We all know the answer, it's leftist pols in both party's. But here's something to ponder...
But how is it, Social Security is always on the verge of collapse, while welfare never seems to have a worry in the world?
Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2018, 04:43:47 PM
We all know the answer, it's leftist pols in both party's. But here's something to ponder...
But how is it, Social Security is always on the verge of collapse, while welfare never seems to have a worry in the world?
Hmm. That's because...hmm. Okay. Perhaps because Social Security is directly funded by taxes but welfare in most of its forms is funded by congress? Other than that I have nothing.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 19, 2018, 05:36:35 PM
Hmm. That's because...hmm. Okay. Perhaps because Social Security is directly funded by taxes but welfare in most of its forms is funded by congress? Other than that I have nothing.
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Exactly! They steal our hard earned money with the promise of a return, but turn around and give it to those undeserving, as in Illegals.
Funny how the play the semantics game in a pyramid scheme, but welfare?
Yeah, it's all a big ass con.
They keep taking all the SS money for other thing like feeding the welfare hole. Next year SS payments will be taxed at 80%. Up from zero then to 20% now at 80% for next year I have been told by my tax lady.
Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2018, 05:40:42 PM
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Exactly! They steal our hard earned money with the promise of a return, but turn around and give it to those undeserving, as in Illegals.
Funny how the play the semantics game in a pyramid scheme, but welfare?
Yeah, it's all a big ass con.
YAY ME! I get to ride the CPF executive moped for a week!
Welfare is much like Obamacare. It has not collapsed because congress continues to bail it out.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 19, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
YAY ME! I get to ride the CPF executive moped for a week!
Welfare is much like Obamacare. It has not collapsed because congress continues to bail it out.
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Two correct answers in a row? That means you get the Reagan Cowboy hat, but you better tie it down if you're riding the CPF moped, you know how it has a mind all its own when it sees a liberal... :woot:
Quote from: walkstall on February 19, 2018, 06:44:27 PM
They keep taking all the SS money for other thing like feeding the welfare hole. Next year SS payments will be taxed at 80%. Up from zero then to 20% now at 80% for next year I have been told by my tax lady.
Oh man, can you research that and post it?
Quote from: Solar on February 19, 2018, 07:16:25 PM
Oh man, can you research that and post it?
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Originally, Social Security retirement benefits weren't subject to taxes. Those good old days are gone, however. Not everyone pays taxes on their Social Security benefits and everyone gets 15% of their benefits tax-free. But if you have retirement income from other sources (a 401(k), a pension, a part-time job), your income will probably be over the limits set by the Social Security Administration for tax-free benefits. That means you could pay taxes on up to 85% of your Social Security income
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If you do pay taxes, here's how it'll go: The Social Security tax rate is the same as your regular income tax rate. Say you're filing as an individual. For every dollar of income you have over $25,000, $0.50 of your Social Security benefits may be subject to federal income tax. That rises to $0.85 for ever dollar over $34,000 that you claim in income.
https://smartasset.com/retirement/is-social-security-income-taxable
Because City and Local officials can skim welfare easily. Just create more invisible receipients ala the District of Columbia's office of Financial management. Then there are the influx of illegals. Welfare is the Cities' cash cow.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on February 19, 2018, 07:55:39 PM
Because City and Local officials can skim welfare easily. Just create more invisible receipients ala the District of Columbia's office of Financial management. Then there are the influx of illegals. Welfare is the Cities' cash cow.
Big Gov money laundering
Quote from: walkstall on February 19, 2018, 07:39:42 PM
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Originally, Social Security retirement benefits weren't subject to taxes. Those good old days are gone, however. Not everyone pays taxes on their Social Security benefits and everyone gets 15% of their benefits tax-free. But if you have retirement income from other sources (a 401(k), a pension, a part-time job), your income will probably be over the limits set by the Social Security Administration for tax-free benefits. That means you could pay taxes on up to 85% of your Social Security income
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If you do pay taxes, here's how it'll go: The Social Security tax rate is the same as your regular income tax rate. Say you're filing as an individual. For every dollar of income you have over $25,000, $0.50 of your Social Security benefits may be subject to federal income tax. That rises to $0.85 for ever dollar over $34,000 that you claim in income.
