You do understand that anybody who's breathing can write whatever they want on wiki ............. yes ?  Or ...... no ?

I do.  I also understand that one source for a rather explosive statement doesn't lend any credibility.  When I read the transfer of 160 TB on multiple news sites I'll give it more weight.  Hal Turner is a less than credible source. 

Quote from: Solar on July 19, 2018, 08:57:27 AM
WIKI, the leftist conspiracy site, are you fuckin serious?

Army Dave seems to be having trouble here.

But I'm not going to be mean, until I'm sure he's not my cousin.  Cuz is a good guy, great Army man.

I'd hate to think the DU / BRD fools would stoop to masquerading as military.  But I wouldn't doubt it for a second.

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 09:01:38 AM
You do understand that anybody who's breathing can write whatever they want on wiki ............. yes ?  Or ...... no ?

I do.  I also understand that one source for a rather explosive statement doesn't lend any credibility.  When I read the transfer of 160 TB on multiple news sites I'll give it more weight.  Hal Turner is a less than credible source.

Dave, did you even stop a look at the links cited as evidence? It reads like a laundry list of Marxist hate sites, including SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center, Snopes and a host of other Marxist hate groups.
Are you telling us, that's who you identify with?

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 09:01:38 AM
You do understand that anybody who's breathing can write whatever they want on wiki ............. yes ?  Or ...... no ?

I do.  I also understand that one source for a rather explosive statement doesn't lend any credibility.  When I read the transfer of 160 TB on multiple news sites I'll give it more weight.  Hal Turner is a less than credible source.

Sooooo ... be sure to give BOTH your doubt.  Sounds like a wash.

I have no reason to claim it's true, but I won't claim it's not.

I'm a big UFO fan.  I love the ideas, theories, and stories.

But I'm always wary of anybody who says "It HAS to be true" ......... and anybody who says "It CAN'T be true".  Neither one is being rational, only stroking their agendas.

Army Dave seems to be having trouble here.

But I'm not going to be mean, until I'm sure he's not my cousin.  Cuz is a good guy, great Army man.

I'd hate to think the DU / BRD fools would stoop to masquerading as military.  But I wouldn't doubt it for a second.


Questioning a source regarding a story that appears on no major news sites gives me pause though it doesn't for you it would seem.

Questioning my military history says more about you than it does about me.  It's been over 20 years since I retired from the army but I'm certain I can find my DD 214 somewhere in my extra bedroom.

I have only questioned the source of an article that apparently is not on any major news site.  Anything on Fox?  US News and world Report?   AP, UPI?  Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until the story has been verified by independent and reputable news sources?  I'm being attacked for this?  Really?

It's easier to attack me, even passive aggressively, than to question the veracity of a news article.  Shame on you, this is how conspiracy theories start.

Quote from: AndyJackson on July 19, 2018, 09:15:14 AM
Sooooo ... be sure to give BOTH your doubt.  Sounds like a wash.

I have no reason to claim it's true, but I won't claim it's not.

I'm a big UFO fan.  I love the ideas, theories, and stories.

But I'm always wary of anybody who says "It HAS to be true" ......... and anybody who says "It CAN'T be true".  Neither one is being rational, only stroking their agendas.

Exactly! I never claimed the OP was 100% accurate, I simply put it out here so everyone could come to their own conclusions.
Even if half of it is total BS, that still leaves it 50% true.

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 09:17:35 AM
Army Dave seems to be having trouble here.

But I'm not going to be mean, until I'm sure he's not my cousin.  Cuz is a good guy, great Army man.

I'd hate to think the DU / BRD fools would stoop to masquerading as military.  But I wouldn't doubt it for a second.


Questioning a source regarding a story that appears on no major news sites gives me pause though it doesn't for you it would seem.

Questioning my military history says more about you than it does about me.  It's been over 20 years since I retired from the army but I'm certain I can find my DD 214 somewhere in my extra bedroom.

I have only questioned the source of an article that apparently is not on any major news site.  Anything on Fox?  US News and world Report?   AP, UPI?  Wouldn't it make more sense to wait until the story has been verified by independent and reputable news sources?  I'm being attacked for this?  Really?

