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Title: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 16, 2017, 07:44:18 PM
Start at the 1hr. into the video, the first hr. zip.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVVTb3nZssQ
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: ldub23 on February 17, 2017, 04:13:52 PM
I thought Trump did a good  job.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Billy's bayonet on February 17, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
He skinned the media alive, showed them how irrelevant they are becoming.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: je_freedom on February 17, 2017, 05:52:51 PM
On Thursday, Feb. 16, CBS News spent the ENTIRE half hour
(except for the feel good segment at the end)
discussing the press conference.
They did not cover ANY other news!

Today, CBS News spent a few minutes discussing
how Trump supporters are ENERGIZED by the event.
It never occurred to them that anyone would LIKE the performance,
until Rush Limbaugh discussed it:

   The quotes that they put from Trump in this story
   are obviously quotes that they think
   everybody's gonna be appalled and offended and outraged by,
   because they are.
   And what they don't understand is that just what I felt
   people who read this story are gonna be laughing themselves silly
   and they're gonna be applauding
   while CNN thinks that they are doing great damage to Trump.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/17/nobody-in-media-understands-trump-better-than-i-do/

The Donald REALLY played them this time!
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Cryptic Bert on February 17, 2017, 06:08:07 PM
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Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: redbeard on February 17, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on February 17, 2017, 05:52:51 PM
On Thursday, Feb. 16, CBS News spent the ENTIRE half hour
(except for the feel good segment at the end)
discussing the press conference.
They did not cover ANY other news!

Today, CBS News spent a few minutes discussing
how Trump supporters are ENERGIZED by the event.
It never occurred to them that anyone would LIKE the performance,
until Rush Limbaugh discussed it:

   The quotes that they put from Trump in this story
   are obviously quotes that they think
   everybody's gonna be appalled and offended and outraged by,
   because they are.
   And what they don't understand is that just what I felt
   people who read this story are gonna be laughing themselves silly
   and they're gonna be applauding
   while CNN thinks that they are doing great damage to Trump.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/17/nobody-in-media-understands-trump-better-than-i-do/

The Donald REALLY played them this time!
You got to really love these Press conferences! What more fun is watching the MSM in damage control afterward! It's A MSM drumbeat  (TRUMP THE LIAR!!) but you can wash it all away with just one point! Trump is trying to uphold EVERYTHING he promised. The Left keeps Fighting, The Dim's in the senate slow action on his cabinet but Trump keeps plugging away!
Today we got The EPA with Pruitt!
He lost his NSA advisor but look who he is talking to! John Bolton? Would this be a loss?
His immigration EO was shot down by the 9th and he just announced a new one is coming!
So far only his Dept of Labor nominee has been shot down. A shame but not the end of the world he already has a new one on line without the same baggage!
And lets not forget his court appointment!

All the protest, all the crying, name calling, The left melt down but what have they accomplished? Nothing!
The left doesn't know how to handle this guy. He is winning! "BIGLY"
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 17, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: redbeard on February 17, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
You got to really love these Press conferences! What more fun is watching the MSM in damage control afterward! It's A MSM drumbeat  (TRUMP THE LIAR!!) but you can wash it all away with just one point! Trump is trying to uphold EVERYTHING he promised. The Left keeps Fighting, The Dim's in the senate slow action on his cabinet but Trump keeps plugging away!
Today we got The EPA with Pruitt!
He lost his NSA advisor but look who he is talking to! John Bolton? Would this be a loss?
His immigration EO was shot down by the 9th and he just announced a new one is coming!
So far only his Dept of Labor nominee has been shot down. A shame but not the end of the world he already has a new one on line without the same baggage!
And lets not forget his court appointment!

All the protest, all the crying, name calling, The left melt down but what have they accomplished? Nothing!
The left doesn't know how to handle this guy. He is winning! "BIGLY"

Like always, waste a lot of money. 
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: redbeard on February 17, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Quote from: walkstall on February 17, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Like always, waste a lot of money.
Look at what he has done in 1 month Walks! They try to tie his hands but he still manages to get things done even with only half his cabinet in place. imagine what he will do able to do as he consolidates to powers of the office? I hope he stays on the conservative track he following If he does we will see Obama's policies wiped out in very short order.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: topside on February 17, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on February 17, 2017, 05:52:51 PM
On Thursday, Feb. 16, CBS News spent the ENTIRE half hour
(except for the feel good segment at the end)
discussing the press conference.
They did not cover ANY other news!

