Pueto Rico Assistance

Started by topside, September 30, 2017, 04:08:56 PM

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topside

I don't get the perspective of the mayor of San Juan. Or maybe I do.

http://therightscoop.com/trump-tweets-attack-on-puerto-rico-mayor/

Was she saying that the U.S. response to PR hurricane(s) is killing them? It sure sounds like it. She's part of the leadership of PR and owns the problems down there. Any help she gets from "outside" isn't owed them. It's a kind gift.

Unless you're helpless and depraved - have become totally dependent on the government. You do with what you have and don't start blaming others. Did they have a plan for disasters - locally and individually?

If an Ohio tornado rips through my neighborhood, I don't count on any government entity to bail me out. Sure, I've purchased insurance to help me rebuild as it is a product offered. And if the national guard shows up to help me and my family with supplies then I'm grateful - it's an unexpected kindness. But if they don't, that's okay. I should be prepared to get my family under cover and keep them fed / watered to the degree that I can. And if our plan isn't sufficient for us to survive, then that's on us.

It's called self preservation and responsibility. The government is only a backup at best.

I'm sorry for what happened in PR and pray for them. I just finished two weeks in FL helping (a few days) people dig out - a kindness I could offer as part of my faith and love for them. Praying for them.

It's hard - but government dependence is not what gets people back on their feet.


walkstall

Quote from: mrclose on September 30, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
RE-POST

From a friend in Puerto Rico


I would say the mayor is looking for just money that she can rat hole.
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TboneAgain

Quote from: walkstall on September 30, 2017, 05:36:28 PM

I would say the mayor is looking for just money that she can rat hole.

Very possible. PR has been in dire economic straits for years, thanks to monolithic left-wing government. There is no equivalent of the Republican or Libertarian parties in PR.
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Ms.Independence

Quote from: mrclose on September 30, 2017, 04:10:41 PM
RE-POST

From a friend in Puerto Rico

Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.
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walkstall

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 30, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.


Soooooo are they saying PR has no helicopter.   :rolleyes:  They should be flying 24/7 helping their own people. 
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Ms.Independence

Quote from: walkstall on September 30, 2017, 06:16:57 PM

Soooooo are they saying PR has no helicopter.   :rolleyes:  They should be flying 24/7 helping their own people.

That was one of my thoughts as well ... where are the helicopters??  Is the island so devastated that they can't get helicopters into areas??  Does FEMA not have any?
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TboneAgain

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 30, 2017, 06:32:39 PM
That was one of my thoughts as well ... where are the helicopters??  Is the island so devastated that they can't get helicopters into areas??  Does FEMA not have any?

I don't think FEMA actually has any helicopters. They mostly have things like buses and mobile communications centers. They rent trucks and buy and distribute storage facilities and temporary housing -- usually mobile homes.

FEMA is essentially designed to provide coordination, housing, and most especially money after a disaster. Like most federal agencies, FEMA is horribly inefficient and almost incredibly wasteful. The agency's inept performance after Katrina likely cost G. W. Bush whatever legacy he might have had prior to the storm.

Some interesting reading here -- http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/11/fema.giveaway/index.html
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Cryptic Bert

What does this clown expect? The island was completely destroyed. I have been there many times. Most houses aren't built to withstand that caliber of a storm. If that sort of storm hit anywhere in the US the damage to the electrical infrastructure would have been the same. And, FEMA can't just roll in. They are hundreds of miles away in the Caribbean.

supsalemgr

Quote from: topside on September 30, 2017, 04:08:56 PM
I don't get the perspective of the mayor of San Juan. Or maybe I do.

http://therightscoop.com/trump-tweets-attack-on-puerto-rico-mayor/

Was she saying that the U.S. response to PR hurricane(s) is killing them? It sure sounds like it. She's part of the leadership of PR and owns the problems down there. Any help she gets from "outside" isn't owed them. It's a kind gift.

Unless you're helpless and depraved - have become totally dependent on the government. You do with what you have and don't start blaming others. Did they have a plan for disasters - locally and individually?

If an Ohio tornado rips through my neighborhood, I don't count on any government entity to bail me out. Sure, I've purchased insurance to help me rebuild as it is a product offered. And if the national guard shows up to help me and my family with supplies then I'm grateful - it's an unexpected kindness. But if they don't, that's okay. I should be prepared to get my family under cover and keep them fed / watered to the degree that I can. And if our plan isn't sufficient for us to survive, then that's on us.

