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RAND PAUL for 2016??
« on: December 05, 2012, 03:15:51 AM »
I been hearing alot of chatter on the internet about US SENATOR RAND PAUL running for the wh in 2016. i don't know that much about him yet but will read up more about him. what is the forum's opinion on him if any? thank you



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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 03:33:38 AM »
He would be my #1 pick.

The weak republican establishment won't let it happen though. Conservatism scares them.


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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 04:16:21 AM »
Hell NO!

Pot and Amnesty. Rand Paul's New Agenda for the GOP



So the official position of the GOP, should be that we are going to throw people in prison for possession of pot, and that we are going to put 20-30 million people on buses and send them back to Mexico?

Yeah. There's a winning platform. 2016 will be a slam dunk. :rolleyes:

Lets face it. Prosecuting weed possession is a waste of time and money. And the reason we have so many illegals, is due to our hunger for cheap labor. The genie is out of the bottle.

For the illegals that are working and productive, a path to citizenship, and getting them on the tax roles, is the only thing that makes sense. We should concentrate on getting the criminals and non-producers out of here.

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 04:30:25 AM »
Milton Friedman on illegal immigration


Youtube clip of Milton Friedman talking about illegal immigration.


Connecting it to economic policies and the history of the USA.
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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 04:47:40 AM »
Rand Paul?  No.  I still can't wrap my small brain around the fact that we have so many unemployed while bringing in another million or so aliens to take their place on the dole with us.  It's the getting them working and productive that bothers me when no jobs are being created for them.  How's it supposed to work any better for them than it does us?  The employment offices are full of ready to work citizens that can't find a job because not near enough of them are available.  There's a process, I'm told, at the local job sources here of matching you up to your most recent work description and if there are none of these you are advised to go to school.  Benefits are for twenty weeks now and then you are on your own, job or no job.  Will we have to school the aliens too?  Will we have to provide for their food and heathcare and housing as well while they get on that path to citizenship or is that the plan, to keep them up until they acquire everything they should need to stay here? 

I don't favor Paul's attitude towards Israel.  We are allies and we should consider their interests as well as our own and to abandon them, of all nations, would spell real trouble for us. 
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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 04:56:39 AM »
Milton Friedman on illegal immigration

Youtube clip of Milton Friedman talking about illegal immigration.


Connecting it to economic policies and the history of the USA.


Brilliant as usual.

His implication is that the creation of the perpetual welfare state, (by our government), destroyed the idea of immigration being a healthy component of the country. He's right.

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 04:57:25 AM »
thank you keyboarder--i didn't know Rand Paul's position's on immigration and Israel till now--i am crossing Rand Paul off my 2016 gop list.  :thumbup:

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 05:13:47 AM »
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and that we are going to put 20-30 million people on buses and send them back to Mexico?

Screw the damn pot issue. I'm so tired of the selfish crying about getting high.

As far as ILLEGAL immigration, THIS is what I've been talking about.  NEITHER party supported this until recently.  Now the Repubs have joined the Dems and it's going to happen.  But guess what?  I WON'T vote if a candidate supports it.

Go ahead and push for it and I guarantee you'll have another LOSER in 2016.

And no, what you do is stop dangling carrots in front of people who have broken your nation's laws.  You stop giving them benefits, and yes, if they've been picked up and found to be here ILLEGALLY, you send them home. 

Like I said, there was a time that a LEGAL immigrant had to prove he wouldn't be a burden on the American Taxpayer.

I'm sure you would call the police if someone ILLEGALLY broke into your house, wouldn't you?

The question is, WHY do you support open borders when we have, in reality, 20% unemployment with fathers who can't feed their families and keep their homes?

Why do you support allowing terrorists to sneak across our southern border?

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 05:23:57 AM »
thank you keyboarder--i didn't know Rand Paul's position's on immigration and Israel till now--i am crossing Rand Paul off my 2016 gop list.  :thumbup:

Just my opinion, and I'm still learning from the sages here.  I am bewildered by this last election but some here that seem really informed like Yawn, Krama, Solar, and Billy can shed light on any of the mess we're in.
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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 05:27:13 AM »
thank you keyboarder--i didn't know Rand Paul's position's on immigration and Israel till now--i am crossing Rand Paul off my 2016 gop list.  :thumbup:

Then you should read them for yourself and not take someones opinion on the matter.
It's what sets us apart from other forums, "facts".

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 05:28:02 AM »
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The question is, WHY do you support open borders when we have, in reality, 20% unemployment with fathers who can't feed their families and keep their homes?

Why do you support allowing terrorists to sneak across our southern border?

Where did I say that? :confused:

I'm for securing the borders, no welfare or entitlements for illegals, and sending home anyone that is caught breaking the law.

On the other hand, I think a realistic approach would be to issue tempory visas, (green cards), to people that got here illegally, but are otherwise productive members of society, get them on the tax roles, and get them started on the same arduous process that everyone else has to go through to become a citizen.

Your ideas are great.................they'll just never win any elections. Ever.

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 06:09:35 AM »
The Republican Elite will not allow Rand Paul to get the nomination - end of story.

I read somewhere that half of the illegal aliens currently in the U.S. came here during "W"'s tenure in the White House, the other have are evenly divided between Clinton and Obama. Illegal immigration serves the power base of both the Democrat and Republican parties. It will not be stopped while they control the government.

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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 06:10:04 AM »
 Yawn and K, do me a favor, use the full quote feature when responding to another poster, so the rest of us don't have to hunt for the person being quoted.
Thanks.
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Re: RAND PAUL for 2016??
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 06:11:46 AM »
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The Republican Elite will not allow Rand Paul to get the nomination - end of story.

I read somewhere that half of the illegal aliens currently in the U.S. came here during "W"'s tenure in the White House, the other have are evenly divided between Clinton and Obama. Illegal immigration serves the power base of both the Democrat and Republican parties. It will not be stopped while they control the government.

Post of the day. Completely agree.
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