Today, CBS News spent a few minutes discussing
how Trump supporters are ENERGIZED by the event.
It never occurred to them that anyone would LIKE the performance,
until Rush Limbaugh discussed it:

   The quotes that they put from Trump in this story
   are obviously quotes that they think
   everybody's gonna be appalled and offended and outraged by,
   because they are.
   And what they don't understand is that just what I felt
   people who read this story are gonna be laughing themselves silly
   and they're gonna be applauding
   while CNN thinks that they are doing great damage to Trump.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/02/17/nobody-in-media-understands-trump-better-than-i-do/

The Donald REALLY played them this time!

I thought it was interesting to see the multi-faceted real-time liberal affront on Trump from NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/515608127/transcript-and-analysis-trump-press-conference-on-labor-secretary-russia

I've read that NPR gets about 5.8% of their budget from government funds. However, they are just another liberal outlet. I can't believe that the Reps can't take that line out of the budget with an easy stroke of the pen? Maybe tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 17, 2017, 07:18:03 PM
Quote from: topside on February 17, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
I thought it was interesting to see the multi-faceted real-time liberal affront on Trump from NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/515608127/transcript-and-analysis-trump-press-conference-on-labor-secretary-russia

I've read that NPR gets about 5.8% of their budget from government funds. However, they are just another liberal outlet. I can't believe that the Reps can't take that line out of the budget with an easy stroke of the pen? Maybe tomorrow.


You must remember other places get grant funds from the government and turn around and pass them on to NPR. 
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: supsalemgr on February 18, 2017, 05:07:28 AM
Quote from: redbeard on February 17, 2017, 06:28:22 PM
You got to really love these Press conferences! What more fun is watching the MSM in damage control afterward! It's A MSM drumbeat  (TRUMP THE LIAR!!) but you can wash it all away with just one point! Trump is trying to uphold EVERYTHING he promised. The Left keeps Fighting, The Dim's in the senate slow action on his cabinet but Trump keeps plugging away!
Today we got The EPA with Pruitt!
He lost his NSA advisor but look who he is talking to! John Bolton? Would this be a loss?
His immigration EO was shot down by the 9th and he just announced a new one is coming!
So far only his Dept of Labor nominee has been shot down. A shame but not the end of the world he already has a new one on line without the same baggage!
And lets not forget his court appointment!

All the protest, all the crying, name calling, The left melt down but what have they accomplished? Nothing!
The left doesn't know how to handle this guy. He is winning! "BIGLY"

I watched Washington Week on PBS last night and all the leftist journalist were highly critical of Trump not accomplishing anything legislatively. Not a word about all the EO's undoing Obama's destruction. These people never cease to amaze. One wonders if they actually believe what they are saying or just totally partisan hacks.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Bronx on February 18, 2017, 05:27:23 AM
What the liberal media doesn't understand is that the "silent majority" is still listening and loves what President Trump is doing. The "silent majority" don't partake in polls. They just go out and vote.

Keep the Trump Train rolling president.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2017, 05:27:30 AM
Quote from: topside on February 17, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
I thought it was interesting to see the multi-faceted real-time liberal affront on Trump from NPR:

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/16/515608127/transcript-and-analysis-trump-press-conference-on-labor-secretary-russia

I've read that NPR gets about 5.8% of their budget from government funds. However, they are just another liberal outlet. I can't believe that the Reps can't take that line out of the budget with an easy stroke of the pen? Maybe tomorrow.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I went in, the TV was on, wife had been watching something, I sat down on the bed, saw some "50th Anniversary banner, so I sat and watched a minute trying to figure out what this was, and then she brings on some urinalist and asks what does a trump administration mean in a case like this?
Some Peabody looks at her with near tears in his eyes and mumbles something to the effect, I, I, I can't understand, they can't....what he's doin...this whol...I I I mean...