It's easier to attack me, even passive aggressively, than to question the veracity of a news article.  Shame on you, this is how conspiracy theories start.

Obviously you're not grasping anything said by anyone else.

We just asked you to question everyone equally, including wiki's insults for Turner, as well as Turner's claims.

No need for an immediate swan dive to the drama.  Just be adult and consistent.

People who show up claiming to be military, and immediately jump to hating everything Trump, GOP, conservative, etc.......... are all over the internet.  It's not about you, whoever you are.  It's about that cute little fraud that we see all the time.

I'm retired USAF.  Don't expect you to believe me, any more than I have to believe you.

Quote from: AndyJackson on July 19, 2018, 09:33:27 AM
Obviously you're not grasping anything said by anyone else.

We just asked you to question everyone equally, including wiki's insults for Turner, as well as Turner's claims.

No need for an immediate swan dive to the drama.  Just be adult and consistent.

People who show up claiming to be military, and immediately jump to hating everything Trump, GOP, conservative, etc.......... are all over the internet.  It's not about you, whoever you are.  It's about that cute little fraud that we see all the time.

I'm retired USAF.  Don't expect you to believe me, any more than I have to believe you.

We see this all the time, people come in wearing a badge of identity as a shield against attacks. Hell, I could easily have placed my identity as a Disabled Vet, but that's not the victim with which I want to identify myself as.

I chose Solar because it pisses off libs when they discover I'm an expert in a field they claim for themselves as the savior of the planet.

Exactly! I never claimed the OP was 100% accurate, I simply put it out here so everyone could come to their own conclusions.
Even if half of it is total BS, that still leaves it 50% true.

Well, either it happened or it didn't, that's 100 percent or zero percent.

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 09:48:02 AM
Exactly! I never claimed the OP was 100% accurate, I simply put it out here so everyone could come to their own conclusions.
Even if half of it is total BS, that still leaves it 50% true.

Well, either it happened or it didn't, that's 100 percent or zero percent.

Do you think it's feasible that Russians have evidence that could upend the Dim witch hunt against Trump, yes or no?

Do you think it's feasible that Russians have evidence that could upend the Dim witch hunt against Trump, yes or no?

You know, if nothing had turned up, it could be labeled a witch hunt.  (If the Russians have evidence and it's presented, I expect Mueller, a conservative Republican originally appointed by Bush, to follow the evidence wherever it leads.)

There have been more than 20 federal indictments so far - I've lost count, a handful of guilty pleas, one Dutch lawyer was sentenced to six months, not to mention Manafort who's being held for alleged witness tampering.

If there's evidence on either side it should be dealt with, but labeling an inquiry that has actually produced results is not, by definition, a witch hunt; if there were no results, you could label it a witch hunt.

If I've written anything in error, please correct it, but don't make a personal attack against me.  I do my very best to be accurate when I write. 

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Do you think it's feasible that Russians have evidence that could upend the Dim witch hunt against Trump, yes or no?

You know, if nothing had turned up, it could be labeled a witch hunt.  (If the Russians have evidence and it's presented, I expect Mueller, a conservative Republican originally appointed by Bush, to follow the evidence wherever it leads.)

There have been more than 20 federal indictments so far - I've lost count, a handful of guilty pleas, one Dutch lawyer was sentenced to six months, not to mention Manafort who's being held for alleged witness tampering.

If there's evidence on either side it should be dealt with, but labeling an inquiry that has actually produced results is not, by definition, a witch hunt; if there were no results, you could label it a witch hunt.

If I've written anything in error, please correct it, but don't make a personal attack against me.  I do my very best to be accurate when I write.

please stop drinking the kool-aid
CORRECTION: Mueller, an establishment swamp dwelling bottom-feeder with zero credibility.

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Do you think it's feasible that Russians have evidence that could upend the Dim witch hunt against Trump, yes or no?

You know, if nothing had turned up, it could be labeled a witch hunt.  (If the Russians have evidence and it's presented, I expect Mueller, a conservative Republican originally appointed by Bush, to follow the evidence wherever it leads.)