It's called self preservation and responsibility. The government is only a backup at best.

I'm sorry for what happened in PR and pray for them. I just finished two weeks in FL helping (a few days) people dig out - a kindness I could offer as part of my faith and love for them. Praying for them.

It's hard - but government dependence is not what gets people back on their feet.

She is a democrat so she expects everything be provided. Folks this is a carbon copy of how LA and the Mayor of NOLA responded to Katrina.
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Solar

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 30, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.
"Geraldo Rivera"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Jerry Rivers, why in the Hell is it our responsibility to fix the damn world?
The island is, after all, in a hurricane track, has a record of devastation, any moron that wants to risk their life and live there, is also responsible for their own safety in the aftermath.

These moron bleeding hearts always crack me up with their over the top drama, claiming nothing is being done, yet never personally visited the power station, the water treatment system, never move beyond more than a couple of miles beyond their functioning hotel room.
Rivers lost all credibility decades ago as a circus clown in iraq.
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This San Juan major Carmen Yulin Cruz is the Puerto Rican version of Maxime Waters all air and no supstance. Other majors and folks in Puerto Rico are calling her out for her lies.

The ones that are part of the problem in Puerto Rico are the ones that hate President Trump and want to see him fail no matter how many people get hurt, killed, or lose property because of this hurricane. The ones that are part of the solution will help, guide, and empower people where and how they can get help.

Just like everything and everywhere else the battle of hate will be boardcast all over the main street media while love will tackle the problems that exist when situation hit like Hurricane Maria.

Fellow Puerto Rico Mayor Rips San Juan Mayor — 'She's Not Participating In Any Meetings'


The mayor of Guaynabo, Puerto Rico cast serious doubt Saturday on the claims made by San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, who has repeatedly attacked President Trump and accused him of abandoning Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/09/30/exclusive-fellow-puerto-rico-mayor-rips-san-juan-mayor-shes-not-participating-in-any-meetings/
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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2017, 04:53:05 AM
"Geraldo Rivera"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Jerry Rivers, why in the Hell is it our responsibility to fix the damn world?
The island is, after all, in a hurricane track, has a record of devastation, any moron that wants to risk their life and live there, is also responsible for their own safety in the aftermath.

These moron bleeding hearts always crack me up with their over the top drama, claiming nothing is being done, yet never personally visited the power station, the water treatment system, never move beyond more than a couple of miles beyond their functioning hotel room.
Rivers lost all credibility decades ago as a circus clown in iraq.

Every time the mayor opens her mouth she proves what an incompetent imbecile she is.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

walkstall

Quote from: Ms.Independence on September 30, 2017, 05:47:02 PM
Link please?

Hmm... Sounds like it's from an e-mail.
QuoteRE-POST From a friend in Puerto Rico
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 01, 2017, 05:13:44 AM
Every time the mayor opens her mouth she proves what an incompetent imbecile she is.
Isn't that cutting to the heart of a liberal? Always blame someone else, it's always someone else's responsibility when their own policies fail because as a liberal, you let infrastructure take a backseat to social issues.
Where in the Hell are the dozers to open the roads, the helicopters set aside for rescue efforts, the food stores of packaged emergency food in the event of a hurricane?
Oh, that's right, most of that money was spent on brainwashing children in school learning the teachings of Che, setting up abortion clinics around the island, programs to keep the poor, well, poor, rather than teaching them to feed themselves, or how to start a business.
No, these libs lined their pockets as well as their crony Marxist buddies never once expecting to get caught when trouble finally hit the island, so the natural reaction of a lib is, to point blame all around and hope no one points out the obvious truth.
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2017, 05:26:57 AM
Isn't that cutting to the heart of a liberal? Always blame someone else, it's always someone else's responsibility when their own policies fail because as a liberal, you let infrastructure take a backseat to social issues.
Where in the Hell are the dozers to open the roads, the helicopters set aside for rescue efforts, the food stores of packaged emergency food in the event of a hurricane?
Oh, that's right, most of that money was spent on brainwashing children in school learning the teachings of Che, setting up abortion clinics around the island, programs to keep the poor, well, poor, rather than teaching them to feed themselves, or how to start a business.
No, these libs lined their pockets as well as their crony Marxist buddies never once expecting to get caught when trouble finally hit the island, so the natural reaction of a lib is, to point blame all around and hope no one points out the obvious truth.

And some morons would like to make them a U.S. State. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."