, David Gordon.

http://mises.org/daily/5944/The-Rise-of-the-Neoconservatives

Oh crap, TL, you've done it now. Do not be surprised if you just didn't throw zingers right over some heads.
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Shooterman

Quote from: Yawn on December 16, 2012, 10:24:34 AM
You do understand that THEY are AT WAR with the West don't you?  If you don't know that, you're naive about Islam

I'll let you think a little about what the world would be like with the greatest terrorist supporting regime having nukes would mean to the civilized world.  Shouldn't really have to explain it, and probably won't.

Has it ever dawned on you, Yawn, to ask why they are at war with us, even presuming they are, and why we, as the most powerful country ( open for debate, as financially, it is no longer possible ) in the world, should fear a country we could turn into pixie dust with the push of a button?

When we fokked over Mosadegh in 1953, and set up a despot in his place ( the Shah ) did we think they would just say 'Kings X', all is forgiven?

A few short years ago, Iraq was the greatest terrorist supporting regime. Afghanistan was the greatest terrorist supporting nation. N Korea was the greatest terrorist supporting nation. Who is next? China? ( we don't want to think on China, that is definitely WWIII) Venezuela? Timfokkingbuctoo?

The greatest terrorists we face are in Foggy Bottom.

Color me skeptical.
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Yawn

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Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 16, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
Iran wants nukes so they can be on that special list of nuke possessing countries. You know the type that dont worry about being invaded?

"They are at war with the West?"

You mean the US government?

Why shouldn't they be?

Naive little libertarian.  Now I understand. The government that says they're involved in a nuclear program ONLY to generate electricity, is REALLY going to build nuclear WEAPONS but only going to use nukes for DEFENSIVE reasons--you know, that terrorist nation that has not supplied countless terrorist organizations with weapons REALLY will only use them to defend themselves and NOT deliver them to a terror cell in the USA or Europe..

So the Iranian government WAS lying after all, but still, they only want nuclear weapons to DEFEND themselves from those evil Western nations.

TowardLiberty

Quote from: Yawn on December 16, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
Naive little libertarian.  Now I understand. The government that says they're involved in a nuclear program ONLY to generate electricity, is REALLY going to build nuclear WEAPONS but only going to use nukes for DEFENSIVE reasons--you know, that terrorist nation that has not supplied countless terrorist organizations with weapons REALLY will only use them to defend themselves and NOT deliver them to a terror cell in the USA or Europe..

So the Iranian government WAS lying after all, but still, they only want nuclear weapons to DEFEND themselves from those evil Western nations.

I dont pretend to be a mind reader. Just offering a logical explanation why any nation would want nuclear weapons.

kramarat

Quote from: TowardLiberty on December 16, 2012, 03:29:07 PM
I dont pretend to be a mind reader. Just offering a logical explanation why any nation would want nuclear weapons.

No real need to read minds. I think nukes would be pretty effective at destroying a country. No secrets here. They're proud of their goals.

http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/08/17/iran-calls-for-israels-destruction-as-islamic-republic-marks-quds-day/

Yawn

A couple days ago I heard someone say, "If all the Muslim Nations put down their arms there'd be peace in the Middle East and the entire world.  If the Israelis put down their arms, there'd be no Israel."

The Islamic world, with their mandate from Allah to subdue the entire world, is behind virtually all of the wars and violence around the world.

Solar

I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed at the ignorance being displayed here.

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made international headlines when on October 27, 2005, he declared in Persian that Iran would "wipe Israel off the map."
http://www.meforum.org/2167/iran-genocidal-incitement-israel

This is not a Libertarian, nor Neohawk view, this is reality, these idiots tell us time and time again, they want to kill us, yet people still want blame the US.

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Shooterman

Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2012, 04:02:04 PM
I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed at the ignorance being displayed here.

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made international headlines when on October 27, 2005, he declared in Persian that Iran would "wipe Israel off the map."
http://www.meforum.org/2167/iran-genocidal-incitement-israel

This is not a Libertarian, nor Neohawk view, this is reality, these idiots tell us time and time again, they want to kill us, yet people still want blame the US.

Wake The Hell Up!

The Israelis are as fully capable of making a glass parking lot out of Iran, as we are. Are the Iranians so bumfokk crazy as to believe otherwise?
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Darth Fife

Quote from: Shooterman on December 16, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
The Israelis are as fully capable of making a glass parking lot out of Iran, as we are. Are the Iranians so bumfokk crazy as to believe otherwise?

Yes... As a matter of fact, they are!

You'll never go broke betting on the craziness of anyone who believes his/her god want's him/her to kill people!


Yawn

Quote from: Solar on December 16, 2012, 04:02:04 PM
I have to say, I'm extremely disappointed at the ignorance being displayed here.

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made international headlines when on October 27, 2005, he declared in Persian that Iran would "wipe Israel off the map."
http://www.meforum.org/2167/iran-genocidal-incitement-israel

This is not a Libertarian, nor Neohawk view, this is reality, these idiots tell us time and time again, they want to kill us, yet people still want blame the US.

Wake The Hell Up!

Unfortunately, the Iranian People are not really with their leadership.  The crazies WANT the world engulfed in nuclear fire.  In THAT religion, it is prophecy being fulfilled and what is needed to hasten the appearance of the Twelfth Imam

QuoteObservers of Iran have been puzzling over Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's actions lately. A populist, but not terribly popular, president, he raised the ire of the West and some of his domestic rivals when he recently proclaimed Israel should be "wiped off the map." Iran's nuclear ambitions are well-known. However, Western observers have paid less attention to the political and religious ideology behind some of Ahmadinejad's actions, which he has expressed in recent speeches (and here) that have had messianic overtones and are deeply troublesome.  http://ashbrook.org/publications/guest-05-vonheyking-twelfthimam/