There have been more than 20 federal indictments so far - I've lost count, a handful of guilty pleas, one Dutch lawyer was sentenced to six months, not to mention Manafort who's being held for alleged witness tampering.

If there's evidence on either side it should be dealt with, but labeling an inquiry that has actually produced results is not, by definition, a witch hunt; if there were no results, you could label it a witch hunt.

If I've written anything in error, please correct it, but don't make a personal attack against me.  I do my very best to be accurate when I write.

How about the fact that this entire Witch Hunt was based on false allegations that Trump was colluding with Russians?
We all know it was the Dims that were doing the colluding.

How about the fact that this entire Witch Hunt was based on false allegations that Trump was colluding with Russians?

I seem to recall an event on 27 July 2016.  How would that be labeled?  We have also heard various accounts of the meeting that took place in Trump Tower.  That story has changed several times, not a good sign if you don't want to attract attention to any possible questionable action.

Considering the number of indictments, and the number of guilty pleas, if Trump is truly innocent, he would have nothing to fear about this investigation. 

Stopping the investigation before it's completed would never make anyone happy.  If Trump were to fire Mueller I think we'd see another Saturday Night Massacre ... and we know how that turned out though it still took quite a while for the dust to completely settle.  (I lived through that.)

I have to say that his behavior is curious.  Putin acts, and I've heard this from several pundits, as if he has a check from Trump and is waiting to cash it, figuratively speaking of course. 

One more thing, well several, actually.  I am tired of the daily assault on my time and energy from all the political news.  It's tiring.

I just saw a troubling meme on my Facebook page, it was a very liberal site that posted it, and I then looked for a more mainstream link to see a more balanced report.  How's Yahoo!  ?  Is that reliable enough?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-concerned-wiretaps-show-trump-jr-met-putin-ally-231215529.html

This may not be collusion, but it don't look good.

Quote from: Dave, Retired US Army on July 19, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
How about the fact that this entire Witch Hunt was based on false allegations that Trump was colluding with Russians?

I seem to recall an event on 27 July 2016.  How would that be labeled?  We have also heard various accounts of the meeting that took place in Trump Tower.  That story has changed several times, not a good sign if you don't want to attract attention to any possible questionable action.

You mean when Obozo illegally wiretapped Trump based on a fraudulent dossier, that meeting?

QuoteConsidering the number of indictments, and the number of guilty pleas, if Trump is truly innocent, he would have nothing to fear about this investigation.

Yet not one was attached to Trump. Keep digging, we know the truth here and do not entertain leftist opinion pieces. Feel free to post actual evidence linking Trump.

QuoteStopping the investigation before it's completed would never make anyone happy.  If Trump were to fire Mueller I think we'd see another Saturday Night Massacre ... and we know how that turned out though it still took quite a while for the dust to completely settle.  (I lived through that.)

Again, more leftist hysteria! Show me where Trump is trying to stop the investigation that is working in his favor.

QuoteI have to say that his behavior is curious.  Putin acts, and I've heard this from several pundits, as if he has a check from Trump and is waiting to cash it, figuratively speaking of course. 

Turn off the damn TV and think for yourself for once in your life.

One more think, well several, actually.  I am tired of the daily assault on my time and energy from all the political news.  It's tiring.

QuoteI just saw a troubling meme on my Facebook page, it was a very liberal site that posted it, and I then looked for a more mainstream link to see a more balanced report.  How's Yahoo!  ?  Is that reliable enough?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-son-concerned-wiretaps-show-trump-jr-met-putin-ally-231215529.html

This may not be collusion, but it don't look good.

You really don't get it, do you?
Yahoo is just as leftist as the rest of the main stream media. But I entertained your point and read the link and noticed the obvious that you obviously missed.
Yahoo is attempting "Guilt By Association".

Use some critical thought and start looking at the news for what it is, a witch hunt to end Trumps Presidency.
And since when did the NRA become the enemy of the country? You do know they've given a lot of money to Dems as well, right?