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Pueto Rico Assistance
« on: September 30, 2017, 04:08:56 PM »
I don't get the perspective of the mayor of San Juan. Or maybe I do.

http://therightscoop.com/trump-tweets-attack-on-puerto-rico-mayor/

Was she saying that the U.S. response to PR hurricane(s) is killing them? It sure sounds like it. She's part of the leadership of PR and owns the problems down there. Any help she gets from "outside" isn't owed them. It's a kind gift.

Unless you're helpless and depraved - have become totally dependent on the government. You do with what you have and don't start blaming others. Did they have a plan for disasters - locally and individually?

If an Ohio tornado rips through my neighborhood, I don't count on any government entity to bail me out. Sure, I've purchased insurance to help me rebuild as it is a product offered. And if the national guard shows up to help me and my family with supplies then I'm grateful - it's an unexpected kindness. But if they don't, that's okay. I should be prepared to get my family under cover and keep them fed / watered to the degree that I can. And if our plan isn't sufficient for us to survive, then that's on us.

It's called self preservation and responsibility. The government is only a backup at best.

I'm sorry for what happened in PR and pray for them. I just finished two weeks in FL helping (a few days) people dig out - a kindness I could offer as part of my faith and love for them. Praying for them.

It's hard - but government dependence is not what gets people back on their feet.


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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 04:10:41 PM »
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From a friend in Puerto Rico

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I got online for the first time in days and one of the very first things I saw was an out and out lie about the government's response to the crisis I am in the middle of.

I don't care if you hate or love Trump, using the crisis in Puerto Rico to spread political lies is disgusting!

I am literally across the street from the airport, and the hotel I am in is where many of the first responders are staying, so here is what is going on from someone who is actually here seeing it.

The government is here and has been here!

Every single day plane after plane full of FEMA, FBI, homeland security, army, Air Force, Marines, and extra police officers from all over the country shows up.
Cargo plane after cargo plane and ship after ship full of supplies shows up. There is a hospital ship off the coast that I can see from the beach.
The response was quick and it keeps coming!
They are out every day from sun up until sun down.
 
This isn't a political issue, it is a humanitarian one.
The lies being spread about the response aren't helping the people here, it is just fueling hate based on lies!

If you want to help Puerto Rico, donate money or supplies and pray.
If you want to play politics find something else to argue about!

Not like there aren't hundreds of topics for you to choose from!

Edited to add this- Roads have been completely destroyed in many areas, especially the remote ones. The military and FEMA are going out to these places on foot with 100 lbs + packs on their backs.

It is requiring them to cut their way through flooded areas to get there. It will take time to reach everyone when conditions are as bad as they are.

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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 05:36:28 PM »
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I would say the mayor is looking for just money that she can rat hole.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 05:45:18 PM »

I would say the mayor is looking for just money that she can rat hole.

Very possible. PR has been in dire economic straits for years, thanks to monolithic left-wing government. There is no equivalent of the Republican or Libertarian parties in PR.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2017, 05:47:02 PM »
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Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2017, 06:16:57 PM »
Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.


Soooooo are they saying PR has no helicopter.   :rolleyes:  They should be flying 24/7 helping their own people. 
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 06:32:39 PM »

Soooooo are they saying PR has no helicopter.   :rolleyes:  They should be flying 24/7 helping their own people.

That was one of my thoughts as well ... where are the helicopters??  Is the island so devastated that they can't get helicopters into areas??  Does FEMA not have any?
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2017, 07:40:26 PM »
That was one of my thoughts as well ... where are the helicopters??  Is the island so devastated that they can't get helicopters into areas??  Does FEMA not have any?

I don't think FEMA actually has any helicopters. They mostly have things like buses and mobile communications centers. They rent trucks and buy and distribute storage facilities and temporary housing -- usually mobile homes.

FEMA is essentially designed to provide coordination, housing, and most especially money after a disaster. Like most federal agencies, FEMA is horribly inefficient and almost incredibly wasteful. The agency's inept performance after Katrina likely cost G. W. Bush whatever legacy he might have had prior to the storm.

Some interesting reading here -- http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/11/fema.giveaway/index.html
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2017, 07:53:40 PM »
What does this clown expect? The island was completely destroyed. I have been there many times. Most houses aren't built to withstand that caliber of a storm. If that sort of storm hit anywhere in the US the damage to the electrical infrastructure would have been the same. And, FEMA can't just roll in. They are hundreds of miles away in the Caribbean.


