Putin at Valdai - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules (FULL VIDEO)
Real world leader at press conference.

Quote from: kalash on October 25, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
Putin at Valdai - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules (FULL VIDEO)
Real world leader at press conference.

2hrs. 59min. long...

Quote from: kalash on October 25, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
Putin at Valdai - World Order: New Rules or a Game without Rules (FULL VIDEO)
Real world leader at press conference.

I assume you had a point for posting it?

Quote from: Solar on October 25, 2014, 10:53:48 AM
I assume you had a point for posting it?

This is political forum. Putin is politic. This video is worth watching.

Quote from: kalash on October 26, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
This is political forum. Putin is politic. This video is worth watching.

That makes me went to spend 6 hours looking at a 2hrs. 59min video.      

Quote from: kalash on October 26, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
This is political forum. Putin is politic. This video is worth watching.

Putin is a small time dictator riding on the backs of his predecessors.
This is an American forum discussing American issues, Putin doesn't even rate a Miss congeniality award on the world stage.

The New York Times doesn't want you to understand this Vladimir Putin speech
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/07/the_new_york_times_doesnt_want_you_to_understand_this_vladimir_putin_speech/
"... Putin has just delivered a speech every American deserves to hear and consider. Few will have done so for the simple reason that our media declined to tell you about the Russian leader's presentation to an annual gathering of leaders and thinkers called the Valdai International Discussion Club, a Davos variant. Here is the Kremlin transcript, and now readers have two things to decide: What they think of the speech and what they think of the American media for not reporting it.

The theme at Valdai this year was "The World Order: NewRules, or a Game Without Rules." With the Ukraine crisis bumbling along toward a conclusion (or not) and the horrifically pointless mess America has made of the Middle East and now worsens daily, the either/or title is just about right: We cannot continue on in the post-Cold War era as we have until now...
A Russian commentator named Dmitry Orlov, whom I do not know of, said of Putin's contribution, "This is probably the most important political speech since Churchill's 'Iron Curtain' speech of March 5, 1946." I have no archive of political speeches and cannot cast a vote, but Putin's remarks certainly have an amplitude that makes ignoring them unforgivable. Paying-attention readers can compare them with the speech Putin gave as Crimea was annexed last March. Churchillian or no, this is once again big stuff..."

Quote from: kalash on November 10, 2014, 10:34:09 AM
The New York Times doesn't want you to understand this Vladimir Putin speech
http://www.salon.com/2014/11/07/the_new_york_times_doesnt_want_you_to_understand_this_vladimir_putin_speech/
"... Putin has just delivered a speech every American deserves to hear and consider. Few will have done so for the simple reason that our media declined to tell you about the Russian leader's presentation to an annual gathering of leaders and thinkers called the Valdai International Discussion Club, a Davos variant. Here is the Kremlin transcript, and now readers have two things to decide: What they think of the speech and what they think of the American media for not reporting it.

The theme at Valdai this year was "The World Order: NewRules, or a Game Without Rules." With the Ukraine crisis bumbling along toward a conclusion (or not) and the horrifically pointless mess America has made of the Middle East and now worsens daily, the either/or title is just about right: We cannot continue on in the post-Cold War era as we have until now...
A Russian commentator named Dmitry Orlov, whom I do not know of, said of Putin's contribution, "This is probably the most important political speech since Churchill's 'Iron Curtain' speech of March 5, 1946." I have no archive of political speeches and cannot cast a vote, but Putin's remarks certainly have an amplitude that makes ignoring them unforgivable. Paying-attention readers can compare them with the speech Putin gave as Crimea was annexed last March. Churchillian or no, this is once again big stuff..."

You do realize, both Salon and NY Times are far leftist rags here in the US, yet it appears your claim that US media (which is far leftist) failed to cover the speech, is disproved by your very own links reporting on his speech.

If, Putin was as big a threat to the US as you purport, he'd be making headlines here, but the truth is, he amounts to a mosquito on the world stage, in other words, a pest.
Russia can only threaten it's close neighbors, in turn making him a pest.
His need to intrude on the air space of Europe and the US, again, is proof he is nothing more than a pest.

Get over it, Russia is not the USSR, it's dead and buried, no matter how much you yearn for the old days of a failed USSR, Putin's Russia has absolutely no global influence outside of arming thugs around the globe with severely outdated weaponry.

Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
You do realize, both Salon and NY Times are far leftist rags here in the US, yet it appears your claim that US media (which is far leftist) failed to cover the speech, is disproved by your very own links reporting on his speech.

If, Putin was as big a threat to the US as you purport, he'd be making headlines here, but the truth is, he amounts to a mosquito on the world stage, in other words, a pest.
Russia can only threaten it's close neighbors, in turn making him a pest.
His need to intrude on the air space of Europe and the US, again, is proof he is nothing more than a pest.