I laughed my ass off and turned the channel knowing they're experiencing what we had to go through when the Marxists were in power.
Yeah, pretty cool watching the melt down.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: quiller on February 18, 2017, 06:09:08 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 18, 2017, 05:07:28 AM
I watched Washington Week on PBS last night and all the leftist journalist were highly critical of Trump not accomplishing anything legislatively. Not a word about all the EO's undoing Obama's destruction. These people never cease to amaze. One wonders if they actually believe what they are saying or just totally partisan hacks.

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.fotki.com%2F1_p%2Crrrbtfdwgrkgkksxbqfqsbrwqdbw%2Cvi%2Ffwqtkwgdbxrtkwwfdgsxrtrdgrtdw%2F1%2F1595431%2F10201489%2Fthatsjustawful01-vi.png&hash=b5455605c9787d54426436acf3b622b570a64bd2)

Kubler-Ross had five stage of grief, from which liberals are producing epic-length displays of who can manufacture how much caterwauling in the fewest words and most visual means.

This will probably spur a West Wing sequel series --- REGIME has a ring to it --- with Trump having cloven hooves and a tail to go with his fireproof hair. Aaron Sorkin will get busted for cocaine again and the TV networks will simulcast this brave and fully-warranted uprising against Satan Incarnate.

Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: quiller on February 18, 2017, 07:19:21 AM
Behold, the funniest assembly of outraged liberal media types! Savor their angst!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRlow7bxFMM
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Confrontation
Post by: Hoofer on February 18, 2017, 07:26:43 AM
Press Confrontation - keep it up Donald, and call on the reporters who report NEWS instead of Page-of-Democratic-Opinion... ignore the rest, demonize them, call them out, label them 'fake news' - whatever it takes, I'd like to see papers report NEWS FACTS and keep the Opinion Page(s) small and stuffed in the back.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: quiller on February 18, 2017, 07:19:21 AM
Behold, the funniest assembly of outraged liberal media types! Savor their angst!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRlow7bxFMM


As Boo would say.  "This is a fun time."   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2017, 07:40:15 AM
Edit:

One thing has struck me since the lefts slaughter and loss of party, that the 5 stages of Grief no longer apply, that is, where normalcy is concerned.
We know that normalcy doesn't generally apply to the left, they tend to literally unhinge and jam up when things don't go their way.
Point is, the 5 stages need a 1 and one-half for libs, or rather a complete rewrite, maybe a grief tree. Vengeance was never taken into account.
Sure, they hit shock and disbelief, but instantly for many, revenge is the second response, they refuse to think about what happened and why, no critical thought whatsoever, they emotionally react with rage and literally become blinded by the hatred and seek vengeance.

But there is a cure and one needs to heed this warning, the only thing to change their mind is lead poisoning.

1. Denial
1.1/2 REVENGE
2. Anger
Not sure they ever reach 3.
3. Bargaining
Four would easily fit in with 2.
4. Depression
Let's be honest, few of these idiots ever reach 5.
5. Acceptance
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: quiller on February 18, 2017, 08:00:09 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 07:32:38 AM

As Boo would say.  "This is a fun time."   :thumbsup:

Today is 18 February 2017, nearing the two-month point following Hairzilla's victory, and I'm reminded of that time Rudy Giuliani went on Saturday Night Live following the 9/11 tragedy, and assured America that it is now OK to laugh.

Satuday Night Live stopped being funny long ago and Obama's relentless assault against American values left me for one without a shred of humor. None-zilch-nada-nyet.

It will take me a while to see otherwise. It was a relentlessly evil eight years.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
I see more all MSM is in attack mode of Trump, even more so now. 

They and the Dems just keep digging that hole.   :lol:
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: supsalemgr on February 18, 2017, 11:43:22 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 10:41:05 AM
I see more all MSM is in attack mode of Trump, even more so now. 

