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Title: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Tourist on November 12, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Propaganda part of norm for government

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/17/editorial-propaganda-part-of-norm-for-government/
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 12, 2017, 10:12:18 PM
Quote from: Tourist on November 12, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Propaganda part of norm for government

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/17/editorial-propaganda-part-of-norm-for-government/

Can you form your own opinion?
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: walkstall on November 13, 2017, 03:50:48 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 12, 2017, 10:12:18 PM
Can you form your own opinion?

This is our copy and paste poster again.

He out the door again. 
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2017, 05:45:09 AM
Quote from: Tourist on November 12, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Propaganda part of norm for government

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/17/editorial-propaganda-part-of-norm-for-government/
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The returning idiot troll doesn't see the irony in what he posts.
This mental midget links to a hardcore leftist outlet, of which is complaining about the very behavior it uses on its very own audience during the Marxists administration. Lies and manipulation.

"Spending our money to keep us legitimately informed is one thing, but it is a slap in the face when it uses it to pat itself on the back for these infringements or tries to manipulate our opinions and behavior."


Son, you really need to grasp the concept of critical thought and stop relying on other peoples opinions as sources of news.
There's a reason you keep getting booted from every forum you enter.
Once you figure out why, you'll be on the road to understanding the world around you, and believe me, it's far more complicated than you can imagine, and no, the US, nor its people are the enemy.

I know you'll read this, I know you'll be back and I also know you'll manage to inflict your ignorance once again on the forum and quickly get booted.
Try figuring out why your BS is unwelcomed everywhere you go.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: snowboard on November 13, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: supsalemgr on November 13, 2017, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: snowboard on November 13, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.

Care to provide some examples of a police state the US is?
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 13, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: snowboard on November 13, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.

A police state? Really?
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Hoofer on November 13, 2017, 06:22:59 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 13, 2017, 06:14:23 PM
A police state? Really?
Only for criminals, they seem to run into them everywhere.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Possum on November 14, 2017, 05:54:59 AM
Quote from: snowboard on November 13, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.
It damn sure ain't for illegals.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: s3779m on November 14, 2017, 05:54:59 AM
It damn sure ain't for illegals.
Yep, proof of a leftist attempt to take over the country.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Walter Josh on November 16, 2017, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Tourist on November 12, 2017, 09:32:31 PM
Propaganda part of norm for government

http://www.eastbaytimes.com/2016/11/17/editorial-propaganda-part-of-norm-for-government/
-----------------------------------------
An anecdote from history.
The opinion about propaganda belongs to Edward Bernays,
whose mother was Anna Freud, niece of Sigmund (yes him).
Predictably, all were hard left Socialists whose ideas engulfed
European politics following the disaster of the Great War.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: tozi on March 04, 2019, 02:50:03 AM
Americans want to think that they live in a peaceful, free country with a balanced budget, but that belief is not true.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.

You know that you live in a police state when everything is illegal and you have no rights.

You have no free speech rights, religious rights, gun rights, there is civil forfeiture, the government wiretaps your phone, records your web history, reads your email, takes away your right to silence, can torture you, and can extrajudicuallly assassinate you.

Your taxes fund illegal immigrants, debt, endless wars, curfews, checkpoints, no fly lists, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA laws, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.

The elites are obviously going all the way to destroy the world. Just look at history and Mao, Hitler, and Stalin.

When Americans remain quiet about rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, endless US wars, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm what kind of message does that send to the elites?

Do you think the 1% is just going to turn around and restore freedom? Do you think our overlords are just going to stop increasing tyranny on their own?

Unless Americans start speaking out, resisting, protesting, getting out into the streets with pitchforks and torches, tar and feathering the elites, cops, soldiers, politicians, government workers, and media puppets, breaking windows, setting fires, and killing people, Americans will end up in the concentration camps.

There's no hope. The US will be lucky to last another 30 years.

The best we can do now is to warn people to study history and prepare.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The line has been crossed. The Bill of Rights will never be restored. Even if the government said that they have ended NSA wiretapping, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, and secret FISA courts, who would believe them?

The 1% appears intent on causing an economic collapse, a civil war, and WWIII.