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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 04:35:57 AM »
I don't get the perspective of the mayor of San Juan. Or maybe I do.

http://therightscoop.com/trump-tweets-attack-on-puerto-rico-mayor/

Was she saying that the U.S. response to PR hurricane(s) is killing them? It sure sounds like it. She's part of the leadership of PR and owns the problems down there. Any help she gets from "outside" isn't owed them. It's a kind gift.

Unless you're helpless and depraved - have become totally dependent on the government. You do with what you have and don't start blaming others. Did they have a plan for disasters - locally and individually?

If an Ohio tornado rips through my neighborhood, I don't count on any government entity to bail me out. Sure, I've purchased insurance to help me rebuild as it is a product offered. And if the national guard shows up to help me and my family with supplies then I'm grateful - it's an unexpected kindness. But if they don't, that's okay. I should be prepared to get my family under cover and keep them fed / watered to the degree that I can. And if our plan isn't sufficient for us to survive, then that's on us.

It's called self preservation and responsibility. The government is only a backup at best.

I'm sorry for what happened in PR and pray for them. I just finished two weeks in FL helping (a few days) people dig out - a kindness I could offer as part of my faith and love for them. Praying for them.

It's hard - but government dependence is not what gets people back on their feet.

She is a democrat so she expects everything be provided. Folks this is a carbon copy of how LA and the Mayor of NOLA responded to Katrina.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 04:53:05 AM »
Link please?

Even Geraldo Rivera has stated that their isn't enough help and that ports are full of supplies but no way to get them to people and not enough truck drivers to deliver the goods.  Roads and passageways have been destroyed and no way to get supplies to people.
"Geraldo Rivera"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Jerry Rivers, why in the Hell is it our responsibility to fix the damn world?
The island is, after all, in a hurricane track, has a record of devastation, any moron that wants to risk their life and live there, is also responsible for their own safety in the aftermath.

These moron bleeding hearts always crack me up with their over the top drama, claiming nothing is being done, yet never personally visited the power station, the water treatment system, never move beyond more than a couple of miles beyond their functioning hotel room.
Rivers lost all credibility decades ago as a circus clown in iraq.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 05:13:30 AM »
This San Juan major Carmen Yulin Cruz is the Puerto Rican version of Maxime Waters all air and no supstance. Other majors and folks in Puerto Rico are calling her out for her lies.

The ones that are part of the problem in Puerto Rico are the ones that hate President Trump and want to see him fail no matter how many people get hurt, killed, or lose property because of this hurricane. The ones that are part of the solution will help, guide, and empower people where and how they can get help.

Just like everything and everywhere else the battle of hate will be boardcast all over the main street media while love will tackle the problems that exist when situation hit like Hurricane Maria.

Fellow Puerto Rico Mayor Rips San Juan Mayor — ‘She’s Not Participating In Any Meetings’


The mayor of Guaynabo, Puerto Rico cast serious doubt Saturday on the claims made by San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, who has repeatedly attacked President Trump and accused him of abandoning Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurricane Maria.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2017/09/30/exclusive-fellow-puerto-rico-mayor-rips-san-juan-mayor-shes-not-participating-in-any-meetings/
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 05:13:44 AM »
"Geraldo Rivera"? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Jerry Rivers, why in the Hell is it our responsibility to fix the damn world?
The island is, after all, in a hurricane track, has a record of devastation, any moron that wants to risk their life and live there, is also responsible for their own safety in the aftermath.

These moron bleeding hearts always crack me up with their over the top drama, claiming nothing is being done, yet never personally visited the power station, the water treatment system, never move beyond more than a couple of miles beyond their functioning hotel room.
Rivers lost all credibility decades ago as a circus clown in iraq.

Every time the mayor opens her mouth she proves what an incompetent imbecile she is.
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Re: Pueto Rico Assistance
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 05:14:29 AM »
Link please?

Hmm... Sounds like it's from an e-mail.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2017, 05:26:57 AM »
Every time the mayor opens her mouth she proves what an incompetent imbecile she is.
Isn't that cutting to the heart of a liberal? Always blame someone else, it's always someone else's responsibility when their own policies fail because as a liberal, you let infrastructure take a backseat to social issues.
Where in the Hell are the dozers to open the roads, the helicopters set aside for rescue efforts, the food stores of packaged emergency food in the event of a hurricane?
Oh, that's right, most of that money was spent on brainwashing children in school learning the teachings of Che, setting up abortion clinics around the island, programs to keep the poor, well, poor, rather than teaching them to feed themselves, or how to start a business.
No, these libs lined their pockets as well as their crony Marxist buddies never once expecting to get caught when trouble finally hit the island, so the natural reaction of a lib is, to point blame all around and hope no one points out the obvious truth.
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