They and the Dems just keep digging that hole.   :lol:

Trump has figured out all he needs to do to energize the base is jerk the MSM's chain and spur them on to unhinge again.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 12:33:58 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on February 18, 2017, 11:43:22 AM
Trump has figured out all he needs to do to energize the base is jerk the MSM's chain and spur them on to unhinge again.

The MSM is starting to be cheap entertainment.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: topside on February 18, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Quote from: quiller on February 18, 2017, 08:00:09 AM
Today is 18 February 2017, nearing the two-month point following Hairzilla's victory, and I'm reminded of that time Rudy Giuliani went on Saturday Night Live following the 9/11 tragedy, and assured America that it is now OK to laugh.

Satuday Night Live stopped being funny long ago and Obama's relentless assault against American values left me for one without a shred of humor. None-zilch-nada-nyet.

It will take me a while to see otherwise. It was a relentlessly evil eight years.

Well said Quiller. I was upset when BO won the first time, but could almost understand the turn given the limited effectiveness of the Reps during Bush's time in office. Then BO won a second time after such a failed and damaging presidency - I was convinced that we'd found the anti-Christ. When HiLIARy looked like a shoe-in, I was in even deeper despair and was ready for the US democracy to be finished off - for the economic earthquake to occur and for the end to come. Then a miracle happened on election night - it was a miracle. So I am so grateful for a second chance - and hope this administration creates scorched earth under the policies of the previous Obamination that was leading to desolation. I pray that this administration can realize their opportunity. So far, I like what I'm seeing. And am starting to smile a little when the Dems experience being undone.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Solar on February 18, 2017, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: topside on February 18, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Well said Quiller. I was upset when BO won the first time, but could almost understand the turn given the limited effectiveness of the Reps during Bush's time in office. Then BO won a second time after such a failed and damaging presidency - I was convinced that we'd found the anti-Christ. When HiLIARy looked like a shoe-in, I was in even deeper despair and was ready for the US democracy to be finished off - for the economic earthquake to occur and for the end to come. Then a miracle happened on election night - it was a miracle. So I am so grateful for a second chance - and hope this administration creates scorched earth under the policies of the previous Obamination that was leading to desolation. I pray that this administration can realize their opportunity. So far, I like what I'm seeing. And am starting to smile a little when the Dems experience being undone.
Just for accuracy's sake, we are not a Democracy, thank God.
Everyone here knows what a stickler I am when it comes to our Republic.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: taxed on February 18, 2017, 05:35:24 PM
Quote from: topside on February 18, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Well said Quiller. I was upset when BO won the first time, but could almost understand the turn given the limited effectiveness of the Reps during Bush's time in office. Then BO won a second time after such a failed and damaging presidency - I was convinced that we'd found the anti-Christ. When HiLIARy looked like a shoe-in, I was in even deeper despair and was ready for the US democracy to be finished off - for the economic earthquake to occur and for the end to come. Then a miracle happened on election night - it was a miracle. So I am so grateful for a second chance - and hope this administration creates scorched earth under the policies of the previous Obamination that was leading to desolation. I pray that this administration can realize their opportunity. So far, I like what I'm seeing. And am starting to smile a little when the Dems experience being undone.

No!!!!!!!!!!  We are a Republic.  This is step one, young man.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: zewazir on February 18, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
Quote from: topside on February 18, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Well said Quiller. I was upset when BO won the first time, but could almost understand the turn given the limited effectiveness of the Reps during Bush's time in office. Then BO won a second time after such a failed and damaging presidency - I was convinced that we'd found the anti-Christ. When HiLIARy looked like a shoe-in, I was in even deeper despair and was ready for the US democracy to be finished off - for the economic earthquake to occur and for the end to come. Then a miracle happened on election night - it was a miracle. So I am so grateful for a second chance - and hope this administration creates scorched earth under the policies of the previous Obamination that was leading to desolation. I pray that this administration can realize their opportunity. So far, I like what I'm seeing. And am starting to smile a little when the Dems experience being undone.
I know two others already pointed it out, but seriously, if you do not want to come across as a progressive pretending to be conservative, learn deep in your bones what type of government we have - specifically, a constitutional republic. (Say that to yourself every night 20 times before going to sleep: "We are a REPUBLIC!"  :tounge:

The founders most deliberately turned down the idea of democracy, and for very, very good reasons which have not changed one iota since that careful decision was made.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 06:24:18 PM
Topside, look and learn. 