Those fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/lionel-shrivers-american-collapse

http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html

http://blog.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/2015/03/adios_land_of_the_free_-_new_s.html

http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/george-will-when-everything-is-a-crime/article_5b97f1cf-5168-59c2-99ce-8540d5ce6182.html

http://nevadanewsandviews.com/welcome-to-post-constitutional-america/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-begins-testing-fingerprint-check-082000663.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/as_trial_ends_surreal_scene_le.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-california-fighting-caffeine-dui-192312988.html

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2017/4/7/345647/Tennessee-Supreme-Court-Upholds-Police.aspx

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/12/judge_orders_man_arrested_for.html?ath=57736eac0e2c3addf91479a82deb9e5d

http://www.telegram.com/news/20160505/woman-arrested-for-staying-silent-during-traffic-stop-sues

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article153373524.html

http://libertarian.forumbuild.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4

Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: supsalemgr on March 04, 2019, 04:28:52 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 02:50:03 AM
Americans want to think that they live in a peaceful, free country with a balanced budget, but that belief is not true.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.

You know that you live in a police state when everything is illegal and you have no rights.

You have no free speech rights, religious rights, gun rights, there is civil forfeiture, the government wiretaps your phone, records your web history, reads your email, takes away your right to silence, can torture you, and can extrajudicuallly assassinate you.

Your taxes fund illegal immigrants, debt, endless wars, curfews, checkpoints, no fly lists, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA laws, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.

The elites are obviously going all the way to destroy the world. Just look at history and Mao, Hitler, and Stalin.

When Americans remain quiet about rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, endless US wars, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm what kind of message does that send to the elites?

Do you think the 1% is just going to turn around and restore freedom? Do you think our overlords are just going to stop increasing tyranny on their own?

Unless Americans start speaking out, resisting, protesting, getting out into the streets with pitchforks and torches, tar and feathering the elites, cops, soldiers, politicians, government workers, and media puppets, breaking windows, setting fires, and killing people, Americans will end up in the concentration camps.

There's no hope. The US will be lucky to last another 30 years.

The best we can do now is to warn people to study history and prepare.

The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.

The line has been crossed. The Bill of Rights will never be restored. Even if the government said that they have ended NSA wiretapping, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, and secret FISA courts, who would believe them?

The 1% appears intent on causing an economic collapse, a civil war, and WWIII.

Those fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/lionel-shrivers-american-collapse

http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html

http://blog.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/2015/03/adios_land_of_the_free_-_new_s.html

http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/george-will-when-everything-is-a-crime/article_5b97f1cf-5168-59c2-99ce-8540d5ce6182.html

http://nevadanewsandviews.com/welcome-to-post-constitutional-america/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-begins-testing-fingerprint-check-082000663.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/as_trial_ends_surreal_scene_le.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-california-fighting-caffeine-dui-192312988.html

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2017/4/7/345647/Tennessee-Supreme-Court-Upholds-Police.aspx

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/12/judge_orders_man_arrested_for.html?ath=57736eac0e2c3addf91479a82deb9e5d

http://www.telegram.com/news/20160505/woman-arrested-for-staying-silent-during-traffic-stop-sues

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article153373524.html

http://libertarian.forumbuild.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4

I suggest you dig a deep hole, get into it and cover up with a blanket. Coming here with all the negativity and no solid solutions is not welcomed.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: tozi on March 04, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
You know that you are in hell when you live in a police state are not allowed to say it.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Possum on March 04, 2019, 04:46:17 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
You know that you are in hell when you live in a police state are not allowed to say it.
Actually, you were allowed to say it, no one is going to put you in jail. The part you missed was that you offered no solutions. Hell even AOC has offered solutions, not very bright ones, but solutions, which puts you under her bar.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Billy's bayonet on March 04, 2019, 04:46:35 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
You know that you are in hell when you live in a police state are not allowed to say it.

Have you ever been in a true police STate?  I have, you have no idea how fortunate you are to live in the USA....try going outside the US to some third world shithole for about a week and see how you like it, try going to your commie paradise like Venezuela which is about to explode. Try going to mainland China and do something they don't like.
You have no clue.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: tozi on March 04, 2019, 05:36:13 AM
 
Yesterday the government wanted your photo.

