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A handful of conservatives staved it off.  The Marxists and President Trump are now calling for a full repeal and will deal with a replacement later.

http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2017/07/17/breaking-mitch-mcconnell-says-forget-replacing-obamacare-lets-go-plan/

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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2017, 08:26:25 PM »
I have been wary about full repeal without a replacement but I was overthinking the issue. Repeal it, let the insurance companies offer affordable plans. Pass a bill letting insurance companies sell plans in other states. Let the states set up high risk pools.

Go from there.

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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 03:36:53 AM »
Obamacare remains in place. Repeal is dead for the time being.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The latest GOP effort to repeal and replace "Obamacare" was fatally wounded in the Senate Monday night when two more Republican senators announced their opposition to legislation strongly backed by President Donald Trump.

The announcements from Sens. Mike Lee of Utah and Jerry Moran of Kansas left the Republican Party's long-promised efforts to get rid of President Barack Obama's health care legislation reeling. Next steps, if any, were not immediately clear.

Lee and Moran both said they could not support Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's legislation in its current form. They joined GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Rand Paul of Kentucky, both of whom announced their opposition right after McConnell released the bill last Thursday.

McConnell is now at least two votes short in the closely divided Senate and may have to go back to the drawing board or even begin to negotiate with Democrats, a prospect he's threatened but resisted so far.

McConnell's bill "fails to repeal the Affordable Care Act or address healthcare's rising costs. For the same reasons I could not support the previous version of this bill, I cannot support this one," said Moran.

It was the second straight failure for McConnell, who had to cancel a vote on an earlier version of the bill last month when defeat became inevitable. 

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDefault/*/Article_2017-07-17-APFN-US--Congress-Health%20Overhaul/id-2054d84aa147460c80d17025a79dfd32



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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 04:45:04 AM »
Exactly what I hoping for, just a full repeal.   no more coverage requirements, and open up things up, deregulate it so insurance companies can cross state lines easily.  Those who want insurance can pay for it, those who don't fine, those who can't, we already have plenty of government safety nets.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 05:07:40 AM »
We have been calling for repeal since Jan. 20th. Yes, even before - during the reign of BO. But those votes were infeasible; just for show.

The call for repeal by pubs is just wishful thinking to recover the fact they've failed to make Trump's HC promise happen.

The RINO's don't understand why they are there - they're too weak to unite behind the right approach from principles of our republic. 

The time and dollars that have been wasted talking and talking and talking so far on HC makes me sick. At least we're going nowhere instead of the wrong direction. I guess that's a net positive over the BO regime.

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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 06:38:40 AM »
We have been calling for repeal since Jan. 20th. Yes, even before - during the reign of BO. But those votes were infeasible; just for show.

The call for repeal by pubs is just wishful thinking to recover the fact they've failed to make Trump's HC promise happen.

The RINO's don't understand why they are there - they're too weak to unite behind the right approach from principles of our republic. 

The time and dollars that have been wasted talking and talking and talking so far on HC makes me sick. At least we're going nowhere instead of the wrong direction. I guess that's a net positive over the BO regime.
This is a win, the RINO conceded to the Conservative faction,  they simply no longer have the pull they did in the past.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 11:13:18 AM »
We have been calling for repeal since Jan. 20th. Yes, even before - during the reign of BO. But those votes were infeasible; just for show.

The call for repeal by pubs is just wishful thinking to recover the fact they've failed to make Trump's HC promise happen.

The RINO's don't understand why they are there - they're too weak to unite behind the right approach from principles of our republic. 

The time and dollars that have been wasted talking and talking and talking so far on HC makes me sick. At least we're going nowhere instead of the wrong direction. I guess that's a net positive over the BO regime.

Well ... that didn't take long.

http://therightscoop.com/of-course-third-senator-says-she-wont-allow-vote-on-repeal-bill-to-proceed/


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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 11:57:19 AM »
Well ... that didn't take long.

http://therightscoop.com/of-course-third-senator-says-she-wont-allow-vote-on-repeal-bill-to-proceed/