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/republic-vs-democracy/
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: topside on February 18, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: zewazir on February 18, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
I know two others already pointed it out, but seriously, if you do not want to come across as a progressive pretending to be conservative, learn deep in your bones what type of government we have - specifically, a constitutional republic. (Say that to yourself every night 20 times before going to sleep: "We are a REPUBLIC!"  :tounge:

The founders most deliberately turned down the idea of democracy, and for very, very good reasons which have not changed one iota since that careful decision was made.

Well, I'm not young, but haven't been introduced to these ideas properly over my years. I stand corrected and this introduction to the distinction between democracy and republic is both central and critical.

It's actually a great comfort that the guidance of the Constitution and rule of law under limited government is ideally what is handed down and perfected over time. Also a comfort that popular opinion of the masses can't shift that overnight. The main impact of those elected is how they influence these two factors - whether improved or deteriorated. For example, in addition to building our deficit to such an extreme, it's even more critical that BO was rampantly undermining so much as he grew government as fast as he could and in so many ways.

I take it that Rome succeeded in large part because they were a republic. But then failed as they allowed government to swell. God help us as we continue to undermine the basic principles set up in our republic.

It's another topic probably, but how did the Executive Orders slip in. It seems against the ideas of the republic - change things one way or the other with the swipe of a pen by one person. Is it that the EOs were introduced by some trying to undermine the republic and continue to be misused by all involved. Shouldn't that instrument be shut down by our leadership who claim to defend the republic ... not just use it for their own purposes? Don't answer that if you don't want to ... I should do a little digging on that topic.







Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Hoofer on February 19, 2017, 06:16:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 12:33:58 PM
The MSM is starting to be cheap entertainment.   :popcorn:

Friday... I walked into the lobby of a "customer", they had the morning 'Market Gloom 'n Doom News' blaring on the big screen, it was about 11am.
The "Fake News" was the Stock market was falling, leading the way was the Telecoms (of course it got my attention, I've worked for several, for a l-o-n-g time.)   I'm trying *NOT* to pay attention to the "analysis" - which you can imagine, sounded like:

"The bubble has burst", "Air let out of the Trump Bump", "Stock sell off, prices falling:, blah, blah, blah.... kind of tone...(with glee).

It quickly occurred to me, "These people are actually TRYING to create a sell-off panic...", and somehow blame it on Donald Trump...?!?

These Liberals are sick puppies.   You'd have to be sick to remain in that state of denial while the rest of the country is gearing up for prosperity.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: Solar on February 19, 2017, 06:18:21 AM
Quote from: topside on February 18, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
Well, I'm not young, but haven't been introduced to these ideas properly over my years. I stand corrected and this introduction to the distinction between democracy and republic is both central and critical.

It's actually a great comfort that the guidance of the Constitution and rule of law under limited government is ideally what is handed down and perfected over time. Also a comfort that popular opinion of the masses can't shift that overnight. The main impact of those elected is how they influence these two factors - whether improved or deteriorated. For example, in addition to building our deficit to such an extreme, it's even more critical that BO was rampantly undermining so much as he grew government as fast as he could and in so many ways.

I take it that Rome succeeded in large part because they were a republic. But then failed as they allowed government to swell. God help us as we continue to undermine the basic principles set up in our republic.

It's another topic probably, but how did the Executive Orders slip in. It seems against the ideas of the republic - change things one way or the other with the swipe of a pen by one person. Is it that the EOs were introduced by some trying to undermine the republic and continue to be misused by all involved. Shouldn't that instrument be shut down by our leadership who claim to defend the republic ... not just use it for their own purposes? Don't answer that if you don't want to ... I should do a little digging on that topic.
Not only did the Founders recognize Democracy for the cancer it is, they specifically avoided using it in any single document related to our Constitution.
This is a great video explaining why we're not a Democracy, take the moment to watch.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/library/re-republic-vs-democracy/

As to the EO's, don't forget, there are Marxists within the GOP that actually like what he did, tried to use it to their advantage.
It's for this reason TEA is Hell bent on stealing the GOP from these scum and making it an actual conservative party, something it has never been in its entire history.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: quiller on February 19, 2017, 06:24:53 AM
Quote from: walkstall on February 18, 2017, 12:33:58 PM
The MSM is starting to be cheap entertainment.   :popcorn:

I started back in the mid-60s. It's been dark-humor giggles ever since.

