Even though I'm not a fan, I believe Rand Paul is most likely to win the Republican nomination as long as the Republican establishment doesn't pull its dirty trick to get Christy or Bush as our only choice. "Our" side has to fight both the Democrats and the Republican establishment, but it seems only Paul can unite so many.  Here he's boldly going after the black American vote (I refuse to use the term African-American. They've lived in America long enough)

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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul's resistance to military intervention abroad is likely to be viewed as his biggest break from Republican tradition if he seeks his party's nomination in 2016.

But Mr. Paul is also challenging his own party by increasingly embracing issues dear to the African-American voters who have overwhelmingly rejected the GOP for decades.

Mr. Paul is championing the restoration of voting rights to felons, wants to ease sentencing of nonviolent drug offenders and says he disagrees with Republican-led efforts in several states to curtail early voting and require voters to show photo ID at the polls.

On Friday, Mr. Paul is scheduled to speak to the National Urban League conference in Cincinnati, a mostly African American audience that's often bypassed by potential Republican presidential candidates.

"I want to be known as a Republican who got more people to vote, not less," Mr. Paul said in an interview.

Mr. Paul is sponsoring a bill that would allow non-violent felons to regain their voting rights after serving time. Mr. Paul also wants to downgrade some non-violent drug crimes from felonies to misdemeanors to make it easier for those offenders to get jobs when they get out of jail. Minorities, he said, are disproportionately charged with drug crimes.

"The biggest impediment to both voting and getting a job is having a criminal record," Mr. Paul said. "I've always felt like the war on drugs had gotten out of control, and as I've met different people in our cities I've become more aware there's a racial element to the war on drugs."

At a Senate hearing earlier this week on his bill, Mr. Paul said some drug offenders "are people who just made youthful mistakes."

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/07/24/rand-paul-veers-off-party-line-on-sentencing-voting-rights/?mod=WSJ_hppMIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond

Quote from: carlb on July 24, 2014, 04:39:44 PM
Even though I'm not a fan, I believe Rand Paul is most likely to win the Republican nomination as long as the Republican establishment doesn't pull its dirty trick to get Christy or Bush as our only choice. "Our" side has to fight both the Democrats and the Republican establishment, but it seems only Paul can unite so many.  Here he's boldly going after the black American vote (I refuse to use the term African-American. They've lived in America long enough)

No disrespect to the Libertarians, but the Pauls; pere' et fils', are emphatically
NOT traditional conservatives nor or they Tea Party supporters. 
Recall the mantra of the Jacobin Revolutionaries:"Liberte'. Egalite', Fraternitie."
Their 'liberte' was absolute and total freeing of the individual from all restraints;
cultural, economic, religious, social etc; other than that which was self imposed.
This nostrum is in direct conflict w/traditional and principled conservatism born
in the Greece and Rome of Antiquity!!
My considered opinion is that the choice of Rand Paul is a very serious mistake
for those who want to return to the  principles of our Founding Fathers as our
guidepost.

Are we discussing his high school yearbook?

I am very disappointed by Paul's comments and will no longer support him or vote for him.   

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 24, 2014, 06:55:32 PM
Are we discussing his high school yearbook?

Ya gotta give Boo credit.
He always get to the core of the issue in a flash.

Quote from: Walter Josh on July 24, 2014, 07:49:54 PM

Ya gotta give Boo credit.
He always get to the core of the issue in a flash.

You flatter me sir

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 24, 2014, 06:55:32 PM
Are we discussing his high school yearbook?

Play on words. Most likely to succeed in winning the nomination.

BTW, Posting this in no way implies that I support these positions. It's what I dislike about him.

Quote from: carlb on July 24, 2014, 04:39:44 PM
Even though I'm not a fan, I believe Rand Paul is most likely to win the Republican nomination as long as the Republican establishment doesn't pull its dirty trick to get Christy or Bush as our only choice. "Our" side has to fight both the Democrats and the Republican establishment, but it seems only Paul can unite so many.  Here he's boldly going after the black American vote (I refuse to use the term African-American. They've lived in America long enough)

Pandering for the Black vote is not a winner in the republican primaries. The percentage of Blacks in the GOP is small and they are conservative. Pandering appeals only to "takers" and they are not going to abandon the dems. I agree we need to attract more Black supporters, but should do so by effectively communicating that conservative values are aligned with their values.

Paul was a fresh voice, but always missing some key ingredients for a presidential conservative.  Charisma, mainly.  I was hoping he'd have rallied people behind a monumental tax-reform push by this time.  I barely hear anything about it. 

Let's put it in perspective.  Paul is a hell of alot better than Shrillary if it sadly comes down to a lesser of two evils.  Personally I think a governor would make a better president than a senator.

Quote from: kit saginaw on July 25, 2014, 05:37:59 AM
Paul was a fresh voice, but always missing some key ingredients for a presidential conservative.  Charisma, mainly.  I was hoping he'd have rallied people behind a monumental tax-reform push by this time.  I barely hear anything about it.

Absolutely agree! He has yet to formulate a message of some sort, instead he focuses on crossing political lines, from Berzerkly campus to the Black vote, yet not one thing that solidifies his campaign as in what his plans are.

I'm with you, I had hoped he would target both party's for spending us into oblivion.

I believe he's the LEAST likely to succeed.

Quote from: prophetofdoom on July 25, 2014, 08:48:26 AM

he is against showing ID at the polls????!!

What???

Why?

I agree that felons should not be forever denied the right to vote (except I don't think murderers should...)

But I don't agree we shouldn't have to show ID when we vote.. In fact, I am beginning to think we should have some kind of... shall we say SAT-like test b4 one can vote. I don't think uninformed voters (ever seen Jesse Watters on O'Reilly??? Ahhh)... should be voting. Low income voters are how we got stuck with this inexperienced (etc... etc) president[/size]



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Read Paul's actual words and context first.  Too many people fall for inaccurate quoting.

To the person who said I should read Paul's words and not rely on a poster here.. well, that's true, but I don't have unlimited time on the internet (don't have I-net @ home), so

I wish people would quote people accurately. That is a HUGE problem these days... Some people just don't have much of a moral compunction vis a vis lying



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