Full repeal is dead in the water.  The only thing to do now is to allow Bammycare to completely implode.  Will the free marketplace take affect then or will the GOP finally submit the bill that was passed and Bammy vetoed?  Either way, the GOP has to do something to save face; otherwise they are staring defeat in 2018 right in the eyes.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 12:16:14 PM »
This whole deal shows just how weak and spineless GOPe is, and especially those in the senate. These clowns had no problem with repeal as long as Obama was around to protect their asses. I hope this convinces more conservatives to stand up and vote these phonies out.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 01:04:08 PM »
Full repeal is dead in the water.  The only thing to do now is to allow Bammycare to completely implode.  Will the free marketplace take affect then or will the GOP finally submit the bill that was passed and Bammy vetoed?  Either way, the GOP has to do something to save face; otherwise they are staring defeat in 2018 right in the eyes.
This vote proved they know they're now in serious trouble and will lose power in 2018.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 01:33:18 PM »
This vote proved they know they're now in serious trouble and will lose power in 2018.
Each successive midterm has lessened the Establishments death grip on Congress, and 2018 will be the rope that hangs them.

As I remember right since b o became president, his party has lost 63
House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.  And they say TEA is dead.   :lol:
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 03:45:02 PM »
As I remember right since b o became president, his party has lost 63
House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.  And they say TEA is dead.   :lol:

Tea isn't dead. It will never be dead as long as those who hold true to the republic are around. Tea is built of the stuff our nation was founded on. We will go to our graves defending what we believe - and the leftists hope we go sooner rather than later.

The question is whether Tea can become prominent enough to turn the leftist mess around. So far, I'm not seeing any signs of life. Tea is a minority that has had some success at stopping some irresponsible actions, e.g., HC replace shut down, but is ineffective / too weak to push forward changes that overcome the Dim / RINO leftists agenda (e.g., straight repeal - get govt. out of HC and remove the entitlement). 

So Tea shut down the govt. HC replace initiative. Some say it will cost us the 2018 election. I'm not so certain, but I do know this - once you start compromising on the constitution and republic values, then you're contributing to the Marxist agenda and have lost your value. Tea should do what is right by our republic and constitution despite the consequences in the popular sector. I sure wish our congress would get the message.


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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 04:57:43 PM »
Tea isn't dead. It will never be dead as long as those who hold true to the republic are around. Tea is built of the stuff our nation was founded on. We will go to our graves defending what we believe - and the leftists hope we go sooner rather than later.

The question is whether Tea can become prominent enough to turn the leftist mess around. So far, I'm not seeing any signs of life. Tea is a minority that has had some success at stopping some irresponsible actions, e.g., HC replace shut down, but is ineffective / too weak to push forward changes that overcome the Dim / RINO leftists agenda (e.g., straight repeal - get govt. out of HC and remove the entitlement). 

So Tea shut down the govt. HC replace initiative. Some say it will cost us the 2018 election. I'm not so certain, but I do know this - once you start compromising on the constitution and republic values, then you're contributing to the Marxist agenda and have lost your value. Tea should do what is right by our republic and constitution despite the consequences in the popular sector. I sure wish our congress would get the message.
It was sarcasm, the leftist media told us at least three times a week that TEA was dead, so it became an on going joke. :biggrin:
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 05:09:59 PM »
Tea isn't dead. It will never be dead as long as those who hold true to the republic are around. Tea is built of the stuff our nation was founded on. We will go to our graves defending what we believe - and the leftists hope we go sooner rather than later.
He was being sarcastic... but you just went up a few notches in my book...

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The question is whether Tea can become prominent enough to turn the leftist mess around. So far, I'm not seeing any signs of life. Tea is a minority that has had some success at stopping some irresponsible actions, e.g., HC replace shut down, but is ineffective / too weak to push forward changes that overcome the Dim / RINO leftists agenda (e.g., straight repeal - get govt. out of HC and remove the entitlement).
It can.  TEA brings forth something very potent: thinking, experience, and knowledge.  Just little doses of this eradicate large swathes of liberalism.

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So Tea shut down the govt. HC replace initiative. Some say it will cost us the 2018 election. I'm not so certain, but I do know this - once you start compromising on the constitution and republic values, then you're contributing to the Marxist agenda and have lost your value. Tea should do what is right by our republic and constitution despite the consequences in the popular sector. I sure wish our congress would get the message.
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Re: President Trump and Marxist McConnell call for full repeal!
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 05:54:00 PM »
This vote proved they know they're now in serious trouble and will lose power in 2018.
Each successive midterm has lessened the Establishments death grip on Congress, and 2018 will be the rope that hangs them.

* No repeal of Obamacare
* No tax cut -or- tax simplification
* No repatriation because no business tax cut.

= no more Republican majority.  They are flat out blowing this opportunity, and guaranteeing Trump won't even consider a 2020 run.
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