https://smartasset.com/retirement/is-social-security-income-taxable
Also, My grandfather used t refer to FDR as "that Socialist in the Whitehouse" and used to say that FDR and the Democrats sold Social Security as an individual account (sort of like "you can keep your plan and keep your doctor") and that American's would never have to contribute more than 2%. Many , like my grandfather, never believed FDR and didn't think this was either constitutional or the proper role of government. I still recall my grandfather having us grandkids come into his office and"schooling" us in why you can never trust a Democrat! :thumbsup:
Quote from: wally on February 20, 2018, 04:18:18 AM
Also, My grandfather used t refer to FDR as "that Socialist in the Whitehouse" and used to say that FDR and the Democrats sold Social Security as an individual account (sort of like "you can keep your plan and keep your doctor") and that American's would never have to contribute more than 2%. Many , like my grandfather, never believed FDR and didn't think this was either constitutional or the proper role of government. I still recall my grandfather having us grandkids come into his office and"schooling" us in why you can never trust a Democrat! :thumbsup:
My dad apologized for the world his generation created, cringed when Brokaw coined the phrase "The Greatest Generation", said it was his generation that gave us WWII for the sole reason of controlling the economy and getting young men off the farm and into the cities where they could be nurtured into good little bots making money for govt.
At the time, I didn't really grasp all of what he was saying, it was the 60s, but hindsight being the genius it is, reality hits, corporate connections ring true, and the Dim party has a trail of tears connecting to every piece of Legislation that has damaged American culture, with either help from the Establishment via capitulation, or outright support.
Sure, his father carries some of the blame he said, but very little, he admitted it was his generation that allowed and supported a once small Federal govt, to grow to 10 times its original size in as little as a decade.
He said yanking kids off the farm was nothing short of making soldiers for the left, bots as he pointed out. Once they tasted city life with all its corruption under the guise of Liberty and removal of God, there would be no returning to a better and peaceful way of life.
Rural America still exists, but we are severely outnumbered by the larger cities. Large cities all run by Marxists and the Dim party.
Quote from: Solar on February 20, 2018, 05:41:03 AM
My dad apologized for the world his generation created, cringed when Brokaw coined the phrase "The Greatest Generation", said it was his generation that gave us WWII for the sole reason of controlling the economy and getting young men off the farm and into the cities where they could be nurtured into good little bots making money for govt.
At the time, I didn't really grasp all of what he was saying, it was the 60s, but hindsight being the genius it is, reality hits, corporate connections ring true, and the Dim party has a trail of tears connecting to every piece of Legislation that has damaged American culture, with either help from the Establishment via capitulation, or outright support.
Sure, his father carries some of the blame he said, but very little, he admitted it was his generation that allowed and supported a once small Federal govt, to grow to 10 times its original size in as little as a decade.
He said yanking kids off the farm was nothing short of making soldiers for the left, bots as he pointed out. Once they tasted city life with all its corruption under the guise of Liberty and removal of God, there would be no returning to a better and peaceful way of life.
Rural America still exists, but we are severely outnumbered by the larger cities. Large cities all run by Marxists and the Dim party.
My Dad used to laugh about how my grandfather used to bitch and moan about "that socialist in the White House" who created social security, but you didn't hear him bitch all that much after he started receiving his social security checks! :ttoung:
BTW, my Dad never took credit for being a member of the Greatest Generation. However, I think of his generation as the greatest because of all they sacrificed and all they accomplished.
My dad got on a bus after working a summer when he graduated high school and he traveled up to Canada and joined the RCAF so he could learn to fly, in 1940! After Pearl Harbor the US Army sent trains up to Canada and brought our boys back home. My Dad joined the US Army Air COrp and was sent to Randolph Field in Texas for advanced fight training and became a bomber pilot. He then went to Avon Park, Florida and became a B-26 Pilot, where they lost a whole lot of men and planes in training with this new bomber that went straight into production and was called the Widow Maker (one a day in Tampa Bay). He was with the first group of B-26's that flew "across the pond" to England, via Greenland. He flew out of Germany and on D-Day and eventually his group flew out of a base in France. He was a Captain when he was shot down and bailed out and was taken as a POW for the last seven months of the war.