Get over it, Russia is not the USSR, it's dead and buried, no matter how much you yearn for the old days of a failed USSR, Putin's Russia has absolutely no global influence outside of arming thugs around the globe with severely outdated weaponry.

With oil at $77 and the ruble falling. Putin has some more pressing problems than "putting the band back together".

Quote from: supsalemgr on November 10, 2014, 01:14:24 PM
With oil at $77 and the ruble falling. Putin has some more pressing problems than "putting the band back together".

I saw that, the Ruble is plummeting, and he can't count on oil to save it.
I believe the nonsense he's pulling is nothing more than home spun distraction for the plebes.

Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
You do realize, both Salon and NY Times are far leftist rags here in the US, yet it appears your claim that US media (which is far leftist) failed to cover the speech, is disproved by your very own links reporting on his speech.

If, Putin was as big a threat to the US as you purport, he'd be making headlines here, but the truth is, he amounts to a mosquito on the world stage, in other words, a pest.
Russia can only threaten it's close neighbors, in turn making him a pest.
His need to intrude on the air space of Europe and the US, again, is proof he is nothing more than a pest.

Get over it, Russia is not the USSR, it's dead and buried, no matter how much you yearn for the old days of a failed USSR, Putin's Russia has absolutely no global influence outside of arming thugs around the globe with severely outdated weaponry.

It would be a mistake to ignore the Russian Navy, I think. Unlike many other parts of the old Soviet military complex, the Navy is still very much alive, and quite powerful, especially the submarine service. As with the US, by the 1980s, the USSR had invested much of its nuclear capability in missile subs. Those subs never quite went away, and in the past seven or eight years, Mr. Putin's admirals have been building entire new classes of attack and missile submarines.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 10, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
It would be a mistake to ignore the Russian Navy, I think. Unlike many other parts of the old Soviet military complex, the Navy is still very much alive, and quite powerful, especially the submarine service. As with the US, by the 1980s, the USSR had invested much of its nuclear capability in missile subs. Those subs never quite went away, and in the past seven or eight years, Mr. Putin's admirals have been building entire new classes of attack and missile submarines.

Again, mosquitoes. They wouldn't stand a chance against the US navy, even Vice Admiral K. Stalbo, writing in Mosrkov Sbornik in 1981 supports the view that navies cannot win wars alone. He
argues that navies can only influence the course of a war
[Ref. 22: pp. 20-28]. A strong navy may make the war on land
go smoother, but certainly a strong navy is not mandatory to
achieve victory. While this may not always be the case, it
has been in all of the major conflicts involving Russia and
the Soviet Union.

But to assume Russia would go nuclear is ludicrous at best.

Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2014, 07:07:02 PM
Again, mosquitoes. They wouldn't stand a chance against the US navy, even Vice Admiral K. Stalbo, writing in Mosrkov Sbornik in 1981 supports the view that navies cannot win wars alone. He
argues that navies can only influence the course of a war
[Ref. 22: pp. 20-28]. A strong navy may make the war on land
go smoother, but certainly a strong navy is not mandatory to
achieve victory. While this may not always be the case, it
has been in all of the major conflicts involving Russia and
the Soviet Union.

But to assume Russia would go nuclear is ludicrous at best.

You said they have "no global influence" and "severely outdated weaponry." Looking just at Russian naval assets, I wouldn't have gone that far.

Militarily, of course, Russia is small potatoes compared to the Soviet Union at its height. But even today, if they decide that Ukraine should be part of Russia, I think Ukraine will become part of Russia in about the time it takes me to type this sentence.

Quote from: TboneAgain on November 10, 2014, 07:21:53 PM
You said they have "no global influence" and "severely outdated weaponry." Looking just at Russian naval assets, I wouldn't have gone that far.

Militarily, of course, Russia is small potatoes compared to the Soviet Union at its height. But even today, if they decide that Ukraine should be part of Russia, I think Ukraine will become part of Russia in about the time it takes me to type this sentence.

Comparatively speaking on the global stage, Russia can only irritate, but a Marxist in our House, only emboldens these dictators which is extremely dangerous because of our projection of weakness,
But in no way diminishes us on the world stage, even in a weakened state, we're still 10 times stronger than any Military on the planet..

Hell, even Cuba could sting us, anyone can, but they bite at the risk of their own demise.

Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2014, 05:19:59 AM

But in no way diminishes us on the world stage, even in a weakened state, we're still 10 times stronger than any Military on the planet..

So, we have strongest military in the world and we can do whatever we want to. Right?
The thought, that you are living now in the Evil empire never came to your mind?