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Rationing Bread, Rationing Doctors next?
« on: March 17, 2017, 05:16:04 AM »
Bernie Sanders supporters, take note of Venezuela!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article138964428.html
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Venezuela has a bread shortage. The government has decided bakers are the problem.
BOGOTA, COLOMBIA
Facing a bread shortage that is spawning massive lines and souring the national mood, the Venezuelan government is responding this week by detaining bakers and seizing establishments.

In a press release, the National Superintendent for the Defense of Socioeconomic Rights said it had charged four people and temporarily seized two bakeries as the socialist administration accused bakers of being part of a broad “economic war” aimed at destabilizing the country.

In a statement, the government said the bakers had been selling underweight bread and were using price-regulated flour to illegally make specialty items, like sweet rolls and croissants.

The government said bakeries are only allowed to produce French bread and white loaves, or pan canilla, with government-imported flour. However, in a tweet on Thursday, price control czar William Contreras said only 90 percent of baked goods had to be price-controlled products.

Two bakeries were also seized for 90 days for breaking a number of rules, including selling overpriced bread.

Juan Crespo, the president of the Industrial Flour Union called Sintra-Harina, which represents 9,000 bakeries nationwide, said the government’s heavy hand isn’t going to solve the problem.


Imagine Bernie's statement, a reality, "Healthcare is a right!"

Your son or daughter has spent nearly a decade in College, getting an education, degree, internship, and finally sets up a small practice in an otherwise lonely strip mall...  That too, cost a small fortune, the lease & renovation costs were staggering - your son/daughter, deep in debt, open the doors for practice.   All told, it'll take almost 20 years of good business to finally become debt free.

Bernie Sanders is elected President.   Healthcare Insurance goes "single payer".  Your income is immediately cut in half, as all the everyday procedures "rates" are renegotiated and "price controlled" by the new administration.  Insurance companies were difficult, but the government has the authority to imprison you.  Yet, the debt is still crushing, and you cannot default on student loans - you work to put food on the table, you clean the facilities after the patients leave (can't afford a cleaning crew)...  God forbid someone get sick or disabled from your establishment - you'd get sued too!   Curiously, you always had another passion in life, and were quite good at it... and everyone has gotta eat.  You feel imprisioned by massive debt, liability risk, poor repayment from the government - MEH, time to do something else.

What could possibly go wrong with opening a Bakery?  In a Socialist America, no business, job, or employee is safe from government intervention.  Eventually, everyone becomes a "slave"...   look to Venezuela, from prosperity to poverty.
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Re: Rationing Bread, Rationing Doctors next?
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 05:47:12 AM »
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Venezuela has a bread shortage. The government has decided bakers are the problem.

What no one knows how to bake bread at home in Venezuela?
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2017, 06:49:29 AM »
What no one knows how to bake bread at home in Venezuela?

fuel and electricity - rationed.   Materials to build a solar oven - rationed.  Wheat, sugar, yeast, etc., - rationed.

Under Socialism (Hillary Care, Obama Care, etc), if you're gonna go outside the government provided system, also known as the Black Market - you're a criminal.

The whole Socialist Nation will suffer together, those not suffering will be imprisoned.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2017, 07:33:50 AM »
What no one knows how to bake bread at home in Venezuela?
The only flour available is rationed out to bakeries.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2017, 08:18:45 AM »
ZIS ESS YOUR FAULT KOMRADE.....step over to Dis wall pleeze....blindfold?

The Venezuelan Govt is financing itself with both drugs sales and oil sales and still can't manage, now they are gonna bake bread.... :popcorn:
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 08:27:11 AM »
I can hear Bernie now... "let them eat cake"...wait they can't the government is shutting down the bakery's. Then in that case "free healthcare" for all the starving people of Venezuela...!

Free, free, free....weeeeeeeee everything is free in Bernie's world even his lakefront house.

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 09:22:52 AM »
fuel and electricity - rationed.   Materials to build a solar oven - rationed.  Wheat, sugar, yeast, etc., - rationed.

Under Socialism (Hillary Care, Obama Care, etc), if you're gonna go outside the government provided system, also known as the Black Market - you're a criminal.

The whole Socialist Nation will suffer together, those not suffering will be imprisoned.