Today the government wants your fingerprints.

Tomorrow the government will want your DNA.

Next week the government will want you to register your guns

Next month the government will confiscate your guns.

Next year the government will send you to the concentration camps.

How much are you going to take?

Americans should go hardcore about resisting oppression now.

The police state doesn't keep you safe. Tyranny actually increases danger because it gives people a false sense of security and leads to more terrorism. The government takes away your right protect yourself, but the state won't protect you.

The main point of the police state is to crush resistance to the 1%

If there is TSA groping and NSA wiretapping then why is there still terrorism?

Americans should start wearing wigs, disguises, bandages, beards, hats, sunglasses, head scarves, and surgical masks.

Americans should report everyone to the police as terrorists to keep the police busy and to make a mockery of the police state while waking people up about the danger of tyranny.

Americans should get fake ID's and sell, trade, or give away like candy copies of their birth certificates, Social Security cards, passports, and driver licenses.

Americans should smuggle to avoid taxes and tariffs and make victimless gun possession, prostitution, drugs, licensing, and gambling laws unenforceable.

No one rules if no obeys.

They can't kill us all.

The government and illegal immigrants don't obey the law, so why should Americans obey the law and pay taxes that they didn't vote for?

The USA is no longer a democracy. Everything is illegal and everyone is a criminal. Obeying the law is difficult when the laws constantly change, the laws are contradictory, and our overlords don't even tell us what the laws are.

Many Americans feel powerless to do anything about the expanding police state, but they can still fight back.

What if Americans just dropped out and stopped supporting US wars, debt, and tyranny?

What if everyone became stateless?

https://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/stateless-fear-an-asylum-story/Content?oid=7271045

What if everyone stopped using their name?

What if everyone stopped using banks and started buying gold, bartering, and hiding cash?

What if everyone bought farms using anonymous private shell corporations?

https://boldanddetermined.com/how-own-your-house-car-anonymously/

What if everyone stopped driving cars and getting driver licenses?

What if everyone stopped using phones and the Internet?

What if everyone stopped flying?

What if everyone stopped paying taxes?

What if everyone stopped joining the military?

What if everyone stopped voting?

What if everyone avoided being photographed?

What if everyone took responsibility for themselves and refused to sign up for Obamacare instead of relying on the government?

Maybe the elites want everyone to give up, but at least we won't be paying them.

Think.

Pass the word.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: s3779m on March 04, 2019, 04:46:17 AM
Actually, you were allowed to say it, no one is going to put you in jail. The part you missed was that you offered no solutions. Hell even AOC has offered solutions, not very bright ones, but solutions, which puts you under her bar.
OUCH!!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: tozi on March 04, 2019, 06:42:43 AM
Solutions?

Cut salaries, reduce waste, cut the debt, end welfare, end the wars, end the police state, abolish the EPA, SBA, IRS, NSA, FCC, ATF, DEA, DHS, TSA,
NEA, Amtrack, PBS, and Obamacare.

Allow the private market to replace government services.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dominos-p...02630.html

There are private security companies, roads, railroads, media companies, schools, courts, fire departments, delivery services, and airports.

We didn't need a huge government before and we don't need it now.

Businesses are more efficient than the government because the government pays no price for being wrong.

Allow the states to replace federal services.

Americans should be responsible for themselves.

The government is not your daddy. The government is not your mommy.

https://redguardsaustin.com/t/whatever/new/
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 06:45:50 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 05:36:13 AM


What if everyone stopped using their name?

What if everyone stopped using banks and started buying gold, bartering, and hiding cash?

What if everyone bought farms using anonymous private shell corporations?

https://boldanddetermined.com/how-own-your-house-car-anonymously/

What if everyone stopped driving cars and getting driver licenses?

What if everyone stopped using phones and the Internet?

What if everyone stopped flying?

What if everyone stopped paying taxes?

What if everyone stopped joining the military?

What if everyone stopped voting?

What if everyone avoided being photographed?

What if everyone took responsibility for themselves and refused to sign up for Obamacare instead of relying on the government?