*snork!*
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: zewazir on February 19, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
Quote from: topside on February 18, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
snip

...It's another topic probably, but how did the Executive Orders slip in. It seems against the ideas of the republic - change things one way or the other with the swipe of a pen by one person. Is it that the EOs were introduced by some trying to undermine the republic and continue to be misused by all involved. Shouldn't that instrument be shut down by our leadership who claim to defend the republic ... not just use it for their own purposes? Don't answer that if you don't want to ... I should do a little digging on that topic.
Executive orders have become a hot topic in the last decade or so.  But the thing is, EOs have technically existed from day one. The central job of the executive branch of government is to enforce the laws passed by congress. So, for example, congress passes a law which restricts the use of left handed blivets. In the law, there is a section which places the FBI in charge of making sure all left handed blivets are used accoridng to the safety protocols outlined in the law. So now it is up to the President to tell the FBI how he wants them to distribute their resources in order to comply with the enforcement part of that law. That set of instructions given the FBI from the President (usually routed through the appropriate cabinet member) are executive orders. In fact, technically, any time the president tells a staff member, cabinet head, or other person working under the executive department, to do something, he is issuing and executive order. Some orders, due to their complexity or importance, will be carefully drafted in proper language by the president's legal staff and then signed for verification. Those orders are the ones the media loves to play "misinformation week" with. (with the type of misinformation distributed depending on whether the order is good for, or contrary to their agenda....)

The vast majority of EOs (or XOs as some people use) are perfectly legitimate: a redistribution of manpower, authority to purchase materials as outlined in the relevant law, etc.  Even the O, for all his tendency to act more like an emperor than a president isues far, far more legitimate EOs and otherwise.

Where EOs run off the track intended for their use is when an EO issues an order to a federal agency that goes beyond any established law.  When O ordered the EPA to issue new regulations on use of coal in energy production, he was usurping power from the congress by bypassing the laws the EPA is working under. Under the environmental law, as written, congress did allow the EPA authority to issue such regulations as it needed to address the law. (Meaning congress got lazy and unconstitutionally handed off part of their own authority to the executive branch.)  The O used that (unconstitutional) loophole to attack the use of coal in a way that would never have flown if it had to go through congress. When the O used EOs to alter the deadlines for certain aspects of the ACA, he was in direct violation of the very law he championed, as well as the constitution. But, of course, the media, congress, and many others turned a blind eye to that particular fact because they knew if the deadlines were enforced as written, O-care would have blown up before the O could secure his second term. Another instance of misuse of EO's came when the O decided to issue his bathroom mandate to public schools.  WAY over the line with that one (even while the media praised it and didn't bother to question the level of authority being usurped.) And I'll just mention in passing his use of EOs to refuse to enforce immigration law.

The kinds of actions taken by "I have a pen!" Barrack Hussein Obama - tyrant wannabe - have given EOs a black eye as no president preceding him every dreamed of doing.  But we need to keep in mind that the president could literally do nothing if he could not issue ANY EOs.

Bottom line: EOs are simply the label placed on actions taken by the President when he issues commands to his staff in order to carry out the functions of the executive branch. The vast majority of EOs issued, even by progs, are perfectly legitimate.  The problem arises when an EO issued changes any aspect of the law, or adds authority to the law, or refuses to enforce the law. Then they are bypassing the role of Congress, which is, by definition, unconstitutional.
Title: Re: President Trump Holds a Press Conference
Post by: topside on February 19, 2017, 04:39:57 PM
Quote from: zewazir on February 19, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
Executive orders have become a hot topic in the last decade or so.  But the thing is ...

Thank you for this explanation.