Farmers must be eating great. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 11:52:33 AM »
Farmers must be eating great.
Come on! You know that the first thing a socialist government does is take the food supply. Those farmers work hard growing those crops and the government comes along and confiscates them. For "The People", you understand.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 12:07:26 PM »
Come on! You know that the first thing a socialist government does is take the food supply. Those farmers work hard growing those crops and the government comes along and confiscates them. For "The People", you understand.
Exactly! Stalin and what he did to Ukraine are a perfect example.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2017, 01:48:58 PM »
Come on! You know that the first thing a socialist government does is take the food supply. Those farmers work hard growing those crops and the government comes along and confiscates them. For "The People", you understand.

Right, and what good is a farm without seed to plant?   They take everything and put it under government control, if a cow dies, you better be able to prove it died (and you didn't eat it).   Grow anything without government approval - the notion that living on a "farm" in the country somehow isolates yourself from scrutiny is wishful thinking... they're going to take what you have and leverage that against the populace, removing you from the "mix" if you don't play along.

The wheat, for flour, is imported besides.

Last year people were being busted for trying to sell chicken eggs on the Venezuela black market - communist regimes are wise to capitalist loving rebels!   A little "freedom" corrupts the populace!

Imagine HillaryCare, where it was ILLEGAL for a doctor to provide care outside the government sanctioned system.  Either your "All in" or out-of-business.   The only license to practice is within the government system, or you're breaking the law, there is no "Good Samaritan Healthcare" allowed, so get-in-line if you want anything.  Get too sick and die, "He was draining valuable resources away from the collective, it was best for the rest of us - should have left us sooner."

I don't know why people imagine there would be "pockets of resistance" here and there, when we have Presidents like Obama empowering the IRS and other agencies with guns & ammo to enforce his executive orders!   Dictators are not stupid, if they can't starve people into cooperation, make them pay and pay and pay until they're too broke to go anywhere else - whatever it takes, tax everything, or steal the rest. 

It was done before...  read Genesis 47 - It lays out exactly how it's done.
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  13 And there was no bread in all the land; for the famine was very sore, so that the land of Egypt and all the land of Canaan fainted by reason of the famine.   
14 And Joseph gathered up all the money that was found in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, for the corn which they bought: and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh's house.
15 And when money failed in the land of Egypt, and in the land of Canaan, all the Egyptians came unto Joseph, and said, Give us bread: for why should we die in thy presence? for the money faileth.
16 And Joseph said, Give your cattle; and I will give you for your cattle, if money fail.
17 And they brought their cattle unto Joseph: and Joseph gave them bread in exchange for horses, and for the flocks, and for the cattle of the herds, and for the asses: and he fed them with bread for all their cattle for that year.
18 When that year was ended, they came unto him the second year, and said unto him, We will not hide it from my lord, how that our money is spent; my lord also hath our herds of cattle; there is not ought left in the sight of my lord, but our bodies, and our lands:
19 Wherefore shall we die before thine eyes, both we and our land? buy us and our land for bread, and we and our land will be servants unto Pharaoh: and give us seed, that we may live, and not die, that the land be not desolate.
20 And Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh; for the Egyptians sold every man his field, because the famine prevailed over them: so the land became Pharaoh's.
21 And as for the people, he removed them to cities from one end of the borders of Egypt even to the other end thereof.

Venezuela was a WEALTHY nation a little more than a generation ago, just as Argentina wasn't too bad off - but change the government... and a generation later, nobody who witnessed liberty is alive to tell about it.   Already... it's becoming apparent - sadly - we have forgotten what we had with the free market, regarding Health Care Insurance!   Congress can't bring themselves to flat out REPEAL and leave us alone!   

Repeal and Replace...?   I'd rather they Repeal and Forget!   I'd much rather cut out Insurance altogether, and just pay the Doctor DIRECTLY - it'd be cheaper, he/she would earn more money & I'd get better care.   Insurance (or government) sticking themselves between me and my doctor....?   We're both going BROKE.

ObamaCare is about CONTROL.     It's not about Doctors or your health.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2017, 08:41:44 AM »
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Repeal and Replace...?   I'd rather they Repeal and Forget!   I'd much rather cut out Insurance altogether, and just pay the Doctor DIRECTLY - it'd be cheaper, he/she would earn more money & I'd get better care.   Insurance (or government) sticking themselves between me and my doctor....?   We're both going BROKE.

ObamaCare is about CONTROL.     It's not about Doctors or your health.
Actually it was about giving the workers a pay raise when the government had frozen wages and prices, during WW2. Getting rid of insurance only works if you give the money, spent on health insurance, directly to the workers - to spend as they please, as with their other wages. I'm retired. My former employer pays for my heath insurance as part of my retirement package. If they're no longer going to pay for health insurance, are they now going to boost my pension? Or are they going to - in effect - give me a pay cut?
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