There's was the Greatest Generation!
Quote from: Solar on February 20, 2018, 05:41:03 AM
My dad apologized for the world his generation created, cringed when Brokaw coined the phrase "The Greatest Generation", said it was his generation that gave us WWII for the sole reason of controlling the economy and getting young men off the farm and into the cities where they could be nurtured into good little bots making money for govt.
At the time, I didn't really grasp all of what he was saying, it was the 60s, but hindsight being the genius it is, reality hits, corporate connections ring true, and the Dim party has a trail of tears connecting to every piece of Legislation that has damaged American culture, with either help from the Establishment via capitulation, or outright support.
Sure, his father carries some of the blame he said, but very little, he admitted it was his generation that allowed and supported a once small Federal govt, to grow to 10 times its original size in as little as a decade.
He said yanking kids off the farm was nothing short of making soldiers for the left, bots as he pointed out. Once they tasted city life with all its corruption under the guise of Liberty and removal of God, there would be no returning to a better and peaceful way of life.
Rural America still exists, but we are severely outnumbered by the larger cities. Large cities all run by Marxists and the Dim party.
For those of us in our generation who were coming of age in the 60's saw two worlds. One was the Woodstock and Haight-Asbury crowd and the others was those who went to Vietnam and/or went about becoming productive adults. Unfortunately, too many of the Woodstock, etc; crowd went to leftist colleges and now find themselves in power. That is what we are fighting right now. Fortunately, many of us have been aware of these folks since the 60's and know what we are facing.
Quote from: wally on February 20, 2018, 07:02:12 AM
My Dad used to laugh about how my grandfather used to bitch and moan about "that socialist in the White House" who created social security, but you didn't hear him bitch all that much after he started receiving his social security checks! :ttoung:
BTW, my Dad never took credit for being a member of the Greatest Generation. However, I think of his generation as the greatest because of all they sacrificed and all they accomplished.
My dad got on a bus after working a summer when he graduated high school and he traveled up to Canada and joined the RCAF so he could learn to fly, in 1940! After Pearl Harbor the US Army sent trains up to Canada and brought our boys back home. My Dad joined the US Army Air COrp and was sent to Randolph Field in Texas for advanced fight training and became a bomber pilot. He then went to Avon Park, Florida and became a B-26 Pilot, where they lost a whole lot of men and planes in training with this new bomber that went straight into production and was called the Widow Maker (one a day in Tampa Bay). He was with the first group of B-26's that flew "across the pond" to England, via Greenland. He flew out of Germany and on D-Day and eventually his group flew out of a base in France. He was a Captain when he was shot down and bailed out and was taken as a POW for the last seven months of the war.
There's was the Greatest Generation!
No one is disqualifying their achievements. My dad's point was, his generation allowed socialism to sink its talons into our Constitution, and did little to stop it. That's why he said they, in no way, should be qualified as the greatest generation because they were responsible for the mess this country is currently in.
End of story!
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 20, 2018, 07:59:17 AM
For those of us in our generation who were coming of age in the 60's saw two worlds. One was the Woodstock and Haight-Asbury crowd and the others was those who went to Vietnam and/or went about becoming productive adults. Unfortunately, too many of the Woodstock, etc; crowd went to leftist colleges and now find themselves in power. That is what we are fighting right now. Fortunately, many of us have been aware of these folks since the 60's and know what we are facing.
I entered college in the fall of '69. I survived an indoctrination by the Leftist activists who openly supported the Teachings of Chairman Mao and the Communist Manifesto. I have to admit that I never heard of Saul Alinsky, at the time though. Most young people grew up and got a job and put away the childish ways of kids who were away from home for the first time. As we know, some became hard core committed Leftists, while others got stuck on one issue or another which made them life long frustrated Democrat voters. I must admit that the corruption of Nixon and his administration made me register as an Independent right up until the time that Ronald Reagan ran against George Herbert Walker Bush and Bob Dole. I registered as a Republican to vote for Reagan and against these two. Reagan developed me into a staunch Conservative because he spoke directly from his heart to my own. ( Remember Barry Goldwater's slogan "In your heart you know he's right?" )