Maybe the elites want everyone to give up, but at least we won't be paying them.

Think.

Pass the word.
Based on the fact that this is dated material, I'm going to assume you've been posting this shit all over the web and wonder why forums keep giving you the boot.
You do know Commiecare was stamped out by Trump, anyone sighing up for it today would be a complete moron.
But much of what you post is moving in the other direction under trump,, slow, but no longer progressing towards Marxist ideals.
The people voted for a man to reverse this idiocy, and even though we live in an entirely different world than we did 30 short years ago, there are certain realities that will not change, such as cameras, they are everywhere, be it a stoplight, or someone face timing their friends, you can not hide from govt facial recognition.

Do you own a cell phone? Then you're feeding the monster and part of the problem.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: tozi on March 04, 2019, 06:53:48 AM
https://www.newsherald.com/news/20170105/stossel-trump-years-likely-more-of-same
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 06:58:58 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 06:53:48 AM
https://www.newsherald.com/news/20170105/stossel-trump-years-likely-more-of-same
That's more than a year old, now John is a Trump supporter.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Bronx on March 04, 2019, 07:21:36 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 04, 2019, 06:58:58 AM
That's more than a year old, now John is a Trump supporter.

It must be very tiresome to track all this bullshit and then have to respond to it to protect CPF from being over run with liberal trolling madness. Hell I'm tired just reading this crap.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 07:57:47 AM
Quote from: Bronx on March 04, 2019, 07:21:36 AM
It must be very tiresome to track all this bullshit and then have to respond to it to protect CPF from being over run with liberal trolling madness. Hell I'm tired just reading this crap.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You got that right friend, it is work, but luckily he's stupid, so that makes my job easier. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Bronx on March 04, 2019, 08:28:44 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 04, 2019, 07:57:47 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You got that right friend, it is work, but luckily he's stupid, so that makes my job easier. :biggrin:

Crap Solar you're giving the moron to much credit by calling him stupid. Hell you just insulted all the stupid people.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
Quote from: Bronx on March 04, 2019, 08:28:44 AM
Crap Solar you're giving the moron to much credit by calling him stupid. Hell you just insulted all the stupid people.
The guy is stuck on stupid. He's never experienced the shit he posts, yet watches youtube videos and thinks that's the way it is everywhere you go.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: taxed on March 04, 2019, 11:00:03 AM
Quote from: snowboard on November 13, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.

Weird.

I just got back from the grocery store.  I didn't see any police.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: taxed on March 04, 2019, 11:02:54 AM
Quote from: tozi on March 04, 2019, 04:35:12 AM
You know that you are in hell when you live in a police state are not allowed to say it.

We don't say it because we don't believe it, therefore we live in a police state?  I'm confused.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Possum on March 04, 2019, 12:10:42 PM
Quote from: taxed on March 04, 2019, 11:00:03 AM
I just got back from the grocery store.  I didn't see any police.
Same here. Me and the misses just got back from tractor supply, H.E.B, and Hobby Lobby. Talked to a few folks we ran into, did not see any censorship.  I had my cz 75 on me, no signs anywhere for me to stay out of there with it, and I have no doubt some of the good folks we talked to also were carrying. None of this sounds or looks like a police state but I'm not as up on that as others are.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: taxed on March 04, 2019, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: s3779m on March 04, 2019, 12:10:42 PM
Same here. Me and the misses just got back from tractor supply, H.E.B, and Hobby Lobby. Talked to a few folks we ran into, did not see any censorship.  I had my cz 75 on me, no signs anywhere for me to stay out of there with it, and I have no doubt some of the good folks we talked to also were carrying. None of this sounds or looks like a police state but I'm not as up on that as others are.

Next time I'm out, I'll be sure to check for them in the trees.  I could have also missed some black helicopters because my hearing is going, but I think this guy needs to move out of the city.
Title: Re: Propaganda part of norm for government
Post by: Solar on March 04, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: taxed on March 04, 2019, 11:02:54 AM
We don't say it because we don't believe it, therefore we live in a police state?  I'm confused.
He's a city boy, no doubt. :biggrin: